Oh god, this going nowhere. What happens if japanese people do not use their own products???
There are some facts. Whether japanese people do use sony or not sony is the best brand in electronics. In phones, sony ericsson is just as good as nokia if not better. I used to be such a guy, nokia rules, all else crap.
And how do you know japanese people do not use sony ericsson? Have you asked them all? And you told that they think ibm the best computers. Than that's a reason not to trust them right? Ibm is just crap. nothing more.
All these put aside, if japanese people said all of a sudden sony ericsson is the best nokia is a bad brand, what would you do? say that sony ericsson is the best phone? Nah, come on, whether you agree or not this phone is better than every phone nokia has at the moment. I don't give a damn about 8800 or N90. 8800 doesn't even have memory card! N90, a really good phone but not as good as this one.
Please do not try to use other people's opinions to talk bad about this one. And you don't even know what the general public in Japan think of sony ericsson.
I checked D600's specifications and could not see anything that would make that one beter than this one. Please point those specs that you think is better.
I Understand that a lot of people love nokia, I like nokia as well. But just because nokia is your prefered brand in phones doesn't mean that sony ericsson is bad. "please go away from our market!" what the hell?! This sound like 10-year-old children. I can't understand, if you don'like classical music can you say that beethoven sucks? I don't like eric clapton, but he is good musician. I don'T say he shouldn't play or something like that. All I can think of your reaction at the moment is that you have given a lot of money for your "best" nokia phones and can't stand to see a better phone with a better price.
This will get nowhere. Sony ericsson is good. And W800i is the best entertainment phone on the market. Be it camera, be it mp3 player. It kicks ass. Nokia should do better than what they have done until now for your words to be reasonable...
i see a lot of people talking about rubbish
mark my words the tels that will make the whole phone industry jump to the next lvl are the nokia NOKIA N91,SAMSUNG D600,W800I(SAME AS K750),NOKIA N90,PANASONIC VS7 these phones will play a big part off all the phones that are comming from now on caus the next generation phone will meet al your so i can tell u u wwildest dreams caus the tehcnologi is rising very fast. look at the difference between the phones from 2 years ago and the recent phones there is a major difference and i think that the next generation will be FANTASTIC!! SO GET EXITED!!!!!
this phone rules .those who run this phone down do you have one .. i think not if you did you would be singing sony ericsson praises ... sony ericsson rules.. knocked NOKIA of the top spot for the min .. keep up the good work .. sony ericsson...w800 rules .........
hi man,,, i used p900 be4 ,, and usin w800 right now. p900 bought from www.mobileshop.com 1.5years ago on 18 month contract. so just upgrade got my new handset w800i now. seriously sound quality p900 is far more better than w800i. especially without headfone. w800 only comes with the cool headset and walkman mark , then said walkman phone....i still prefer my p900 otherwise battery better than w800i, if u still doubt can leave me a message...
i saw a person posting exactly the same post in the 8800 with eu support's post in this forum. I wonder if they are the same person... just a bit odd though, coz he doesn't put his name down on the 8800 forum haha... aniwae... adding up my comment about this phone:
in terms of application N90 is definitely better than this phone--> since N90 is a smart 3G and 2.75G phone and W800 is only a 2.5G phone. As a MP3 player--> w800 rocks man!! and the camera is confirmed that it is better than N90, although only slightly, go to mobile-review forum.. you will find this phone fight, its really hot.
One thing that i disagree is that saying that this phone is rubbish. Only ppl who never gone to school will say this. Although this phone is not better in terms of application and tech (3G... bla bla bla) this phone wins in price (cheaper), size (smaller), battery life and absolutely, camera+MP3 (and flash? i do not see that N90 has a flash though--> tell me if i am wrong.. it is good to have flash).
If you are mentioning about rubbish phone, i will tell you it is:
N8800, N7260, N7280
And if you say that japanese do not use their own product, can i ask you a question?
Do you actually love to use your own country product? honestly say, i never trust them. I prefer the one made by foreign country coz they are always better than mine---> this is pretty much the way japanese ppl think.. My fren a japanese girl says that she hates japanese ppl and won't married any one of them. She even say: "i wonder why so many ppl say that japan is great? i am japanese but i never think that they are great"
(i am refering to "off our market" for this post and my previous post)
And no matter that the battery life doesn't go as it is claim, N90 doesn't perform even better than that.. go to N90 forum, you will find that a lot of users complaint about the battery life, which is poorer than W800i.
And lastly, i actually doubt about your saying that the MP3 quality is no better than P900.. do you actually got the handset?
NO other users apart from you complaint about the MP3 quality.---> same goes to se go away... i think you just simply bash the phone because you hate SE. (imagine if this phone is by nokia.. what will you say?)
BTW... Nokia's new phone has a very short battery life---> N90 and 8800. So many ppl complaint about that.
i agree with you about the casing that easily gets dirty and looks cheap. I also agree that somehow walkman is to trick ppl, but not really if you compare to nokia that claim their CZ lens on N90. Its a market gimmick you know.. its only borrowing CZ name. The lens is really by CZ, but the camera sensor sux.. so.. if you do not like the phone.. its simple, this phone is not for you. Regardless to whatever you say.. this phone interest me still.
