I have had both 3250 and W810i. Although I am generally a fan of Nokias, I found the 3250 to be inferior in terms of sound quality. The W810i had excellent quality sound, and much better functionality. I had no issues with dropped calls or call quality (in fact, the W810i - for a candybar phone - had excellent reception and call clarity). I also had no other bugs on the phone except sorting AAC files back to front. Other than that, it is one of the best handsets on the market.
By comparison, the 3250 is a very disappointing handset for me. It underperforms in terms of music and calls. I also find the design to be somewhat ugly, although (again) I am usually a fan of Nokia design. I hope Nokia improve their offering in their upcoming handsets.
If it was my money (and it has been...), I would buy the W810i without any question - I recommend anyone weighing the two up to buy the W810i. It is an excellent handset. If you are unlucky enough to experience f/w problems, I suggest either exchanging it for one with more recent f/w or updating it using SE's OTA f/w update function. I have had no problems with mine.
There is no such thing as perfect. It may be near perfect, but NOTHING in this world is perfect.
Im sure nobody will reply to this cause people write the most rediculous comments and questions on here, and most comments are ignored, thats why this forum wreaks and is weak, but my opinion is to buy the phone and take your chances that u may get one with software problems...
I got lucky and my phone works great with zero dropped calls, no flashlight problems, nothing..
W810 is perfect for u BUT a very BIG BUT it has astonishing BUGS, juz read d opinions of W810 owners here and u'll b AMAZED how many bugs this model has! NEVER listen to PcMan or to mr. spider Tarantula bcoz i've seen their posts and what can i say, they are HARD CORE BIG TIME sony ericsson FANATICS! if W810 has no bugs i'd recommend it to u BUT d BIG PROBLEM is, it has GENUINE software PROBLEMS confirmed by USERS! remember PcMan told u "Good luck" bcoz u probably also get a BUGGY unit! i don't want u to WASTE ur money and end up REGRETTING! get a better music phone NOT W810, u can try 3250, W800 or BenqSiemens or N91 if money is not a problem.. : )
if u've got brains then u should know y i said that, u've answered ur silly question! u said it right! can u please tell me and to EVERYONE here your CONCRETE PROOF that MOBILE-REVIEW gets their phones to be tested or tested DIRECTLY from the official brand! don't tell me u r working with them?!?! im not a nokia fan for sure coz i had panasonic, motorola and also SE phones like d stup*d K750i which i gave to my niece and right now d camera is NOT WORKING and d joystick its now broken and have to be replaced! one more thing y i said the tested unit by MOBILE-REVIEW was REALLY d UNFINALIZED and OLD firmware is the SEARCH function on the music library let me tell u this, 3250 HAS SEARCH FUNCTION in the music library, all 3250 owners and EVEN YOU can confirm that by just testing 3250 in REALITY and i QUOTE from MOBILE-REVIEW's MR. reviewer:
"Unfortunately I have some bad news for those who wanted to store a big collection of music on his Nokia 3250, there's NO SEARCH FUNCTION, you will have to scroll manually through the corresponding sections"
is that what u call a PROFESSIONAL review?!?! that's CLEARLY what i call a UNPROFESSIONAL and BIASED review i've ever SEEN! i just want everyone here to know that reviewers on NET can sometimes be VERY UNFAIR and BIASED and some of the reviewers DONT say d GENUINE features and does NOT even have d TIME do even CORRECT it once d REAL and new firmware is available! d CONCLUSIONS made by MOBILE-REVIEW are CLEARLY based from d UNFINALIZED and OLD firmware of 3250! and how do u know that nokia was REALLY the one who PROVIDED the tested unit by mobile-review? r u there personally and saw a nokia rep or d official brand importer gave 3250 to mobile-review to be tested??? and again, hu r u to tell me that i should b banned in here?? r u GSMarena?? u want more signs of d UNFINALIZED firmware?? i'll give u ONE MORE, look at the analogue clock its circle wyl on the NEW FIRMWARE its SQUARE and NOT circle! now tell me who's telling the TRUTH! the TRUTH will always PREVAIL! that UNFAIR review is USELESS!
Viperkid is a 3250 brick fan, for him this brick is the maximum expression and last generation of music phones, with top quality in all characteristics. Always says "Its a firmware problem".
But the phone is the problem, all reviewers sites (mobile-review, gsmarena, infosyncworld, etc) says this: 3250 HAS BAD SOUND.
He think sound is a firmware problem like imaging because the case of N90 with his mediocre CZ lenses, nokia correct the algorithm problem and photo quality increase almost the same as K750i.
But the true is: Sound quality is only a harware question, this feature cant correct with firmware upgrades or putting the best software, is only a matter of sound processors, you cant compare a PC with C-media sound chip with another with soundblaster audigy inside, the last one is the best choice for sure. Is the same case with 3250 and W810, simply W810 is better than 3250 in terms of sound quality and camera
@London I recommend you w810. N80 is much more expensive. Read some opinions from owners here and you will see this phone is astonishing. Good luck :)
don't listen to @viperkid he's Nokia fan,just look his posts in the 3250's section and you will understand.. As we can see most of the owners say thee is no problems,the phone is perfect,the best desighn,the best feutures,great display,batery and everything in it. The new,black earphones are superb,I thing they are better coloured than previous in w800 :) In w300 again they will be black as i know,but that doesn't matters so much.. w300 will be the next hit after w810.
@viperkid Why do you think as you said "UNFINALIZED firmware on that tested 3250"?!
