I have to concur with what Kal said. Partnership is really about sharing expertise as well as workforce. But there's one thing I still don't get it. Why does a lot of people dislike SAGEM? Is it a bad company or the products produced are a rip off? Anyhow, it's 2 more days from now(Eastern countries) and 1 day from now(Western countries) before the grand announcement of the IDOU^^. Hopefully it will have everything we demanded like EXMOR and capacitive touch with multi-touch UI =)
Anonymous, 26 May 2009i think, you and i have diff opinion about the news...
In my opinion SE doesnt need help fr... morePartnership is about sharing of knowledge and expertise. It's about "helping each other". In this particular case SE got benefited from their "partnership" with Segam. there is no denying. They are relaying on Segam's expertise in entry-level phone so that they can concentrate on other things. I know SE is capable of making any kind of phone. They just didn't want to concentrate in entry-level phones and hence they choose Segam for that. It is very very obvious that SE is getting "help" from Segam. You have to be either dumb or arrogant not to accept that truth.
Before you reply me, let me remind you again, my previous post was a 'REPLY' not a 'New' Post.
Asking for source is "Offense"????? You guys are taking things too personally and getting offended when you don't have an answer. I would love to know IDOU is being made by SE japan. I want to know where you guys are getting that info from. Is that an offense?
What source you are asking from mstL? He is talking about the IODU that we have in-hand now, the dummy or the prototype. We will talk about the real phone when SE announce the actual spec-sheet.
Kal, 26 May 2009Do you have any source that it will be made by SE Japan? I would like to see that. Till then I... morei think, you and i have diff opinion about the news...
In my opinion SE doesnt need help from sagem, SE and sagem are just partnership, SE lets sagem to make their lowend phone so SE can focus to make midend-highend phone so if their low-end phone is made by sagem, it doesnt mean SE cant make lowend phone, does it?
if your question is "why there are people claiming SE doesn't need help from anyone?"
actually SE doesnt need "a help" but SE needs a partnership to make a phone." a help and partnership" word are diff meaning...
do you think SE needs help to make a phone ? sony can make a camera, a walkman, a games, TV and has great manufacture ect. also to add the baseband processor and the RF transciever which includes the GSM quad band UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA is made by Ericsson (Ericsson mobile platform), antenna and the RF front end is designed and developed by Sony Ericsson awesome Engineering team, mechanics that is called industrial design is designed by mechanical engineers of Sony Ericsson, software (lower level that resides on the hardware is developed by Ericsson and further enhanced and integrated by sony ericsson engineering team. Applications and customization is done by Sony Ericsson software engineers. if SE want to make a smartphone, SE can make a partneship with microsoft or symbian, it is very easy, isnt it?
btw...it is not very relevan if you talk about sagem at here coz this forum is idou exlusively..
who talked about sagem here at first ?
pls dont offense mobilemaster opinion...dont forget your friend mstl hasnt answered my quaestion for each his complain about idou specificly ? and he hasnt told us his source so why should we tell you a source ? i think you and mstl need a mirror before offense people opinion..
Kal, 26 May 2009Do you have any source that it will be made by SE Japan? I would like to see that. Till then I... moreit does not matter where the product is made
my job is procurment for huge projects and beleive very few items are made nowadays in the country of origin
all manufacturers have factories around the globe , what matters is the quality control in the factory and the trained manpower
I dont think any reputable company would jepordise its quality by moving to our country , unless it makes products required for that country specifications and market requirements
se makes most of their mobiles in china and this is for the glocal market hence the quality is maintained
Mobilemaster, 26 May 2009The Idou is manufactured by Sony Ericsson Japan, not by Sagem. That guy from MstL is a dreamin... moreDo you have any source that it will be made by SE Japan? I would like to see that. Till then I don't believe anybody, including you.