I Maybe thick, But what was the Point of the Se W800i Its totally identical as K750I which i have apart from the Memory Card Which i have been told you can put a 1GB in a K750I, the Thing i hate about this thins in teh camera design on the back Tell what would be good is a the K608 3G Phone with k750i Phone. siler front and black back
the w800i and k750i arent better then the samsung d600 overall the features of the d600 surpasses the ones of the SE's
the SE's are only better with camera (best camera at the moment)
mp3 and fm radio
with all other specs d600 beats "SE
but dont get me wrong w800i and k750i are good phones but i know that they are not better then the d600 go check the full specifications u will see that i am rigth
hi man i agree with u ....w800 rubbish fone, poor quality cheapest white colour plastic easy dirty,,,battery does as descript 30 hours, much less, around 4-5 hours mp3 playback. and they marked mp3 fone, just joking..even sound quality much poor than they previously p900..walkman fone just their adv route, just cheating our EU consumer, even japanese doesnt use their own product w800i...SE go away from our market
battery doesnt as descript,,30 hours mp3 player...much less..around 4-5 hours...i agree quality is poor , material poor, white plastic easy dirty... total rubbish fone
i have 8800 and w800i both, i dont know y people prefer w800i, actually w800i function is okey, but quality and material is absolutely poor, i have sold my w800i. otherwise i know couple of japanese, even they use nokia fone, they never use sony ericsson, and they said nokia is the best in mobile, ibm is the best in pc. they just sell their product 2 us making money. occupy our market, replace our eu product. so definitely we should support nokia and moto....they r worlds no1 and 2..they r the best........
just wondering if anyone can tell me what is the latest Firmware for this fone? I'm hoping to buy it very soon but would like to know f/ware version 1st....
i just got my w800 yesterday. i too have been a nokia user since my first phone 7 years ago. nokia always makes quality products, and before this i owned the nokia 6620.6620 is also an mp3 player, but with nowhere near the speaker volume or memory, from what ive seen so far the w800 is the best phone iver ever seen. the fact that a 512 mb memory stick is INCLUDED (which my ebayer forgot to put in package so i still havent been able to listen to my own music) puts this phone above any other one., including any nokia phone. i did research every day for a week on every phone out/coming out, and this phone is ALL AROUND the best. there may be better phones in some areas, but you will not find a more complete phone than this. and the fact that you can use full mp3 songs AND recorded sounds as ringtones completely negates the need to ever buy another ringtone. all around for the price, you wont find anything like this phone, and definitely won't be disappointed.
If you are saying that this phone is a waste of money.. you are right.. its not even matches the price of 8800. let us compare between the two phone:
8800----> 1400 AUD (equals to my PC's price, i would even prefer to buy a PC instead of this phone)
-they claim that the resolution equal to laptop---> fine!
-most ppl complain the battery life of only 1 day
-lots of ppl complain that this phone is overprice, and not worth its price
-memory only 64 MB and NO CARD SLOT
-many ppl complain that this phone hangs all the time, there are users out there who have 5 of these and it hangs all of them, check it in the 8800 forum. In this website.
-many ppl complain that the lower keypad you cannot really press it because of the casing.
and they are too small.
-camera ONLY 0,5 megapixel
Now we compare it with W800
-price--->999 AUD (a bit expensive ya? i thought its goin to be cheaper than that, aniwae...)
-many users says that the MP3 rocks---> its by walkman.
-Camera 2 megapixel---> can you explain to me in what way 0.5 megapixel camera can win against 2 megapixel camera... this phone beat the nokia best camera phone man!!! N90!!
i already know that 8800 is not even better than N90, its even worse than 6230i!!
-battery life---> talk to 9 hours, listening to music for 15 hours with the phone on and 30 hours when the phone off
-this phone is smaller, lighter.
-this phone has 38 MB on its own, 512MB included and you can expand it up to 4GB and apparently they goin to make it support the 32GB memoery. Compare to the 8800 with its 64 MB and cannot be expanded anymore?
-lastly.... can you see that there are many of them switch from nokia to SE because of these phones: W800, K750, S700, K700 and T610?
W800 wins in every aspects against 8800, with a cheaper price and better features.
If you say that this phone is a waste of money.. you should go and bash your nokia to release 8800 which is not even worth 500 AUD!!!!!
menu > file manager > sounds >scroll down to your favourite artist . click on open album.. and select track for a ringtone .. real loud .. too
I got this phone yesterday and I have to say I was a little doubting about this one. I have been using nokia phones all my life and I loved them quite much. I have read preview reviews and don't want to start a nokia-sony debate. Nokia builds quality phones and I really thought they were the best. Then I read the camera test between W800 and N90 and loved the pictures taken with W800. A little more research showed me that it seemed to have better specs as well. I still doubted it though, for no better reason than its brand. I went to buy a phone and checked this one out and wow! This is gotta be the best phone on the market! nokia is good but nokias are overpriced and it is true that sony ericsson uses better technology. You see sony manifactured this one, it was a crime to doubt this one. Have been using sony walkmans al my life and they never failed me, sony makes quality products.
I don't know if this will make nokia-lovers rethink before they go out and buy a new phone but I was a nokia-lover as well. This phone is better than any nokia out there.
Please note that I do not use this phone for any business thing. It's just entertainment. You could go with a nokia smartphone if that is your purpose in buying the phone. But hey there's always I-Mate for those...
hey w800 rules,
whered u get ur phone? coz im going to buy one from the internet and im not sure if the settings for the WAP/internet would work. im in the US. coz i saw a post here from some1 who lives in cali who tried to get the settings from the SE site, but it didnt work. just wondering if u got yours from there too or u bought yours from a service provider? thanks