Because one colour in the menu was different than todays models? Do you think Nokia will gave them unfinalized firmware?! Because mobile-review takes the models directly from the official brand importer,it's so easy understand it. Why do you think they have new models months before their market's start up?! So don't be st*pid,and don't write "don't buy w810,it have many bygs and etc.." when a lot of posts before is written it has no problems..Also the "in air update" support from SE,if you have a problem,for minutes you already don't have a problem.. that is the situation. You should be banned from SE's section. Go to Nokia's section and write how wonderful and N1 is 3250 and etc...ROFL.. Bye!
i DONT recommend this phone, it has too MANY software BUGS! but if ur willin to have a great camphone with flash and infrared plus great sounding music player with POOR music management BUT with problems as CONFESSED by the OWNERS in here, then buy W810. i recommend W800 or 3250 as a good substitute to this W810. though W800 has that stupid joystick and 3250 does not have infrared but has symbian OS and bigger screen physically plus a better video capture, they have NO major bugs like W810!
tell me and explain to me y that said review is professional! u don't call that kind of review a professional one, u know y? one, they've tested d UNFINALIZED firmware (don't need to say d details further coz i said it previously, wat r d basis y i said its d UNFINALIZED firmware on that tested 3250) therefore CONCLUSIONS made therein r TENTATIVE and based on d old firmware wyl d other brands like SE had the music player quality working 100% by then but take note on d other side no wonder this W810 has too many bugs bcoz SE perhaps forgot to fix bugs, and there are too MANY owners in here are COMPLAININ! and pls tel me wen did i say i praise mobile-review bcoz of their praises on some nokia models, i NEVER posted such a comment! just copy and paste! don't put words on my mouth just to big up SE and pretend and act that ur fair... PUBLISHING reviews on website based on d UNFINALIZED and OLD firmware that STAYS for a LONG TIME of a model is absolutely UNFAIR and BIASED that will MISLEAD fellas like u! is dat what u call PROFESSIONAL????? i dont think so! u better consult ur DICTIONARY and read d meaning of PROFESSIONAL, ok?? no wonder they have reviews 2,3 or 4 times b4 d model becomes available in d market as u said bcoz they are CLEARLY have OLD and UNFINALIZED firmware! saying a comment alone about brand image is a clear indication of how they favor a brand, they should not include that data in there bcoz it has nothing to do with d real performance, they juz cant stand y nokia is still d unbeatable no. 1 maker, thats it! juz take a look at their K800 review how many they have, see how many! they love SE phones! and how can u SURELY say those were d ones that really HAPPENED in their review, u were not even there PERSONALLY to PROVE it anyways! maybe u should shut up not me, not even GSMarena says so, so y say it to me? r u d owner of this site! HELLOOOO??? juz download N90's video links from mobile-review and u'll know wat i meant about being BIASED!
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I'd recommend this phone then. I have found the audio quality to be excellent and the MP3 player easy to use. It fits nicely in your hand and has a good battery life.
I haven't tried the N80 but it looks a bit chunky.
I want honest opinions guys, im looking for a new phone on upgrade, well ive been looking since december actually! and im torn between the n80 and the SE w810i. im not fussed about having a 3mp camera and wi-fi technology etc, i just want a nice phone that is a good size and has a nice colour screen that can play music and will be reliable and strong. what do you people think?
mmm i don't have any problem with the camera flash, in fact i don't have any problem, just that the phone is so good and people hates me for that
To owners: Please tell me the official SAR information in your manuels. Because in the interent version of the manuel hasn't the exactly value in w/kg Also in sonyercsson.com haven't any information especialy about that model. Thanks for the help.
"i pity u coz ur a victim of an UNFAIR review"
"HEAR SAY from UNPROFESSIONAL reviews"
"coz im 100% sure that they somewhat degraded d video capture of N90 and placed links on their site to say that N90's video is a crap but in REALITY its SUPERB!"
ROFL!!! Are you allright?! unprofessional review from mobile-review?! When they praise some Nokia's phone you would say their reviews ARE professioanl,but when they discover in great detail & fear review the reality about most Nokia phones(in that review for 3250 music features and potentiality and you say unfear and not professional review... ROFL Mobile-review`s team makes one of the best reviews in the net.. They are acknowledged from milions of people,brands and etc.. Why do you think they have phone reviews 2,3 sometimes even 4 months before those or that model come out in the market. Always without partiality and always fear equal comparisons netween models and etc. In the music review is clearly said why always Nokia's fans think that their sound quality is better,and always the Nokia is the best.. ROFL!
At the same time Nokia’s product received minimal mark for sound quality, when users did not see it. During the moment when they were listeingn to it and were able to see the phone itself, the marks were significantly higher. The reason for that is because Nokia’s brand is very popular and users are loyal to that. Their expectations of music phone are high and when they hear the actual quality, they believe that it’s just their faulty hearing, not faulty phone. Mismatch of sound and expectations leads to conclusion that user has something with his ears; he tries to hide that and give higher mark to the product. This is a clearly demonstrative experiment, which clearly demonstrates how percept of brand name grades flaws in realization of this or that function.
Now please! Shut up! Don't Expose and go writing in Nokia's section,there is a lot of your kind of person working about rising the Nokia's cult.. rofl
Viperkid your comments prove that you have obviously never used the W810i. The W810i does recognise MP3 ID tags and if you had bothered to look you can see that you can view your music by Album, Artist etc.
Now your next stupid comment about installing drivers. You just take the memory card out and plug it in if you have the socket, no need for drivers not a cable. What could be easier than that?
As to your coment about eAAC being better than OGG I suggest you read http://www.maresweb.de/listening-tests/mf-128-1/results.htm
where you will see that AAC quality varies greatly between encoders.
This section is for opionions on the W810i not constant posts about phone x is better than this phone blah blah especially from someone who has obviously not tried the phone in question.