And one more "little thing" in the image dept: k800 has image stabilizer (first phone to have it), not to mention the auto-focus (n80 - yet no autofocus nokia??? lol)and macro mode
He just said the KEY word here. "diferent groups of people".
That's right, the N80 and the K800 are targeted at different market segments, each with a superiority in one feild over the other. It's the people's choice to decide which complements thier needs.
Nokia fans will always be Nokia fans, and SE fans will always be SE fans. Why did this ever become a issue of argument over two hadsets made by either or, that are both just as great.
Just drop it, lets have more constructive, factuale and specific discussions here we can all learn from let it be Nokia or SE or anything else. No need to bash, in the end you gonan buy what you gonan buy whether or not is being said here immiturely.
hey *oth phones are good in their own places i mean the k800 and the n80. The n80 is better for more serious users as it has much better third party applications as it is based on symbian OS which in my opinion is the best OS for SMART phones. On the other hand k800 is also good as it is compact and has better entertainment features for eg. the camera and the mp3 player etc. so i think a comparison of both the phones isnt right as they r both targeted at different groups of ppl so chill out guys and no need to fight.Although i would prefer an n80 cuz of larger screen,faster processor,more compatibility and cuz of the fact that i do a lot of browsing on my phone and browsing is a lot more fun on symbians rather than java phones.cuz although opera mini is quite good but it reduces the quality of the pics to a sucky level which is not watchable
FYI my nephew has a motorola camera phone too and he dropped it more than 10 times and the camera is still working unlike with crap Sony Ericsson's durability, fugly YUCK! how can u say durability is "nonsense" ur a weirdo,u know y? do u mean ur willing to sacrifice durability and other standard phone features just to have a sub standard 3.2mpx camera with auto-focus?!?! then u really need to seek help with a doctor, a psychologist!
and how can u say:
"(for the record K800 has enhanced body structure, it will survive much more than the average mobiles)"
have u tried the K800 even if its not out yet? u should say that only if u tested and had that model for some time then u can judge about its durability (like my terrible experience about SE's durability, OMG, it SUCKS!) SE current superiority? this model doesn't even have WLAn, UpnP, only has QVGA and not Symbian OS and only has QCIF video capture then u call it superior? ur nuts! i think ur d biased one! "SE came up with some better" read the specs of N80 and K800 then u'll know what ur talking about, everybody knows for a fact that K800 is a absolutely INFERIOR to N80! btw, fix ur grammar! SE fans r just insecure bcoz their beloved brand can't catch up with the no. 1 handset maker NOKIA! that's a fact no one can change it!
United Nokia fans,
for the record im not a Nokia fan,
i change brand and model twice a year
and i respect all the brands.
U dont have to loose ur temper and insult everybody if ur favourite company gets onwed...
3mp-> so what?->tell that to the N80 praisers, half of the forum is full with them...
About the walkman function,
the official site says flight mode
and the reviews i red report it really has it, besides my remark was ironic, thats why i added a smily, i m sure some time SE will lounch a W-type of K800,
what a constructive arguementation u made there!!
MS i partially agree, but SE has no choice really, they have to support Sony's memory sticks, they dont manufacture them,
Neither Nokia makes SD, they just copy paste them,the entirnal memory though its a nother thing
Wlan?? i do have Wlan in my laptop and might have the change to use it, but the great majority of users sould be more than pleased with bluetooth 2 for mobile2mobile comunication/share and USB 2 on package for PC, its just a new need Nokia wnat to create for comercial/profit reasons.
I didnt say Symbian is for newbiew on the contrary its tooooo complicated for newbies,
Java is the official language of mobiles,
its easy to use, much more stable/bugs, cheaper(all the mobiles can have it => no compatiblity problems or extra cost problems)
Java can handle every need of the average user,
opera broswers,word readers,Nes emulators etc
Again that finished N80?
if Cam+compact is important even LG can own it,
if features many many others,
the N80 was popular for a certain reason and u know that...
and it got owned home on its strenghs points
almost perfect function...
but the design not so nice...
in K series, oni k750 hz a nice design...
if k800 function plus k750 design...
i will buy it bcoz no reason 2 reject...
too big..looks awful lets hope theyre better made than the k750i which was rubbish software....
