make it possible around 450-500U$,otherwise SE have to face failure in this context, I love to have SE but, with there price plans others offer a lot more. means realy a lot,lot,lot more. letting camera aside, it is equal to 5800, which is 300U$. so SE think, think, oo shut up.
an se fan, 10 Jul 2009SE didn't lie all Symbian S60 V5 phones are gonna be upgraded to Simbian Foundation later this... moreYou are right, about Docomo, they are good in such things, they have the most advanced mobile phones on Earth, and Docomo is the biggest in Japan. :)
360*640, all world other have 480*800.
for all manufctures, battery for these type of fones should be 2000-2500mAh.
who waits for so long, as others have already brought like this years before.
an se fan, 10 Jul 2009SE didn't lie all Symbian S60 V5 phones are gonna be upgraded to Simbian Foundation later this... morewhat do u mean ALL? even n97 and 5800?
is it possobile to upgrade symbian version..? wtf..?
Kal, 10 Jul 2009I didn't do anything with the images. It is 100% crop from GSMarea samples. Satio's 12mp image... moreok but still... satio has lots of time to be finished while the omnia hd was a pre release unit but it was a finished product... (all products are finished 1 month before release and than starts the massive product)
so wait until gsmarena reviews satio and then we will see...
SE didn't lie all Symbian S60 V5 phones are gonna be upgraded to Simbian Foundation later this year nice move
and this OS is build by nokia+DOCOMO+SonyEricsson's OS :)
..., 10 Jul 2009you zoomed in the satio more than you zoomed in omnia hd omnia hd was previewed but was alrea... moreI didn't do anything with the images. It is 100% crop from GSMarea samples. Satio's 12mp image is bigger in comparison. that's why it looks like zoomed in.
kal, 10 Jul 2009Since there are so much talk going on about it's camera performance and it's comparison with O... moreyou zoomed in the satio more than you zoomed in omnia hd
omnia hd was previewed but was already ready... (thats why no review) because omnia hd was ready in mid april (they usually finish phones 1 month before release and start massive production)
while satio has time until mid august to be ready (satio will be released in end of september)
so wait until satio is ready...
Mobilemaster, 10 Jul 2009You like each other company right, but your favourite is Samsung. What opinion you have about ... moreRachael is really impressive and looking awesome. At this point I can talk about the design, as it's premature to discuss the rest. Initially I had doubts about whether it is real design or not. I'm fond of squarish, not too round edge designs. I liked Rachael's design. In fact am a bit disappointed with Samsung's design these days. The edges are getting too round.
I hope SE release their phones soon rather than just announcements. cheers!
toooo hot, 09 Jul 2009I am really sorry satio... I not gonna buy u... I will buy xperia racheal... because of it's d... moreThat phone is awesome, if you buy you will NOT regret, I am sure about it. :) Sony Ericsson will learn Nokia, they are not weak. :D
Kal, 10 Jul 2009First of all we have been through all these before. I don't remember seeing you here, so chanc... moreYou like each other comapny right, but your favourite is Samsung. What opinion you has about SE Rachael?
Kal, 10 Jul 2009First of all we have been through all these before. I don't remember seeing you here, so chanc... moreYou like each other company right, but your favourite is Samsung. What opinion you have about Rachael?
kal, 10 Jul 2009Since there are so much talk going on about it's camera performance and it's comparison with O... moreOh, and yes..., this forum should be still a user opinions and reviews forum, not to be a forum which is used to defend a VIEW.
kal, 10 Jul 2009Since there are so much talk going on about it's camera performance and it's comparison with O... moreBoth cameras were set to the finest settings?
What I can see clearly visible of using more megapixels at this comparison (8mp vs 12mp) is while both of them are using same quality sensors, 12mp will produces more noises than 8mp (the grey color of the roof's entry gates told this).
I don't care if Satio is still being a prototype. But the sharper result of Omnia HD (I can see it obviously from the trees' pic) had shown me that Satio's camera needs more improvements. SE, you hear me, don't u?
Thanks for cropping, Kal!
is there some posibility after the release date of satio someone to make 720p recording program :/
Since there are so much talk going on about it's camera performance and it's comparison with Omnia HD (which is in fact 8mp). I have decided to create a 100% crop from GSMarena samples. I wont give any judgment. I hope you guys could come up with honest opinion.
