The sensor size of camera phones are so small that the quality of a digital camera so much better since the sensor size much larger and the electronics much more advanced.
The DLRs are has so much bigger sensors that it is pointless to compare.
The compact digital cameras already have much larges sensors and lenses and that itself enough to outperform the phones. The much more advances electronics just increases the difference.
A relatively good compact camera is about 400-500 USD.
(DSLR 1500 and up)
You pay for performance and quality when you get a digital camera - a phone will not produce similar quality.
That is the reason that today a 12mp phone camera is pointless. Much better to have a 5-8mp phone with great lens and less dense sensor - better quality.
12mp sensor more dense producing more noise and artifact with out the benefit of useful resolution.
For normal size print (8.5x11 or A4 - people rarely print this size or larger) 5-8mp is more than enough resolution.
12mp is just a PR/ / SALES gimmick without merit - actually it has disadvantage since with the same technology an 8mp sensor would produce a much better image!!!!!!!
Anonymous, 06 May 2009are you serious? you are saying SE is better than Nokia because your K800 takes better photos ... moreI'm saying that even my old k800 has a beter camera then any 5MP nokia and the batery i won't even mention!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So nokia fans get a real phone!!
I am an avid user of SE. This phone must be the best phone from SE. How about the price?
SE_INSIDE, 06 May 2009-CYBER-SHOT will be the FIRST phone with EXMOR CMOS 12.1 MP sensor from SONYERICSSON. It won't... moreWhat the! Only 480p? That's pathetic. I thought it was able to capture videos at 720p or HD. And no exmor sensor? Are you sure? Why do you sound like indra. Are you really working in SE? Any proof?
Oh my GOD! The idou is so flawless! Just check it out at this website.
The idou is really really cool. And to think this one is still no where near completion. I can't wait for the completed idou!
kal, 06 May 2009Configuration of TRUE Entertainment Unlimited:- 1) Biggest 3.7" AMOLED with 16m color 2) Sur... moreIf you think omnia HD is that good, then why don't you get the hell out of this forum?! This forum is to discuss about the idou. Not some retarded omnia HD and pathetic nokia N86 and N97. Just wait for the final product. And it seems there's still a retard who thinks idou is using only 1000mAh. How pitiful.
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970lol nice specs, thinking of changing to n86 now. thank you for that link.
Configuration of TRUE Entertainment Unlimited:-
1) Biggest 3.7" AMOLED with 16m color
2) Surround Sound with DNSe 2.0
3) 1500mh battery
4) 8mp cam on par with pixon..at times better.
5) Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
6) Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
7) FM transmitter
8) DLNA HD TV-out
9) World First HD 720p@24fps video recording along with D1 (720x480 pixels)@30fps, VGA@30fps, QVGA time-lapse and slow-mo video
10) 3.5mm audio jack
11) DivX/XviD support
... and that is i8910 Omnia HD. That's what the real "Entertainment Unlimited" should be like.
Mobilemaster , 06 May 2009i have done checks and i admit now, i am retarded and Stupid, and i am very sorry guys for put... moreHey Nice choice.
Now see the configuration of Sony Ericsson Idou: -
1) No AMOLED
2) No Dolby Digital Sound
3) Only 1000mh battery
4) No Carl Zeiss optics
4) Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
5) No Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
6) No FM transmitter
8) Video Recording Unknown
9) No 3.5mm audio jack
Anonymous, 06 May 2009when it release in England its really nice phone. i like itNokia N86 8MP in july
Anonymous, 05 May 2009sample photos are terrblewhen it release in England
its really nice phone. i like it
i have done checks and i admit now, i am retarded and Stupid, and i am very sorry guys for putting n86 down again.
Nokia N86 8MP Rules!
Sony Ericsson Idou Sucks BIG TIME! as my mommy would say to my lil sister wait till your older you have not hit the big time yet!
Note: ill buying my daughter the n86 and the n97 for my self.
S.E. FAN_FOREVER, 06 May 2009At least S.E. doesn't hire other companys to solve their camera problems of low color quality,... moreare you serious? you are saying SE is better than Nokia because your K800 takes better photos than N95?
these phones are OLD! try comparing a new nokia e.g. N82 to a new SE! N82 is rated 2nd best camera in the mobile market (even though only 5MP!), Samsung INNOV8 is rated 1st. SE C905 is rated 4th. Can you count to 4? It comes after 1,2 and 3.
s.e. FAN_FOREVER, 06 May 2009This is my next phone!!! S.E. ROCKS I don't give a sh...t about your opinions! I'm buying t... moreyes clearly SE have the best cameras. since all SE's cameraphones out now are rated 2nd - 4th in their class. hmm, something doesn't quite add up....
Can anyone tell me the size of its memory?? and how much is the phone?? Thanks
SE_INSIDE, 06 May 2009-CYBER-SHOT will be the FIRST phone with EXMOR CMOS 12.1 MP sensor from SONYERICSSON. It won't... more-3 more touchscreen devices (two mid-end and one android-phone ) till the end of the year
are se looking to come up with an lg km900 arena challenger with these 2 mid-end touch phones? if they can produce 2 mid-range phones to match/beat km900 arena then i'll go for se instead of km900 arena. please reply. thanks.