just be patient till 28 of May 2009
I hope that May 28 th will be the turning point of se , and i hope that they will make it right this time ,
as a 100% se supporter , i am awaiting specifications that could quench the supporters and the oponents thirst
someone, 26 May 2009This idou only has a good camera while less feautures and only recognizes some formats of song... moreis there any advantage of N97 over Idou ?? name just one ?? who needs a qwerty in a 3.5" touch screen
Kal, 26 May 2009First of all you need to read my post carefully. I don't think you have read it. I have never ... moreThe Idou is manufactured by Sony Ericsson Japan, not by Sagem. That guy from MstL is a dreaming guy, he can't even tell us the source, don't believe him ok? Sony Ericsson will be very good soon, you will see that. SE has more than 2, or 3 smartphones, wait and you will see them soon. :)
This idou only has a good camera while less feautures and only recognizes some formats of songs.To have agood phone go fore the
Anonymous, 26 May 2009TO KAL AND MSTL
Sony Ericsson hooks up with Sagem for low-end lineup
by Chris Ziegler, p... moreFirst of all you need to read my post carefully. I don't think you have read it. I have never said IDOU will be manufactured by Segam. It's good to see that you at least got some time to google and understand that SE indeed took help from Segam. I knew this from the beginning and I said the same. The deal with Segam was for entry-level phones.
If you all wish to talk about IDOU only, then why there are people claiming SE doesn't need help from anyone? Answer that first.
My post was specifically for that reason. Do you have any problem with my english?
SulaimSidhalf, 25 May 2009I just got this phone off the market from my hookups, and it is the best phone ever. The camer... moreI know your was off the market, but how much did you get it for, and do we know how much it might sell for?
TO KAL AND MSTL
Sony Ericsson hooks up with Sagem for low-end lineup
by Chris Ziegler, posted Mar 27th 2007 at 4:33AM
We know that the cellphone makin' game can be rough, Sony Ericsson; we really do. Sometimes you've just gotta take a load off. Heck, your fellow European in the Big Five, Nokia, washed its hands of much of its CDMA responsibilities through a deal with Korea's Pantech, so we can totally understand wanting to offload your low-end R&D and manufacturing duties to SAFRAN Group's Sagem. Of course, Sagem is a little closer to home -- France, to be exact -- than those Korean folks, so you should have a pretty easy go of it keeping your rebranded stuff in check. In fact, you're so uptight about it that you've decided to open a new office right in Sagem's hometown of Cergy, France, dedicated to the low-end segment. We look forward to seeing what y'all come up with -- let's just try to make them a little more believable than the "Nokia" 6315i, mkay?
tell me, where is your source about idou is made by sagem...why do you always tell us about sagem at here whereas sagem is just "for low end phone" ? didnt you read that ?
once more. we talk about idou exclusivly at here not about low end phone, stupid!!!
a looser is atill a looser 4 ever...and right now there are 2 looser
pls answer all my question for each your complain about idou specificly ? pls tell me which part and feature are made by sagem?
Anonymous, 26 May 2009are you mstl's brother ??so many SE haters here but this just makes SE greater
SE ROCKSIt is more than likely that he can change his IP address, so it seems that there alot of people posting bad post about Sony. Still the same post, no links to back him up, same B.S.
Anonymous, 26 May 2009dont forget you havent answered my question yet where is your source?your answer must be speci... morealso to add the baseband processor and the RF transciever which includes the GSM quad band UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA is made by Ericsson (Ericsson mobile platform), antenna and the RF front end is designed and developed by Sony Ericsson awesome Engineering team, mechanics that is called industrial design is designed by mechanical engineers of Sony Ericsson, software (lower level that resides on the hardware is developed by Ericsson and further enhanced and integrated by sony ericsson engineering team. Applications and customization is done by Sony Ericsson software engineers.
if it is WM device the operating system is from microsoft, if it is java its sun microsystem now Oracle and it is android it is google, symbian ofcourse symbian.
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970dont forget you havent answered my question yet where is your source?your answer must be specific about idou
do you think nokia can make camera for their phone ?
as we know cybershot and walkman are not made by sagem, it is sony...symbian, java and wm os are not by sagem..
tell me which part is made by sagem?tell me?!!!
your info is not specific and useless in idou forum
remember this forum for idou so pls tell your info about idou specificly
mike kelts, 25 May 2009cant see s/e lasting lasting the year out,,idou will not sell due to price.ya bro i am also afraid of the same fact......................idou is might not be in budget of common people!