shubham yadav, 29 Mar 2014Antutu is not like other benchmarks. It's a complete benchmark on which we can't compare a sin... moreIts just your frequent used CRAP which ignites me!
Samsung's strategy in incorporating a high end CPU and established GPU combination is POWER SAVING! Its a mobile device after all remember!
Extensive heating can deteriorate components had it been high end CPU and GPU combination. Since the CPU is Samsung proprietary hence being cheap, they are free to modify it Multicore, Core share whatever strategy to maintain a uniform performance. Supported by a good GPU(other OEM) to augment performance and conserve battery to save CPUs running at full throttle continuously! Its a well designed architecture and have been proven so!
No grudges! Peace. Having a variety to choose is best for us as customers with no monopoly! I don't foresee adreno GPUs being overclocked as they get heated up pretty much, and I won't as a customer prefer a 4hr battery Phone though a gamers dream device! Indeed a new variant much smaller surpassing 19nm, more powerful yet battery friendly in near future!
Samsung Exynos 5 octacore's main drawback has been the memory dump which has to be shared and updated concurrently, which slow's the switching hence currently core migration wasn't feasible in S4!
AnonD-99237, 29 Mar 2014So that too is crap for you! All technology not to your liking is crap! the Antutu benchmark i... moreAntutu is not like other benchmarks. It's a complete benchmark on which we can't compare a single aspect of an SoC. I would like to go to geekbench for CPU comparison, GFXBench or 3DMark for GPU comparison etc. So to compare two GPU, you'll look at GPU specific benchmarks. Also it's a well known fact that snapdragon 800 note 3 is cheating in antutu.
I know a lot about CPU and GPU architectures and I know that 1.9 GHz quad core cortex A15 beats 2.3 GHz krait 400 but we're talking about GPU's here. So go to GFXBench site and see for yourselves. Mali T628 is nothing compared to adreno 330.
And the worst part is, S5 exynos is shipping with the same GPU, Mali T628 and when it goes against an even more overclocked version of adreno 330, it has no chance. adreno will be like 250% for it. There will be no comparison.
What's a great cpu without a strong GPU. And powerful games are coming. Asphalt 8 gives adreno 320 a hard time.
I own an exynos and i can say that it was most probably the last exynos version that was better than snapdragon. Exynos is better in CPU but now it lags much in gPU.
Don't lose your temper. Comment coolly.
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Please advice me. Should I buy Galaxy S4 or Note 3 Neo. I am confusing between them
shubham yadav, 29 Mar 2014antutu isn't a benchmark. its crap. go to gfxbench and see results for yourselves. it's 30-40 ... moreSo that too is crap for you! All technology not to your liking is crap! the Antutu benchmark is similar to al synthetic benchmarks which can be manipulated! You have no idea about cpu architectures and since you cannot understand many and have no XDA developer naive reviewer for some those too are crap. Crap all! Your posts are as useless as the word crap itself!
Ravi, 29 Mar 2014Hi
I am planning to buy a phone tomorrow and i am confused between S4 and nexus 5. Personall... moreDid you look at S4 or S4 mini. The S4 screen is 4.99 inch and nexus 5 is 4.95 inch. They both feel having same screen size. Just put them side by side.
Unless you are a hardcore gamer, buy S4. It's better.
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AnonD-99237, 29 Mar 2014@shubham yadav. consider the benchmarks at official site! http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?... moreantutu isn't a benchmark. its crap. go to gfxbench and see results for yourselves. it's 30-40 percent below adreno 330
I am planning to buy a phone tomorrow and i am confused between S4 and nexus 5. Personally i felt s4 screen is bit smaller but it says its 5". So i am confused , kindly provide your suggestions.
All suggestions are highly appreciated.
AnonD-99237, 29 Mar 2014Bro without proper references (technical) your views are utterly baseless. Chip issue? define ... more@shubham yadav. consider the benchmarks at official site!
shubham yadav, 29 Mar 2014Mali-T628 is not crappy. It's just too weak as compared to adreno 330. powervr-sgx544mp3 is sl... moreBro without proper references (technical) your views are utterly baseless. Chip issue? define it!
The Mali t-628 outperforms the adreno 320 and is about 10% slower than the adreno 330. 10 percent slower than 330 adreno, OpenGL ES 3.0 support,better thermal handling ensuring no performance twitches with stable frequency cycles. Calling it crap is toooooo harsh!
