indra, 13 Apr 2009the last answer for you
in other word, i just want to know what people want of idou...my in... moreThere is nothing to hate - Idou does not exist. :)
If/when it comes out I will not get it not because it is SE but because it is a brick.
In 2010 I do not want to have a 15mm brick.
Hitachi offers a 4 inch screen, 10mm thick phone - just an example what can be done.
For me Viewty was too thick - and that was some time ago.
The camera performance and the lousy battery are two other reasons I will not give any money for this phone.
I hope by the end of the year SE or other companies come out something much better than Idou.
Idou is totally outdated except the camera resolution what is absolutely useless.
Indra go back take some basic science courses and see you in a few years. :))))
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970the last answer for you
in other word, i just want to know what people want of idou...my information, maybe is nothing at all but i gave you a clue...
whatever you said but time will tell the truth :)
iam sorry if i bother you..bro
PS: dont take it seriously, i hold your word that you are idou hater so if the idou has been out with it full spec...dont be suprised and dont buy idou if you buy it you are the most stupid on earth!!
im staying in shanghai right now(china)., im just wondering., most of the phones are done here in china right? how come its more expensive here.. u guys have any idea... BTW idou RULEZ!...... i just hope it wont disappoint me...
A whole paragraph from Indra:
˝ my information is a clue so it is not 100% true but my information from official site and my friend who work in SE, you can see that i always list where i got the information.my information is not my imagination.read my information summary carefully. ˝
and he tries to explain things to us? :)))))
He keeps pushing the sensor specs - meaningless.
No info (with reputable official info):
1: who will produce the model
2: where will be produced
3: what the h.ll they were thinking when decided on 1000mAh battery
4: HD recording
But, of course he is totally convinced that Idou will be a perfect phone - without any foundation.
Naturally, any nonsense does not bother me! :)
actually i dont mind if i dont give my information at here coz you dont pay me for it at all and you dont ask me about idou..i just share my information to you guys...i never push anyone to believe my information..i just answer their complain about my information..idou and omnia HD are great though iam a great SE fan even more but you can see i never offense samsung fans or never attack omnia HD...
oh ok i dont blame you about it coz you guys dont know who iam...even if gsmarena guy know me, iam sure they want to know about idou from me and if you know me i think SE fans will give me many advices to upgrade idou..finally, i have known what they want coz i always come here to see what people want of idou.
to all SE fans, dont worry coz you will be very happy :) then slap SE hater here..time will tell the truth
didnt you realize that i tried so hard to help you ?
my information can help you to choice a phone can fulfill what you need without offense the other phone..i dont have a website to public my information so i must use the other site to prove my information has stronger statement than just opinion but iam so tired now
if i have many mistakes to you, iam sorry about that bro!!
it is the last comments from me...iam so tired really..really tired...it is the 2nd statement i said" it is the last comment" next time i wont..
to SE hater, i think you will be happy coz you wont read my information any more at here.happy!!happy!!!lol :)
I LIKE BRAVIA PHONE :)
phil., 13 Apr 2009people please! stop complaining abt. what indra says, sorry for those who will be offend on my... moreI'm afraid se fans like dissapointed about the unproven hysteria of indra's comments,n i'm afraid se can't wake up (coz their unhappy sales volume n quality) to fight with nokia or sammy even lg...
Unfortunately i'm nokia fan but i realize
Sammy hd still leads idou n n97
phil., 13 Apr 2009people please! stop complaining abt. what indra says, sorry for those who will be offend on my... moreim not an SE hater, and i would be glad if this phone will have monstrous features, because if ever, this thing will be my next phone..
people please! stop complaining abt. what indra says, sorry for those who will be offend on my word! i think those SE haters are afraid if idou will have a monster faetures, and have a fear if the mobile brands that will be affected if this phone will sell in the market soon
Indra? cant you see that you are doing the wrong thing?
more and more people are bashing you..
cant you see your mistakes?
i feel sorry for you..
about the link that i want, no one give it to me, because there is none. German site? is that can be called official? they did that on X1, then what happen?
Indra..Are u sure idou will use exmor??
Why se didn't say that in mwc 09,except 1st 12mp n symbian foundation os (not s60v5 like n97,5800,hd)
And dani,i know u are the legendary se fans (former using k750,then k850,now use n95 8gb),i think u know k850+n95 cam which is better (xenon is relative,compare it to n82 or g810)..don't lie,coz i own both of them...n95 8gb+g810 has better outdoor cam..but k850 xenon is amazing at indoor..then n82 should enters the competition,i have nokia,sammy,se,lg phones..so i know pros n cons of them,only 1 thing that i know se battery is superb! But features,performances..the big two (nokia+sammy) much2 superior n gr8 pricing...
Not too late for se to catch nokia,sammy,lg..coz of cybershot,walkman brand,but se needs revolutionary platform,not boring a200 platform,or problematic xperia winmo,hope se answer with this idou...
Exmor can't be the parameter of best cam,coz carl zeis (nokia),kreuznach(lg),or proven generic innov8 lens has gr8 track record
SE going for the 12mp because of sales PR.
For the customers an 8mp with good quality lens, less dense sensor would produce a much better image.
Packing 12mp resolution on a small sensor results a noisy, poor quality image.
(see how much larger the DSLR sensors - for reasons)
Unlimited entertainment? :))))
1000mAh battery will limit quite a bit! :)
I agree with the guys here:
SE announces but do not deliver. Once SE release something there are better models out from different companies.
