No point arguing over nokia and sony ericsson comparison. Nokia users must agree that in terms of stability, display (even outperforms the 16 million of nokia) and software sony outperforms. Being a faithful user of nokia phones earlier I found what I was missing when I switched to SE. Nokia all hype no performance!!
SE and HTC merger - rumor or not?
Total user opinions: 7236
WOW!, K850i must be popular.
N95 8GB's forum only has 4,236 total user opinions.
N82's is about the same.
K850i user opinions is 7,236 !!!
they arent nokia biased, theya re just like me, cannot think of any reason why sony erricson is better
and dani? wtf?
the camera stability is far superior to the k850 because the shutter speed is so much quicker!
everything the n95 does, it does better than the k850 (except looks) so you're just shooting yourself in the foot.
this is meant to be a camera phone, yet the n95 has more camera features than the k850.
end of story.
sniper i do like you for some reason cos ur the only person around here who has a personality. we could all be mistaken for raging robots :D
This is the N95 Explained, its not something special, and it cant replace Standalone Devices, its just a Hype
I agree that n95 does kind of integrate a lot of things into 1 device but my problem is its not superior in any feature.
gps is not the best of its kind
camera isnt the best - omg stabilityand flash is bad
battery life isnt the best still
video capture isnt the best
OS still slow even after the upgrade.
the sliding mechanism is unreliable
document viewer and editor isnt the best too
the good bits like 8gb memory, large and quality display size were there to compensate for its lack of superiority but that wouldnt do for me.
N95 is like:
" jack of all trades - a master of none "
nick, 08 Jun 2008yeah sorry geotagging is what i meant and if the sony blogging thing is true then i accept tha... moreits just a matter of "wear my shoes" nick.
N95 is not the best - that's what my shoes are telling me.
And having a lot of features doesn't mean being the best.
"Having a bite of everything doesn't make your belly fat"
It's already a lesson in life. Fancying the things that your eyes can see (but your mind cannot)is what drives a person to like something, and leads to demise.
think, think and think.
yeah sorry geotagging is what i meant and if the sony blogging thing is true then i accept that.
but nobody can say the n95 photos are poor, they are superb and the shutter rate is quicker on the n95 so the photos are rarely ever blurred, which is a total contrast to the k850 where basically every photo is blurred!
bigger screen is not always bigger, 2.8inch in qvga is pushing it n95-2
i dno why everyone here in this forum just closes their eyes and just claims the k850 is better than the n95, yes its far sexier but its just nothing in comparison.
it doesnt do anything! glorified k700
Nick read this,
>4x better video quality - this one is debatable. if your main focus is the resolution alone then you are fooled. You can only say that vga is better than qvga if they have their bit rate and frame rate at ratio with each other.
>.42mm bigger lens - don't tell me the "bigger lens, better lens" statement. David will laugh at you like when Goliath fell down.
>add GPS data to photos - this one I do agree because K850 has no GPS. But please do research for a better term for that - I do believe its called geotagging
>direct upload to windows live or flickr (really really efficient!) - SE already has that before the N95. Its called SE blogthis! feature where you can upload photos to www.blogger.com. The first time you blog with an SE phone, Blogger will automatically create a blogspot for you.
>the camera starts up quicker
>and saves the photos faster! - now that explains why N95 has poor photos...
I just wanna add up some trivia -
Somebody said that symbian is a stable OS.
Symbian doesn't even have its own programming language, unlike Java.
Don't even know if its using c++ or something
And remember Commwarrior V, the widespread phone virus that affected a lot of Symbian phones.
Bigger screen is better
Fact: Not always.
You should also consider the contrast, brightness, resolution, number of colors, and the screen's special feature, like touchscreen or autocontrast(K850 has autocontrast, look at the top-left corner of the screen and you will see a small photosensor)
Bigger internal memory is better.
Fact: almost true
Yes it is generally thought to be better, but what happens when your phone fails - or simply when your out of batteries? you just can't get those files out your phone. So, expandable is always better. and what's better is when you can use two different types of memory storage device.
I also want to add up another thing about the shutter-flash-not-at-sync misconception that Someone just picked up in the net - it isn't true.
If you are a K850 owner read the manuals - and those pieces of paper that is inside your SE box.
You will know why it happens.
dani! the video quality is 4x times worse! stop digging yourself a hole. you and i both can agree the video quality is nothing on the n95's.
also the wifi is certainly not a useless feature! voip calling anyone? i use it all the time because orange are so expensive, and also when i go to america (all the hotels have free wireless)so i phone home free!
also the browser is brilliant on the n95
and dani, why do you hate smartphones so much! there are plenty of applications already on the n95 which you can delete or add to at your own discretion
also the gps is totally open to 3rd party apps and can be used to add a gps data to the photos.
so the n95 has this against the k850 camerawise:
>4x better video quality
>.42mm bigger lens
>add GPS data to photos
>direct upload to windows live or flickr (really really efficient!)
>the camera starts up quicker
>and saves the photos faster!
the k850 has:
-xenon flash (doesnt flash at the same time)
-LED's for that awful qvga video recording
you would almost mistake the n95 for being the dedicated cameraphone!
I really dont see the point in Wi-Fi and GPS in N95..
