@mdz and anyone else who is interested
The Sony Ericsson SO905iCS is part of the NTT DoCoMo lineup, the reigning telecom provider in Japan. The other Cybershot available in Japan is the W61S Cybershot by au (for KDDI, another telecom provider) but don't even think about getting this one, it's CDMA. The SO905iCS is locked to DoCoMo, however, with a purchase of a hypersim, the phone will work fine but has a low percentage of dropping calls.
SO905iCS camera features include:
5.1MP camera, with a junior version of the Sony Exmor CMOS sensor (found in Sony DSLRs)
3x optical zoom (owns the Samsung one any day)
Macro and Super Macro (for as close as 3cm away)
Photolight and not xenon (unfortunately)
Shoots up to ISO 2000
360 degrees panorama
Wide 2MP pictures suitable for High Definition viewing
Accelerometer to correct the picture rotation
VGA 30fps video recording (MP4)
By the way, the camera itself is manufactured from the hands of Sony itself, rather than Sony Ericsson, so you can expect it to be about 10 times better.
2.7 inch screen with WVGA (480x864) pixel resolution
Sony BRAVIA powered screen
MicroSD/MicroSDHC support up to 4GB
Media player (AAC, WMA)
Video player (MP4, 3GP)
Voicemail embedded into the phone (NOT with your provider so... free voicemail ^__^)
Jog wheel for optimal for navigating
And unfortunately, the features only usable in Japan:
GPS with geotagging
Osaifu-Keitai (uses your phone just like a credit card; to buy something just swipe your phone by the scanner.. some other regions like Hong Kong has the same system, so it might work with that too)
i-Mode ( T___T )
I think that's about it, if I have forgotten something I will surely add it. Personally I thought it was a good buy especially with a widescreen BRAVIA powered screen, movies here i come! ^__^
This is th eworst phone i have ever had it has software issues the camera dont work, the phone is poxey steer clear if u want a 5mp phone get the lg veiwty
Had the phone for 3 hours, Touch sensative buttons dont work properly, the phone crashed 3 times and it doesnt read the memory card witout freezng. I always swore by sony but this is shameful. Its going back in replacement for a samsung soul.
I try to update my k850i over SEUS but it says "phone already up to date" but i still have the original firmware R1CA029.
I need to get updated! PLEEZE help!
Superb facilities but heavily flawed implementations.
1. Comes with a curse..Blue ring of death!
2. Not user friendly D-Pad ring.
3. Harder clickity plasticky buttons and D-pad ring. Keypad seen depressed on middle right side when buttons are pressed.
4. Camera flash easily and accidently covered by fingers resulting in dark pictures in low light.
5. File manager hidden in sub menu
6. Video lipsync problems despite firmware upgrade.
7. No wifi for the price.
8. Not very usable for games.
9. Slow CPU resulting in lag.
10. Media Player look plain and laggy.
2 stars upon 5. SE buggered this model.
i tried to update my phone yesterday but it said update are not avaliable.what doest that mean ?
SONY ERICSSON SO905ICS which model of Se is, this?!!!!! Its being sold on welectronics.com.Check it out and plz shed some light on it
Oh yeah. I just wanted to add, the phone I'm using right now has a 2.7 inch screen with WVGA resolution (480x864). ^_____^
No, I'm not bragging. =P
Haha, yeah I figured you were more on the SE side. I'm just making sure that people don't be fooled and buy a Samsung because of their high megapixel count, and instead go for the better k850i or N82, or the best, being the SE Japan lineup.
Bigger image in no way beats better image quality.
thanks bro. Actually, i'm a fan of Sony Ericsson (not a fanboy, just a fan) and all these ppl here know me. but thanks for da info
Actually I've only heard of 10mp as the highest, with solid proof, bypassing any random rumours spread around the net. It's the most I have heard of anyway. However, personally, I don't care about the size of the image, as long as it's about the size of an average computer screen. What affects a picture the most is the quality. I have not used the Korean 10mp cameraphones before, but I can say pretty confidently that the quality will be less or equal of that in a 5MP phone.
A 10mp phone needs a relatively large sensor. If you have seen pictures of the Samsung 10mp phone, there is no way that a 10mp imaging module can fit into it along with a good sensor for such a large resolution. Also remember that it's a standard phone, and within such a refined space has to fit in hardware for the phone (e.g. bluetooth, antenna, and of course the actual phone) too.
The screen on the phone looks pretty small too, which makes me believe that pictures won't only not look good on a big screen, but on the phone display as well.
And, as a side note.. I honestly think that the Samsung 10mp phone is rather ugly, first of all looking more like a camera than a phone, and secondly how the lens actually comes out of the phone. Sure, it makes it more like a real camera, but personally, I think a phone's design should stay in the phone section, and not like a camera.
Sony Ericsson Japan are more focused on reaching a set point, then refining the quality of the handset until just short of perfection. Sadly, these are made for optimal use in Japan, and to the rest of the world they are not as useful or feature packed.
Samsung seems to me like they are trying to jump ahead of the pack, yet giving compromises and lack perfection in a few, important areas. Oh and this only goes for their flagship models; I will have to agree that most of their other models are decent or above average.
I think that the megapixel race should stop, and manufacturers should focus on image quality instead (and of course, loading a phone with a CCD sensor).
By the way, I used to use a Nokia N82 due to it's imaging qualities, but after stumbling across the SO905iCS, I fell in love with SE. Or maybe only SE Japan. ^__^
If I said something wrong about the Samsung, don't flame, I admit to be using logical guesses, as the same factors apply to other phones.
@ iCS & All
what is the maximum resolution on a camera phone that you've seen? I've heard that some of the Korean models have reached 12MP. Is that true?
Not really. You should look at the SE Japan site.
As for Cybershot phones, SO905iCS by DoCoMo and W61S by au wipes the floor completely compared with any phone outside the Japanese market.
K850i is good, but not good enough, yet in due time, it will be much sexier, given phones like the S700 adapt from the SE Japanese style and features... which then it will definitely be a killer.
K850 is said to be the greatest portfolio for Sony ericsson and cybershot family the reason is.
1)5 Megapixel cybershot monster with splendid picture quality.
2)A great multi-media device with walkman 3.0 skin and mega bass functionality.
3)Excellent battery backup for a such high end phone
4)Camera features such as Bestpic(9 pics in one shot keep the one you like) and photofix for underexposed images.
5)Fantastic Accelerometer auto-rotate.
6)Dual Memeory card support.
7)Powerful Xenon flash for night pics.
8)Tri-band HSDPA (3.6 Mb), EDGE
9)PictBridge - print straight from your phone
10)Touchkeys works like a charm and dedicated camera On/Off automatic buttons similar to that of digital cameras.