To clarify my post below:
There is no chance of that Sagem will be even the slighliest involved in the Idou production.
lol there is too much uninformed people here.
Sagem was going to help SE to produce CHEAP phones even CHEAPER. This deal didn't even include better and never mid-end phones. This deal was also especially targeted at Asia and Africa, so unless you live there (which most of you bashers don't) you won't be affected by this at all. Even if you live there, the chance that you'll get a Sagem phone will be extremly slim, as they will lack GPS etc. (as described below somewhere)
Sagem was going to help SE go gain market share in the low-end segment, a segment where SE has a weak position, as most of their phones are mid-end or better.
yas, 26 May 2009how much it has digital zoom?Sorry, is impossible to know that, wait till 28, and you will see the full specs.
Kal, 26 May 2009Partnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In t... moreEven the name is Japanese, Idou. Believe me the phone is developed by SE Japan! Yeeeee! :)
Kal, 26 May 2009Partnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In t... moreIdou is manufactured by SE Japan, I read this info, I think in engadgetmobile.com, or in unwiredview.com Visit those sites, to read it. Sorry, but I can't remember exactly, but I know is manufactured by SE Japan.
Kal, 26 May 2009Partnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In t... moreIs Sagem, not Segam, and Sagem is weak in mobile phone business, SE is more advanced. Sagem can't make good phones from SE! Sagem never produced phones from SE, and if made, made in 2003, hahhahaa, not in 2009. They are with 5,6 years behind SE! Sagem does not have new smartphones, doesn't have phoens with big screen, doesn't have phones with Wifi(if I know correcty), doesn't have phones with Agps, or GPS, doesn't have phones with DLNA, and doesn't have phones with great camera!!! Sagem don't make phones from SE!!!
Anonymous, 26 May 2009i just dont like mstl comments, he said about sagem as if all se phone is made by sagem..his c... moreI don't like too his comments, he think Sagem is good, but is weak. He is annoying!
Is it really important to talk about d partnership between SE and Sagem here, in Idou section? If that so, let's we move to J series sections for discussing this at the right place it should be talking to.
Better we discussing about the partnership (if there's any) between SE/Sony/Ericsson and Samsung, coz both right now are in the true competition in many variation of business, like home electronic devices such as hdtv, cams, audio players, hd vid players, etc, or telecommunication networks, etc, n especially in cell phones business. An example which I read from prev posts that Samsung supplies lcd screens to Sony, or, since Samsung is the only OLED screens producer (correct me if I misread), surely while SE is planning to produces phones with OLED screens, off course they will ask Samsung 2 supplies. Do not pretend that SE doesnt need to uses OLED/AMOLED screens. Once mstL said that the future is OLED. In this case I think he was right (only this one, the others are b.s). It's also the future of SE.
Kal, 26 May 2009Do you have any source that it will be made by SE Japan? I would like to see that. Till then I... morehey look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson
"Sony" is no 1 technology in japan and "Ericsson" is no 1 telecommunication service provider from Sweden. :)
anybody say "SE ROOKS"
Anonymous, 26 May 2009kal...pls help me about partnership means.. you said "Partnership is about sharing of knowl... moreNo. If SE has a partnership with Microsoft, Then Microsoft will not let SE know how to make the OS. That's their trade secret. But SE will get to know how to better implement that OS in their phone. If they face any problem, Microsoft might help them sort it out. However, how much knowledge they will share will depend on the partnership agreement. What Microsoft will get out of it? License money and a big name to showcase as partner. hope it helps.
Kal, 26 May 2009Partnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In t... morekal...pls help me about partnership means..
you said "Partnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise" do you mean if SE has a parnership with microsoft for WM OS, microsoft will tell SE to make WM OS?pls explain me more about it..teach me bro..
Kal, 26 May 2009Partnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In t... morei just dont like mstl comments, he said about sagem as if all se phone is made by sagem..his comments is not specific, it must be a propaganda...
iam sure he knows that sagem is for low-end range of SE phone line up but he always offenses idou with it..so i asked him where is his source that idou is made by sagem specificly and you come at here to help the mstl comment
Kal, 26 May 2009Partnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In t... morei think you dont read my source that sagem is only for lowend segmen of SE phone so do you think SE cant make a low end phone ?
I have to concur with what Kal said. Partnership is really about sharing expertise as well as workforce. But there's one thing I still don't get it. Why does a lot of people dislike SAGEM? Is it a bad company or the products produced are a rip off? Anyhow, it's 2 more days from now(Eastern countries) and 1 day from now(Western countries) before the grand announcement of the IDOU^^. Hopefully it will have everything we demanded like EXMOR and capacitive touch with multi-touch UI =)
Anonymous, 26 May 2009i think, you and i have diff opinion about the news...
In my opinion SE doesnt need help fr... morePartnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In this particular case SE got benefited from their "partnership" with Segam. there is no denying. They are relaying on Segam's expertise in entry-level phone so that they can concentrate on other things. I know SE is capable of making any kind of phone. They just didn't want to concentrate in entry-level phones and hence they choose Segam for that. It is very very obvious that SE is getting "help" from Segam. You have to be either dumb or arrogant not to accept that truth.
Before you reply me, let me remind you again, my previous post was a 'REPLY' not a 'New' Post.
Asking for source is "Offense"????? You guys are taking things too personally and getting offended when you don't have an answer. I would love to know IDOU is being made by SE japan. I want to know where you guys are getting that info from. Is that an offense?
What source you are asking from mstL? He is talking about the IODU that we have in-hand now, the dummy or the prototype. We will talk about the real phone when SE announce the actual spec-sheet.
Kal, 26 May 2009Do you have any source that it will be made by SE Japan? I would like to see that. Till then I... morei think, you and i have diff opinion about the news...
In my opinion SE doesnt need help from sagem, SE and sagem are just partnership, SE lets sagem to make their lowend phone so SE can focus to make midend-highend phone so if their low-end phone is made by sagem, it doesnt mean SE cant make lowend phone, does it?
if your question is "why there are people claiming SE doesn't need help from anyone?"
actually SE doesnt need "a help" but SE needs a partnership to make a phone." a help and partnership" word are diff meaning...
do you think SE needs help to make a phone ? sony can make a camera, a walkman, a games, TV and has great manufacture ect. also to add the baseband processor and the RF transciever which includes the GSM quad band UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA is made by Ericsson (Ericsson mobile platform), antenna and the RF front end is designed and developed by Sony Ericsson awesome Engineering team, mechanics that is called industrial design is designed by mechanical engineers of Sony Ericsson, software (lower level that resides on the hardware is developed by Ericsson and further enhanced and integrated by sony ericsson engineering team. Applications and customization is done by Sony Ericsson software engineers. if SE want to make a smartphone, SE can make a partneship with microsoft or symbian, it is very easy, isnt it?
btw...it is not very relevan if you talk about sagem at here coz this forum is idou exlusively..
who talked about sagem here at first ?
pls dont offense mobilemaster opinion...dont forget your friend mstl hasnt answered my quaestion for each his complain about idou specificly ? and he hasnt told us his source so why should we tell you a source ? i think you and mstl need a mirror before offense people opinion..
Kal, 26 May 2009Do you have any source that it will be made by SE Japan? I would like to see that. Till then I... moreit does not matter where the product is made
my job is procurment for huge projects and beleive very few items are made nowadays in the country of origin
all manufacturers have factories around the globe , what matters is the quality control in the factory and the trained manpower
I dont think any reputable company would jepordise its quality by moving to our country , unless it makes products required for that country specifications and market requirements
se makes most of their mobiles in china and this is for the glocal market hence the quality is maintained