GPS isnt as good as Standalone GPS's e.g. TOMTOM or Garmin the performance is better on the Standalone ones.
and Wi-Fi needs HotSpots, and plus N95's screen is smaller then a Laptop, so for internet on the move you cant Beat a Laptop.
so N95 already has 2 Useless Features, which half of users wont even use.
and Symbian, again its down to the User, only weirdos would stuff their phone full of applications which 'Makes the phone better' if thats the case, cant Nokia put good Applications as Standard? LOL
Nokia has really lost it.....
K850i has the Best 5MP Camera out of all of the Phones.
i took a picture with N95 8GB and the with K850i , same picture with both phones of my Older phones.
and guess what?
K850i pics looked NATURAL and Clear, thanks to the Xenon Flash!
im the only person in my family to have a K850i, everyone else has N95 8GB ..im being Unique, my 2 uncles have N95 8GB and my cousin has Samsung G600 and i have K850i.
K850i won between G600
K850i won between N95 8GB Twice!
K850i won against my friends N82
K850i won against the Original N95(Uncles old phone)
and K850i has 3 LED lights for Video Recording so it scores again...
K850i scores again because it has a Camera Cover, something N95 8GB and G600 lack.
K850i has Better Music Player then both G600 and N95 8GB
K850i has Faster UI then both N95 8GB and G600
K850i & G600 have better Battery Life then the N95/N95 8GB
K850i has Dual Memory card slot, more memory!! up to 32GB, wins over both N95 8GB and G600, G600 only has up to 2GB, N95 has 8GB only..
K850i is a CandyBar Design, so it wins again..because its tougher then the Sliders.
Sniper. I will credit the k850 for having a xenon flash, but from what i read before on an internet site, the flash and the shutter don't work at the same time leading to either under exposed pictures or over exposed pictures.
I just challenged a friend with his N95 to shoot a whiteboard full of written words and numbers.
Guess what - without flash, full auto - mine registered all the details. Even when a hint of flourescent's reflection is visible, the details are still there.
My friend was aware that his N95 couldn't do it; "ay. di kaya ng cel ko yan..(oh, my phone couldn't perform well like that)"
then I said; "try mo lang. Ang alam ko kaya yan eh.(Let's give it a try. I know it can)"
To the least of my expectations, it turned out blurred and double-visioned.
Then I said; "ulitin mo, ayusin mo settings tsaka wag kang malikot (Try it again, play with the settings and try not to shake it..)"
well, so much expectations I had he just didn't try the third time.
the last time I said; "laru-laruin mo lang mga functions nya para ok yung kuha nya (Try playing with the settings next time for a nicer shot)"
But deep inside I really really was down with Allan and Nick's superior phone...
even with the wi-fi thats needs hotspots, or the gps that is second rate, it just doesn't satisfy.
As of this moment I'm looking for anyone I know with N82, coz I wanna know how well it performs.
I couldn't get what you are talking about..the lens of k850 is not good..common man.....
I have tried with both phones N95 and K850 where K850 produces absolutely natural pic(what you see in your naked eye) than N95 which produces abnormal colors then what is the use of having carl zeiss lens in it.
Nokia can't even produce their own lenses unlike SE and can't use the available lense properly too.
Sony Ericsson is the name which created revolution in camera phone..I hope you know that K750 is the best 2 mega pixel phone ever likewise k790/k800/k810 offering 3 megapixel & K850 which ruled ou the camera department so only the expert knows how to shape up an product unlike nokia.
I Agree with sniper supra & Manikandan
nick, get a grip man SE's are still the Best you can for Camera anad Video recording Beats Nokia's in Quality.
theres no better phone than the n95!!!!
>a really decent lens (unlike the crap one on the k850!)
>an OS open to 3rd parties! (and the most stable os of them all!)
>VGA 30fps video!
>3.5mm headphone jack!
>graphics card for the whole N gage thing
>332mhz proccessor and a secondry 207mhz proccessor!
yeah now lets decide which the better phone is
A best camera phone to have is none other than K850!!!
1)It offers a great camera capability with amazing pic results.
2)Complete dedicated hardware keys and options for the camera which is not available any of the phones.
3)Amazing battery life where you can take as many shots as possible.(Unlike N95)
4)Excellent Multi-Media device that offers walkman 3.0 interface and MagaBass functionality.
5)UI-auto rotate really superb to use.
6)Touch Keys works like a charm.
7)Direct printing of pics via HP printer.
8)5 Megapixel camera phone that offers excellent natural color saturation for the pics.
9)Powerful xenon flash to capture the pics in dark.
10)Bestpic & Photofix that was quite handy where best shots will be always there to capture.
To sum up all if you are looking for a real camera phone then K850 is the best choice to have!!!
hey, i like the recent samsungs, phones like the G810 are good phones
i used to have a motorola v3x, i think it was brilliant.
i used an LG, it was mediocre
ive used a k850's camera, i thought it was crap and wont stop blurring.
i jsut think nokia cannot be beaten at the moment, especially by these little joke phones.
the x1 is great though
-=heyzel=-, 08 Jun 2008@sniper or anyone particularly from asia please...
whats the latest released of K850i softw... moreHaydee,
Its still fixed to R1EA037.
However, if you were not able to download this firmware when it was released, you will not be able to download it today - for some reasons.
And also, other phones with the same platform already has a new firmware, R1FXXXX. Since the C902 and C702 are to be released this Quarter, the K850 upgrade has been temporarilly closed.