SE phones are outsourced!!!!!
They are made by other companies and they put SE logo on them!
Companies like Sagem, HTC and several Chinese companies.
SE keeps this from the public and the specs are still not fully released!!!!!!
Mobilemaster, 30 Sep 2009The K850 was announced in June 2007, and the N82 was announced on November 2007. When the N82 ... moreYou keep saying what SE will do in the future -
others will release some excellent phones too.
What is important what you can buy today!!!!!
You can not make any calls with announcements.
And look back - people hyped about x1 for 1-2 years and finally what we got? a lousy phone!
Now, you hyped about the Idou for months and what we got? a n outdated TFT 1000mAh phone that probably will have some reliability issue just like all the recent SE phones.
What others do: release phones so fast the it is hard to follow. They are reliable and have great features for much much less money.
SE had difficulty for years to include a 3.5mm jack - how pathetic is that? :))))
the lousy connection on the side also ridiculous.
SE: where is the miniUSB charger?????
GE the fact and stop the BS!
Mobilemaster, 30 Sep 2009The K850 was announced in June 2007, and the N82 was announced on November 2007. When the N82 ... moreYou are so misinformed that it does not make sense to talk to you! :)))
You are like Indra except he had some selfcritic and left the forum once I showed that he was wrong again and again!
SE HAD several huge problems with Li-Po batteries!
For example: X1!!!!!
It was reported that units are overheated and had very limited battery lifespan!!!!!
It is so strange that you keep spreading exactly the opposite of the facts.
One of the most critical problems of SE phones recently is the BATTERY!!!!! (Li-Po production and quality control!)
you can pre order satio in se store only 479 euro!!!
only 8 days left
..., 30 Sep 2009what uknown manufactorer? SE with help from SE japan made this phone... not htc, not siegma ... moreThis I said me too, SE was helped by SE japan, but he can't believe me. :D I think this phone is very cool, and very good.
what uknown manufactorer?
SE with help from SE japan made this phone...
not htc, not siegma and no nothing!
stop talking crap jesus!
First of all, Satio has 1 of the best TFT out there if not the best 1...
the amount of pressure that is needed to register a click is very low, Satio is the world's best resistive.
the VGA in Satio is the BEST video there is! only omnia hd is better by quality only! (Satio is better in FPS and audio quality recording)
Satio manages to live with 1000 mah battery just fine... the battery is different than lion...
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2009I think Idou reliability will be an issue.
I base my opinion:
X1 was a disaster
prev... moreThe K850 was announced in June 2007, and the N82 was announced on November 2007. When the N82 was out, a lot of K850 products were soled. :) About W960: SE announced it on July 2007, and Nokia announced their N95 8Gb on August. SE started good, but now I admit they are left behind, but I still like their products, SE has great flash menus, great themes(Samsung if I know correct don't add themes on their phone. ABout flash themes, Nokia does not have flash themes. SE is ahead in camera phones, but Nokia is left behind now. I know they will announce on February 2010 their Nokia N98 with 12MP camera, 3.5 inch WVGA screen, 64Gb internal memory, 1GHZ CPU, but I have to say something real to you: Sony gave a few weeks ago their 2008, and 2009 Walkman plan to SE, this mean we will see 32Gb, and even 64GB phones from SE, coz Sony has 32Gb and 64Gb Walkman players. :) SE will continue the C series too from next year, Sony said this. I know this info from a SE site(Hungarian site), and I don't lie. Tell me honestly, what is your favourite mobile phone company? You know what I like, plz tell me you too. :)
SE made big mistakes with their CPU, now look, they add better, and faster CPU's in their phones(the Satio has more CPU speed like the Nokia N97). SE had never big problems with their battery capacity(they use Li-Polymer, not Li-Ion, like Nokia!) SE's batteries are very good. Now tell me your opinion about P990 plz.
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2009a ´master´should not be wrong again and again and again!!!! You also misinformed all the re... moreNo, I don't lie, I actually said my opinion, but not every time! Many times I posted the link, like Indra posted bach then. Indra is a great Mobile Master too, but he now is very busy, or he bored to posts any comments.
I think Idou reliability will be an issue.
I base my opinion:
X1 was a disaster
previously: w902, g900, C902, W890, etc. all had serious reliability issues and had low sales numbers because of it.
K850 was the last big hit but even than N82 got over after a few months.
Mobilemaster, 30 Sep 2009Yes, I admit what I said about the battery, I was wrong. We are humans. :D I like this phone v... morea ´master´should not be wrong again and again and again!!!!
You also misinformed all the readers for MONTHS!!!!!
You stated things like facts!
it was wrong and you were wrong - being a human is not an excuse. If you do not know things shut up and listen and learn - but you argued and argued and called names and acted like you know for months after months day after day!
You lied and lied and lied because you had no official source - you had nothing and when I pointed out that you got nasty!!!!!
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2009You did more than once! :)))) But who counts? :))) So, before you start to threaten be f... moreYes, I admit what I said about the battery, I was wrong. We are humans. :D I like this phone very much, you seen those videos? I posted the links. The silver one is very cool. If SE will NOT announce at least 2great smartphones at MWC, I will be a Sharp fan, when they will arrive in Europe.
Mobilemaster, 30 Sep 2009Tell me when I said you are an id*ot? Maybe once I said, but I can say sorry. I does not have ... moreSo get back to the topic:
Outdated Idou for 800USD! :))))
unknown some of the specs!
Mobilemaster, 30 Sep 2009Tell me when I said you are an id*ot? Maybe once I said, but I can say sorry. I does not have ... moreYou did more than once! :))))
But who counts? :)))
So, before you start to threaten be fair and think back what you have done!
BTW, I said what I said because we already discussed all these. And you have admitted that SE did outsource!
And you several times claimed that Se will change the battery specs, etc.
You were totally wrong and you will be until you wiling to listen and stop
preaching SE hypes.
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2009Look back - you started with it! You did it several times and I never reacted to it! ... moreTell me when I said you are an id*ot? Maybe once I said, but I can say sorry. I does not have problem with you, and I don't hate you. :) So plz stop acting like that here. :)
I think all SE fans should get at least a few Idou for fellow SE fans in developing countries where Idou will not be affordable!
Support SE! Support innovation! Support other SE fans!
SEX1, 30 Sep 2009The more u hate SE, the more I love SE. i have to get 1 of this to change my X1.Yes! GET IT!!!!
I suggest to get more than one! Do not be cheap!
Get a whole box for your friends and relatives.
SE needs your support and I hope with your money Se will make a great phone - it is TIME!
SE lost about a BILLION USD recently!
While others made huge profits!
BUY, buy, BUY! :))))
Anonymous, 30 Sep 2009grandpa? :)))
Well, it is not the labor cost makes a different but the management:
SE ... moreNokia does not outsource their products? Then you can see the problem of their latest phones like n97. See n97 forum, each time i visited it, more people that haven't own/used yet the phone always think n97 is good, but more and more n97 owners found many problems with their phones. I don't see Mr. Quality Control did his job in nokia's factory.
And about labour cost in korea is not as cheap like in china? Well, my SE phone is made in china, but its BST-33 battery was made in korea. what do you think of that, uncle? would SE outsource their product in korea if the cost in this country is as expensive like in japan or in west european countries? korea, china/taiwan, malaysia, indonesia, thailand are some countries that do outsource for many companies bcoz labour cost are competitive.