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why SE copy N3230 design? this phone function not as good as N92 and no WIFI too...but good in camera...no walkman too
symbian is a type of OS, not a type of phone.
and there are smart phones with windows OS.
k800 shameful????????? shameful???? now thats something sony ericsson would not want to hear.
K800.. shameful.. Lousy video, even my N70 is better.. so wad if cameras better? lose out evrything compared with N80.. Worse of all, no walkman, and dude, this Phone is BIG!
This phone is huge.. N80 is more portable though
the design of this model is copied from nokia 3230! oh well, i think SE should hire more creative designers so they'll not let down SE fans! for sure, its joystick may still become very annoying, sensitive, easily get loose and result into very bad navigation like the one's found on K750 unlike 3230's joystick for me is one of the best joystick I ever tried and even GSMarena confirmed it! nice work on camera though (K800)..
to those who criticize k800 think befor you say...
you are comparing n80 with k800... haha you like symbian? fine go for it so you have many many bugs! also viruses come up to destroy the unit. n80 has no AF but macro, k800 has all the n80 camera lacks so what if n80 has CIF video? it still can't be a substitute for a real camera made by sony and for those cannon lovers, does cannon produced a 10mp camera like the sony have? i know this is not a megapixel competition but if you are one of the perfectionist trying to criticize SE's technology you are stupid! don't go to this link to disappoint people because the phone is coming soon... we just wait for the 3mp camera test for the two and let's take a deep look if nokia n80 will beat SE k800
remember that nokia has anything to be criticized with: buggy symbian handsets, poor,blurry cameras,expensive high-end,low-end phones, stability of the hardwares etc. so think of it... your criticisms must be delivered to nokia's link not to SE!
all in all SE Still Rocks
kirk... if you can mention any parts of K800 that is stolen from 3230, then it will be correct ^_^ which i think is impossible haha.. how old are you?
this is gonna be worth a fortune. lol. just kidding. can't wait for this to be released. but it looks ugly. anyway, still love it. haha
N80= symbian, CIF video, WIFI..
Sigh to K800.. SHameful SE, used a second hand hardware stolen from 3230..
Thanks Adrian for your info on video shooting speed.
I wish SonyEricsson launches with 30 fps
video shoot speed :-|
Else I may to wait or go in for the bulky
well.. thanks for telling me that Lami. Well, actually i didn't go and search about PDA things, that is just based on my personal opinion, because so far what i've seen normally is that smarphone using Symbian OS with watever version they have and i dun see any smartphone that using Windows media OS.. so.. if i got it wrong.. hehe... sowy... Probably you can check it out just from looking at specs though (or maybe you can go and check what does symbian means, instead of looking for what PDA means, probably that might help)--->i know one website that tells about symbian http://www.symbian.com/technology/symbos-v91-det.html (i haven't read the whole chapter, too complicated for me, so could you please help me to check it out?)
id like to add my opinion into the smartphone/pda discussion.
it was my impression that both are defined by size and function.
operating system does not make a difference.
a pda generally entails a touch screen, with a fairly sophisticated OS. originally, pda's never had voip/call abilities, however as technology has moved forward, it is seen more and more often.
a pda was designed to be a PDA first, and was given a secondary cellular function. a smartphone however, evolved the opposite way. it was designed as a phone first, with pda capabilities.
the disticntion between these to are becoming increasingly vague simply because pda's and phones are on an inevitable crash course. either pda's will be wiped out, or they will be fully merged. something which we are seeing today. the pda market was on a massive decline (seen by sony leaving the discontinuing the clie line), however, recent trends are moving in favor of the pda once again (who knows for how long).
i would have difficulty categorizing the n80 as a smartphone due to the small screen, and the lack of a touch screen.