Adiel, 09 Jul 2009I thought I made everything cleared, but still you are being stubborn I will teach you somethi... moreFirst of all we have been through all these before. I don't remember seeing you here, so chances are you might not have any idea that this are all old issues. It's extremely disappointing to see some insulting words coming out from a 'sane' person. I would try to make myself clear. If still you think I'm being stubborn then be it. I think the other way around.
I'm sorry about the typo in my earlier post. It should be red mAh instead of MHz for battery.
I know what fan means. I have no problem people claiming SE is the best for them. Or SE rocks or so and so. What I found disturbing is when they try to drag other manufacturers and without any logic say negative things to glorify their beloved brand.
As long as you do that, there will be reaction, there will be some post to counter that. It happens in every site and every forum. You have to learn to live with it. If I like samsung it doesn't mean I will say bad things about a "good" product from other manufacturers. I believe I post constructive criticism, not outright bashing like you are.
As somebody already posted and each and every person who is has little sense will agree that Satio is not finished product yet. Hence it is not the right time to reach to any conclusion that it's got better pic or cam or sound quality. I only replied to someone who said Satio will have better video than HD. I have only replied to someone who said satio got best image quality. I have only corrected them saying at this stage the camera quality is not good yet. They gonna have to fix it, so don't claim it's best. If you people can't accept that, that is called being stubborn.
No matter whatever you say or believe, it's a fact that AMOLED is the future, it's way way batter than TFT. It consumes less battery, it has a wider viewing angle. If you are happy with TFT, that's fine. But ignoring a scientifically proven fact is again being stubborn. You have asked me what's better in HD. So I mentioned it. A TFT display under no circumstances will be a match for AMOLED display.
About Camera quality, I don't think you have seen my post here. I have posted two links taken from GSMarea itself, shot at the same location tough different time. You are comparing Satio with Innvo8 which is 8mp. I have mentioned Satio's image quality is poor FOR A 12MP. There is a review done for PIXON 12. Try comparing those images and you will see (if you are not blind of course) that Satio needs improvement. The detail level is not up to the mark for a 12mp. Here have a look at the links and you will have some idea. Check the hills and the small houses on the right side, Satio got them all washed out.
Again I would say I'm not reaching any conclusion as Satio is prototype. But to my surprise you have already gave your judgment.
Exmor. Do you have any idea what we all were talking about in last 5 months? Suddenly you popped out of nowhere and saying you don't need exmor. All these 5 months each and every SE fans CLAIMED and dreamed of having exmor in IDOU. Now that it's not happening suddenly they have changed their attitude and saying it's fine not to have it.
If you don't need HD video, that's a different matter all together. But that will never mean VGA is better than HD or Satio's video quality will be better than HD's. You are quoting GSMarea for camera review. How come you missed what they said about the video quality. Do I have to right it again? "Omnia HD's video capability still remain unsurpassed". I have only replied to someone who said Satio will have better video than Omnia HD.
By the way do you know that SE fans initially claimed that IDOU will have not just 720p HD, but FULL HD capability. Do you have any idea what they have said that time? I guess not.
I'm not frustrated with internal memory. I know it will come with 8gb card. However I don't know why it hurts so much to you to ask for more. Can you ignore the fact that most top end multimedia smart phones are coming equipped with internal memory? Of course there is a reason for that. Some people argued that internal memory makes the phone slow. Now here in case of Satio it has enough cpu capacity to handle 8gb or more. I'm not trying to make a strong point here, but it would have been better with more internal memory. After all it's labeled as "Entertainment Unlimited". Same goes for battery. A TFT eats more power, and it has xenon flash. So it make perfect sense to ask for more battery. If you are happy with 1000mAh, well I have nothing to say. But to me I thought it would be perfect if it comes with higher capacity battery. Again I mentioned it cause you didn't know where Satio lags from HD. We don't know about the price, but I'm sure you will not pay less for it's 128mb memory or the 1000mAh battery.
I didn't even bother to mention non-existence of standard 3.5mm jack or xvid/divx support. I know you will say you don't need it. Fine. But what will you say about the Rachael coming with 3.5mm then? It's always good for us, the end-users to have these standard features.
This is a good devive except the lack of 3.5mm jack. Will this phone support the .xvid or .divx? If it doesn't come out of the box then it will be a shame,as it's a s60 v5 its not possible to install any 3rd party appl like Core player or so. This UI is still immature. SE should announce the Xperia Rachael now. Btw-Anyone have any idea how much the Satio will cost?