AnonD-99237, 29 Mar 2014How did you base Samsung GPUs crappy? Elaborate with references.
Core migration NOT POSSIBL... moreMali-T628 is not crappy. It's just too weak as compared to adreno 330. powervr-sgx544mp3 is slightly powerful than adreno 320 but that is the reason i bought an i9500. After S4, note 3 and s5 exynos versions are weaker than snapdragon in gpu. Let's take gfxbench 3.0. Mali-t628 scores 6 fps where adreno 330 gets 9-10 fps. So there's a lot of difference.
And the S5 gpu will score even more 12 fps as it's even more overclocked adreno 330. And tegra K1 is 2-3 times more powerful gpu than adreno 330. So yes, gpu in exynos are crap.
For the cluster migration. There is a long thread on /xda by adreilux(a renowned dev) on this. There is a chip level defect in s4 and note3 chips that make it impossible to do core migration. However, S5 can do core as well as HMP(heterogenous Mlulti Processing) that can even involve all 8 cores if needed.
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shubham yadav, 29 Mar 2014No, core migration can't happen in 5410 or 5420 due to chip-level defects. So only cluster mig... moreHow did you base Samsung GPUs crappy? Elaborate with references.
Core migration NOT POSSIBLE at all? Please verify this with references too.
PowerVR SGX544MP3 (A crap? LOL)... and Mali-T628 MP6 is stated to perform twice faster, stop spreading baseless POV!
AnonD-99237, 29 Mar 2014Quoted from a educated poster at XDA-Developer:
All of Qualcomm's chips through S-800 are b... moreNo, core migration can't happen in 5410 or 5420 due to chip-level defects. So only cluster migration for us. But only 1.6 quad core exynos can smoke 2470 in geekbench 3. This is very close to snapdragon 800 score. Imagine what 2.1 Ghz HMP variant of s5 will do. It'll probably cross 4k which'll make it unbeatable.
However, the exynos versions come with crappy GPUs. The exynos note 3 was not even close in gaming with snapdragon one. So unless samsung equips them with proper GPU, i won't buy an exynos.
Exynos new gen (Gen 5) Chiipsets are more capable in thermal handling. They work full frequency unaffected by high temperature (wiki Dynamic frequency scaling (also known as CPU throttling)). Quoted(http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=61267&page=30):
"getting to my point I have saw the highest thermal handling on the latest Exynos 5 chipset vs any previous qualcomm offering. My qualcomm GS3 and a friends GS4 qualcomm destabilize on high mhz or even stock 1890 if over 90+c which unless I go beyond the power supply of the battery has not been true on this 5410.
Thus capable of playing extended sessions of high end gaming lagless and no hiccups!Consider the extreme temperatures we bear in Summers and Winters in South Asia! Exynos is for us!
I updated my software my phone 4.3 to 4.4 kit kat now my phone hanging what I do?
Quoted from a educated poster at XDA-Developer:
All of Qualcomm's chips through S-800 are based on five year old ARM designs. A lot has changed in five years. So while it's less "safe," I'd pick big.LITTLE over an existing Qualcomm chip solely because it represents the future. And in being the first to release it, Samsung's going to devote a lot of attention to perfecting it. As will the other 17 licensees. S-600 is what it is and its day in the sun will be brief.
There are three ways of transferring load from LITTLE (low frequency CPUs) to BIG,
1. Cluster-migration: 4 A7 or 4 A15 and not any other combinations.
2. Core-migration: Up to 4 cores working together with every combination possible.
3. Multi-Processing: All 8 cores can work together.
Samsung has categorically stated that the new implementation in S5 has the Core-migration variant working perfectly well!Multi-core processing is not feasible in mobile devices owing to excessive battery drain. Hopefully the improved implementation may be brought to S4 I9500.
shoaib, 28 Mar 2014salam dear alls.
i am confused about to buy galaxy s4 and note 2 .
please tell me which ph... moreS4 is better because camera 13 mp in note two 8 mp.processer also more powerful than note 2 good and more camera functions looking more beautiful than. Note 2. S4 have a full hd display.Only 1 disadvantage that is battery
S4: 2600 mah
Note 2 : 3100 mah