but thats just my opinion..lol
Again and again being a hardcore Nokia repeating the same nonsenve of durabilty,no phone can survive a crash unless its made for this,
u cant hate an entire brand because ur nephew dropped anad broke one of their phones, thats absurd do u think the N90 would have survived, has that brick a better quality? (for the record K800 has enhanced body structure, it will survive much more than the average mobiles)
Again and again u and the rest of the hardcore biased Nokia fans were attacking to the SE current superiority on the market and SE permanent yech superiority praising Nokia for the features of their future models copmaring them to the current SE and Samsung handsets, esp the basic arguementation for the N80 was its superior emp cam and compact size, well now SE came up with some better and u decided to change ur strategy and aproach to the matter, if u want features go get a SE M600
I dunno much about durability here with camera cells being droped or what not, but i have to say, my friends are SE loyalists and they quality of the cam i must admit is superb. My friend has the K750i and the picture is really amazing, i don't doubt it would be the same if not better on the one! Although i wouldn't get the K790 nor the K800 due to my own personal choice of priorities on a cell phone w/ camera, it is with no doubt that this has great camera quality and a great featured cell phone.
of course i know that no phone model has everything latest on it, my point there is just to inform Vishal that K800 absolutely does not have "everything latest" compared with other models such as N80, sharp LG KG920, panasonic or even samsung in their respective new technologies i've mentioned. but i don't think SE kept the dimensions of k800 small coz its definitely bigger than its predecessors except W900. K800 is one of the most complete phones but its relatively not as complete as N80! about quality, i doubt it, u know y? i gave my nephew a sony ericsson phone but unfortunately when he dropped it once, the autofocus went NUTS! is that what u call QUALITY??? i'll never buy SE phones ever again even they put 8mpx on it (besides sony cybershot digicams aren't really that good, actually panasonic is better!) unless they can make it more durable like nokia!
That's amazing how fast these sony ericsson tandem is working. 3.2 mp camera phones is nothing suprising for korean or japanese markets, but, I am afraid, even Nokia has to agree that this is pretty impressive for Europe. I have always been committed Nokia fan, but I have to admit SE is doing really great job with the latest phones both in terms of design and functionality. What really makes difference is the price: I do understand that Nokia has more than 30% share of the world mobile market, but my understanding based on the latest trends is that that ratio may be changing very substantially and we may be facing 2008/2009 with new world mobile leader. Nokia should think of this and certainly change either its pricing policy or the quality (making it either absolutely exclusive or hi-tech) and speed of distribution of new products. God bless competition :)
this is a good product of sonyericsson, but watch out SE!! the noks will launch a new model tha exactly the same facility of this one..so happy confusing gank.
no EDGE inside?? come on, i think this product will be a hit maker of SE, but i suggest u to buy nokia 6233, its much2 better, or u can think about the K790, much reasonable price pal...
K800 and Z710 are pretty similar phones, we have to wait for their appereance in the market to make any solid conclusions.
this phone will come out in about 2-4 months
one of the most fututristic designs looks retro?!?
everybody has the right to keep his own opinion...
but u cant possibly have any idea about the resolution, dont ensist to find any flaws there, try harder elsewhere...
this is the walkman edition;-)
u cant be serius, how many previus Sony models had:
Xenon flash, image stabilizer, 16x digital zoom, auto red eye reduction etc etc
this device sould be on par with Sony cybershot cams, do u know what this means?
everything is improvved ni this phone comparing to the previus one, sound,screen,cam,OS EVERYTHING,
Siemens still copy Nokias and they came up with a new series after the new fusion,
wich financed them,
they wont last much.
there is no phone in the market having EVERYTHING latest on it,
K800 is one of the most complete phones over there though, destined to fill most of the ppls basic needs, kee[ing the small size,
great quality, easy use etc etc
if u r willing to carru a brick around,
just to have a very exotic feature (like DVB-H, or windows mobile, WLAN touchscreen, qwerty etc etc) then u only are pleased with a certain handset (how many phones in the market have those features?),
this phone isnt a super speliazed handset,
its designed for everyday use, it has much more than the average user would wish
and is destined to become a best seller,
it will compete phones like Nokia6233, N80,Samsung Z710,Sharp 904 etc etc
Yes! This phone is 10000% better than Samsung Z710.. Samsung Z710 is Better than SE K610.. K800I will the be the phone of the year i guess.. but i believe once this K800I is out haha.. guess wat? A new WalkMan Phone With or Almost Equal features & abilities of this phone maybe not as good but still good haha.. but i will buy K800I definately no matter if a new walkman phone which is almost the same as this haha..
I only want to say that I'm waiting for this phone and don/t try to compare it with other phones because is impossible to get an absolutely advantage over it
Hope this phone come out within 2months.. so i can buy it use it love it woot! this phone is my last and final phone i gonna buy.. yeppie!
This phone looks way too retro big mistake sony, it looks to be going back to the t610 and t630 designs which is a negative. Also i bet the video recording is still a poor 176x144 pixel which is unacceptable samsung e720 is still the best mobile phone for video recording offering 352x262.