Kal, 12 May 2009That SE_INSIDE guy says it records VGA and Plays D1. That's why I'm a bit confused. The protot... moreTrue. But my biggest confusion is whether idou will be using EXMOR or not. From what some websites said, idou will have a very high tendency of using EXMOR and I really pray that it will be using EXMOR. If it's using EXMOR along with BIONZ, then I believe it will be able to record videos in D1 format without cutting a sweat. And yes, like what you stated, we can only wait patiently until May 28th for the final spec sheet and wait another 5 devastating month until it is actually release but hey, if it's a top quality product, then I won't bother to wait^^
general, 12 May 2009A minor correction there. Idou can capture video in D1 mode meaning it's bigger than VGA and ... moresorry hehe i just made assumtion that idou use vga..if i say idou use hd video, se hater wont be happy..:)
general, 12 May 2009A minor correction there. Idou can capture video in D1 mode meaning it's bigger than VGA and ... moreThat SE_INSIDE guy says it records VGA and Plays D1. That's why I'm a bit confused. The prototype tasted also records at vga max. Guess It will be sorted out on 28th. OPAM3430 is capable of encoding/decoding D1 videos. It make sense to have D1.
Anonymous, 12 May 2009well if standard TV is wvga resolution..it doesnt matter coz i consider about the price. HD is... moreA minor correction there. Idou can capture video in D1 mode meaning it's bigger than VGA and much more clearer^^
Kal, 12 May 2009I don't know what you are trying to say. I guess you misunderstood me. Of course there are two... morewell if standard TV is wvga resolution..it doesnt matter coz i consider about the price. HD is still too big for standard TV, you cant watch the hd video at full quality on it but the price is more more expensive than vga video..actually i use xperia x1 right now and i transfer the x1 vga video to pc, the video quality is great and clear..that is why i dont matter if idou uses VGA video and i can buy idou coz i can reach the price rather than use HD video but not at all people can buy it...vga video consume less battery power and memory than HD video..everything has a conswequence..in theory, you are right but my opinion is from my experience..
about black strip on idou video, if you are right that idou video is only 4:3 it still doesnt matter for me as long as the quality is great...but still it is not about video resolution and video quality
i would like to ask you about my xperia, in x1 video option you can set the video on wide (16:9) or 4:3 view so it doesnt matter whether the phone screen is 4:3 or 16:9...it means there will be video option about it on idou..even x1 is not a video or camera phone.
many people use 12mp camera for photograph and also i can zoom the image at many times with clearer image than 8MP camera..it is depend on people's need if people think that 12MP camera is useless we cant offense them but it doesnt mean 12MP camera is bad..fortunetly if you visit sony site you can see the idou camera is not more expensive than 8mp camera but it has great image coz sony uses new tecnology on it...
so i think idou is very relevan for a guy who cant buy HD video phone and doesnt have lcd TV to view HD video at full quality but they will get great quality on idou..it is just about video resolution not about video quality, both are very diff topic.
to people who want to buy a phone because they want to watch video ON PHONE SCREEN, they must pay attention to phone screen resolution, it means if your video is HD resolution but your screen resolution is just 360 x 640 so your hope never come true except you transfer the HD video to HD lcd TV, it doesnt matter as long as you have HD lcd TV to enjoy the video at full quality..if you dont have it, wasting money! i prefer to buy vga video.
I've to agree with what kal said as hd recording capability is a welcomed option. But hold the phone. Omnia HD is not all perfect too. It won't be able to outshine idou in terms of picture quality. I believe anonymous(from mstL) once quoted that 12 mp produces more noise. That's absolutely nonsense as 12 megapixels allow you to capture more details. If he said 12megapixels produce more noise, then HD video also produce more distortion as it is recorded through a phone with a very small lens(like what mstL said). Therefore, it's obvious he's already out of topics to shoot at idou. So omnia HD is actually very good in terms of video recording but when it comes to camera performance, idou have the upper hand. They are both magnificent phones, it just depends whether you want to have good pictures or good videos.
As for idou's 480p recording capability, I believe it's 720x480. So idou's 3.5inch with 640x360 should be able to display it in a very nice manner. Hopefully, sony ericsson will release a firmware upgrade where it will enable idou to capture video in HD mode(assuming idou will be using the much awaited EXMOR) like what they've done with the c905(smile shutter). Furthermore, the sole reason why I am getting idou is because of it's outstanding touch sensitivity and excellent camera(provided it uses EXMOR, BIONZ processor and high QUALITY LENS).
P/S It seems Anonymous from mstL had become dumb ever since he ran out of topic to slash at the idou. All the post he've posted until now are just repetitions of what he said before and before so I don't see any reason why we should be provoked by his incompetent comments.
Anonymous, 12 May 2009nope,my opinion about black strip is not about video resolution but way to view the video (vid... moreI don't know what you are trying to say. I guess you misunderstood me. Of course there are two option to view the video. Don't forget your video is 4:3 and your screen in 16:9. If you choose to play it as it is, there will be black strips on left and right. If you wish to see full screen, it will be cropped to fit into the screen and you will lose some pixel at top and bottom. Its' like zooming in. You cant see the whole video. The ratio doesn't match. It's as simple as that. That is my point.