Indra: I am sorry. Your reasoning is so primitive and hard to follow that I can not even read the whole thing.
You wrote once: My English is bad but who cares.
Well, people who try to read your already foggy logic cares.
I now it is hard for you to understand - a newly developed sensor do not guaranties anything.
Having an excellent image quality depends on:
- electrical circuit
I have written this but you keep pushing the sensor topic without ever seeing any output from the sensor itself.
You rely on PR - no personal experience.
You have no engineering understanding or education.
But no shyness to pretend that you understand specs.
Indra`= pretender :)
although sometime ago you openly admitted that you have no clue about tech data.
No shame that you misinform people here?
it's stupid that sony ericsson produce these cybershot phones which are all centred around the camera, yet are the worst in their class.
it's a joke.
and im sorry, the k850's camera is worse than the n82's, and the n95's!
This is what exactly SE was looking for. They want people to talk to discuss about idou..That way they can gain peoples confidence...their share holders are not happy with its future. They announced it in 10-12 months in advance. What we are still calling a "Prototype" was never even close to a prototype. It could be called nothing more than a show-off dummy. A prototype does pretty much same thing that the final product would do..there is always some minor changes to the final product..websites including GSMarena do review with prototypes. Now can you review idou? You cant. Coz it's not even close to a prototype. Now lets have a look. Mostly when a manufacturer develops something they do more R&D and fine tune it. SE came up with just one 8mp the C905. Have you seen them working on that anymore? They didn't. Samsung, Lg came with 8mp too but they worked hard and now they have more than 2 8mp models in their portfolio. Why SE didn't perfect 8mp and wants to jump into 12mp? Why announcing a phone in 10-12 months advance and let everyone in dark? It's simply not worth talking about. Not at all. Let them announce something first. A 12mp cam with HD recording must have enough internal memory and battery backup. I wonder why they never put it that way for the sake of it...at least we people could have believed. they could change it latter on. It's SE who has to blame. They are playing tricks and letting everyone fight. An the way I see it, they are quite successful in that. I wont waste a single word on idou from now on until I hear from SE.
5mp : løok at sammy g800 review on gsmarena,g800 wins hand downs vs k850,even symbian sammy g810 beats k850 easily..n82? Yes comparable to g810
8mp :again..innov8 proven to be the best till now! Read the 8mp war in gsmarena review
SE in 3rd? Yeah in q3 2008,but in q4 2008 LG + moto overtook se again...and q1 2009 result is se bleeding again and in 4th place below lg (moto at 5th)
SE market share 7.5%
SE always announce 8mp - 12mp earlier than other vendor but according to 8mp history,sammy innov8 is the winner,every profesional review site like gsmarena,mobile-review,smape.com,mobilearsenal.com do the test between innov8 vs c905,all of them said that innov8 is the winner..hope se payback at 12mp to fight with lg
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2009are you crazy? K850i - Best 5MP - i really dont know this one, but as far as i know n82 is ... moreGo to texas equipment site.idou will use TI3430 OMAP.jst shut your yap cos,it stinks badly you bloody hater.
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2009i really hope idou will release on time.. expected release = october? lol LG and samsung... moreDo you think samsung,lg,nokia wil violate the sale of its flagships yet to be release? They have to sell them well b4 jumping on 12mpx
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2009Just a general comment:
Yes, the model is not released yet.
Like many other models.
Ye... morelol...you explained it according to dictionary and with your view ? haha lol
you dont know what the entertaiment unlimited means according to SE explaination...
you always push people opinion with yours as if your opinion is right at all
you are so funny.you dont believe the other opinion who like the idou but in other side you always do it too, you always result the idou quality do you remember even you ever said :No specs, no performance evaluation, no reliability guidelines.
your statement is diff with what you did..what a shame...
if SE fans must list where they got the information and the information must be official, i think you must do it too if you dont believe them you have rights for it but you must list the official information to prove our informations are wrong not by your opinion.
it is not fair if we list the information with a link but you complain our information without the link what you have that we can trust.
actually you are the one who always repeat this topic again and again just because you dont believe the topic.
read it for example: i ever wrote that SE uses 12MP cmos sensor from EXMOR...there are many site said that too like :
6. this last number is my opinion : there is no cmos sensor has 12MP it means sony EXMOR cmos sensor is the first and the highest cmos sensor as much as 12MP for phone (you can see the news at poin number 5 above.) so if idou doesnt use 12MP cmos sensor from exmor like what you said so tell me, which other 12MP cmos sensor will be used on idou ? tell me pls with the link too!!!
then where is your information to prove idou doesnt use 12MP exmor cmos sensor ?list the link what you have pls!!
prove it...prove it!!!
dont to much speak bullshit at here, just prove it!!
give us your link where you got the information every you complain our comments :)
thanks and GBU!
be a fair!
Just a general comment:
Yes, the model is not released yet.
Like many other models.
Yes comparison is not practical totally.
But, we can still talk about the facts already released:
- some features
- some specs (size, battery, internal memory, resolution etc.)
Obviously, reliability and performance are remained to be seen.
And if anybody see an outdated specs or features is is totally reasonable to voice an opinion even though the model is not released yet.
1000 mAh battery is a bad joke!
It is published all over the net for long time now. There are SE reps here and no official deny yet - I wonder why?
(because the initial publication was correct - it was not a mistake - SE announced the Idou with a 1000mAh battery)
and they still quite about it (for weeks!!!!)! The planning and reaction are totally incompetent.