Stadard Tv(NTSC) has 720x480 resolution. You have to stretch a vga video to fit into your tv. It's 640x480, Whereas watching HD video on the same tv will look better than that even though you are not actually wacthing HD in its full capacity. Try it on PC. If your desktop resolution is atleast 1024x768 and you want to watch fullscreen video. Which one will be better, 640x480 vga or 1280x720 hd? It wont matter weather you have a 15" or 21" monitor. It's pixel count that matters. Anyways having Hd capability is not meant for watching in mobile. Then why you need 12mp? 2mp,3mp,5mp,8mp even a vga picture will all look good on that 3.5" screen anyway. We need higher resolution pictures because you will transfer it in our pc and then take print out right? Same goes for HD videos too.
my comment is... this phone was incredible... sucking all sony's technology as usual... 12MPx camera... finally realize that UIQ is dead then using same OS like Nokia & Samsung...... well...
speak of Omnia HD with HD video capability, why this phone cannot do that? all SE fans sez it's not effective coz the screen only 360x640px, so 1280x720px video is useless... hello SE fans, check your excuse, do you realize why most Nokia N-Series with QVGA screen can produce VGA videos? coz they realize they have a TV-Out and people who love to collect video of their memories on a computer will get pain in the *ss to see those pitiful small video that produce by a 5 OR MORE MEGAPIXELS CAMERA PHONE. ^^
then same thing with Omnia HD, if you're not intend to collect HD videos on your PC by your phone, just reduce the video size, don't ever excuse with memory, screen size... that's all excuses by a big resolution camphone with a stupid video recording.
or you should ask all those handycam brand to make a FULL HD LCD SIZE ON A HANDYCAM, hahahaha..... LoL
kal, 12 May 2009yes It's sort of wrong from my part to say resolution and screen size are not related. They do... morenope,my opinion about black strip is not about video resolution but way to view the video (video view option)so it is depend on video view type. if you play video with wide screen(16:9)view type of course there will be black strip but it doesnt mean the resolution is too small for the screen size you can view the video in fullscreen view type,do you ever see DVD video view option ? yes you will understand what i mean.
if the resolution is too small for the screen size so the video will be streched and the pixel quality will be distorted...try it by your self if you have CIF, qvga or VGA video resolution view them on 40" Full HD LCD TV you will know the result is..not at all people have HD LCD TV so if people transfer hd Video to non LCD TV or reguler TV or 360 x 640 screen it will be useless, they cant enjoy HD video at FULL QUALITY though they play HD video
yes you can transfer the video to PC but must i use HD video on PC screen ? nope..VGA video resolution is more than enough for PC screen
if i have HD video but i watched it on 360 x 640 screen so i just enjoy 360 x 640 video resolution and the left pixels are wasted coz the screen can only consume 360 x 640 pixels not HD pixels.the screen resolution is limited
i think VGA video resolution is very relevan for people who doesnt have HD TV and not at all of people can buy HD video phone..only a rich people and people who has a HD lcd TV will buy a HD video phone bravely..
look at mstl..i dont think he can buy idou or omnia HD, he is just a provokator here though he know omnia uses HD video..
we are better than him we will buy idou though idou can only record VGA video but with great quality..
that is my opinion..
Anonymous, 12 May 2009Recall before release???? :)))) Good start! :)))) You can not show any official announc... moreYou are crazy, crazy, sorry for my comment, but I can't speak another thing to you. If you think Idou is the worst mobile phone from SE...
3.5mm [or bt headset inbox]
stylus inner phone like xperia
hd record fight with omniaHD
They said 5mp is enough when Samsung, Se and Lg all released their 8mp. Now that they have a 8mp, so it's enough. Are they paying less for 8mp? It's not just the mega pixels that is increasing. Lens, processor and other components related to the camera are getting improved with every release I believe.
Nokia Lover, 12 May 2009Sony Erriccson can never give up creativity.Non sense.
All the same model copied from LG View... moreWill you say the same thing when Nokia comes up with 12mp in say 2 years (they are way behind, so I assume)?
mccoy, 11 May 2009If you compute pixels per inches on screen there are more pixel count on phones than on LAPTOP... more--"But samsung should must not tell HD playback because its not the right term"--
There is nothing wrong to use that term. Because:
1. It actually decodes HD video
2. It actually Plays back Hd video. You can transfer any HD video or the videos captured by the phone and watch it on the mobile screen or watch it on your HD TV. So if Samsung says you can view HD video, there is nothing wrong in it. You are viewing HD video. It might be in a smaller screen, but it is playing HD. That's only the difference.
Anonymous, 11 May 2009iam sorry Kal, i have diff opinion with you about Video resolution..my opinion, size is relate... moreyes It's sort of wrong from my part to say resolution and screen size are not related. They do. As I also mentioned that you can watch a vga video on your mobile or your desktop or your large screen tv. Only the "viewing Experience" will be different. General asked me how many inches is d1. That's why I said it can't be measured that way. But I cant agree on the black strips. There has to be black strips on both side if you watch 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen or you will lose some pixels vertically in order to fit the whole screen horizontally. Try watching a widescreen format movie in your regular Tv. You will know.
Anyways the whole point of having high quality video is not restricted to mobile only. That's why it comes with HD tv out. HD videos are best watched in HD tv. But watching it on the mobile is mind blowing as it's already been mention several times in different websites. It's a technology breakthrough. The phone needs to come with plenty of memory and a higher capacity battery. In case of OmniaHd, they took care of them all plus they have added AMOLED screen for less power consumtion.
Sony Erriccson can never give up creativity.Non sense.
All the same model copied from LG Viewty.
Just puttin a 12.1 MP cam is not what is expected from Sony.
Just watch Nokia N97, a phone of its kind,Thats called future.
People buy the phone for all way functionality n not for going to jungles to take pictures with 12.1 MP cam.
5 MP is more dan enough, if not then 8 MP is more than wats needed.
In One word , Not up 2 the mark.