@London I recommend you w810. N80 is much more expensive. Read some opinions from owners here and you will see this phone is astonishing. Good luck :)
don't listen to @viperkid he's Nokia fan,just look his posts in the 3250's section and you will understand.. As we can see most of the owners say thee is no problems,the phone is perfect,the best desighn,the best feutures,great display,batery and everything in it. The new,black earphones are superb,I thing they are better coloured than previous in w800 :) In w300 again they will be black as i know,but that doesn't matters so much.. w300 will be the next hit after w810.
@viperkid Why do you think as you said "UNFINALIZED firmware on that tested 3250"?!
Because one colour in the menu was different than todays models? Do you think Nokia will gave them unfinalized firmware?! Because mobile-review takes the models directly from the official brand importer,it's so easy understand it. Why do you think they have new models months before their market's start up?! So don't be st*pid,and don't write "don't buy w810,it have many bygs and etc.." when a lot of posts before is written it has no problems..Also the "in air update" support from SE,if you have a problem,for minutes you already don't have a problem.. that is the situation. You should be banned from SE's section. Go to Nokia's section and write how wonderful and N1 is 3250 and etc...ROFL.. Bye!
i DONT recommend this phone, it has too MANY software BUGS! but if ur willin to have a great camphone with flash and infrared plus great sounding music player with POOR music management BUT with problems as CONFESSED by the OWNERS in here, then buy W810. i recommend W800 or 3250 as a good substitute to this W810. though W800 has that stupid joystick and 3250 does not have infrared but has symbian OS and bigger screen physically plus a better video capture, they have NO major bugs like W810!
tell me and explain to me y that said review is professional! u don't call that kind of review a professional one, u know y? one, they've tested d UNFINALIZED firmware (don't need to say d details further coz i said it previously, wat r d basis y i said its d UNFINALIZED firmware on that tested 3250) therefore CONCLUSIONS made therein r TENTATIVE and based on d old firmware wyl d other brands like SE had the music player quality working 100% by then but take note on d other side no wonder this W810 has too many bugs bcoz SE perhaps forgot to fix bugs, and there are too MANY owners in here are COMPLAININ! and pls tel me wen did i say i praise mobile-review bcoz of their praises on some nokia models, i NEVER posted such a comment! just copy and paste! don't put words on my mouth just to big up SE and pretend and act that ur fair... PUBLISHING reviews on website based on d UNFINALIZED and OLD firmware that STAYS for a LONG TIME of a model is absolutely UNFAIR and BIASED that will MISLEAD fellas like u! is dat what u call PROFESSIONAL????? i dont think so! u better consult ur DICTIONARY and read d meaning of PROFESSIONAL, ok?? no wonder they have reviews 2,3 or 4 times b4 d model becomes available in d market as u said bcoz they are CLEARLY have OLD and UNFINALIZED firmware! saying a comment alone about brand image is a clear indication of how they favor a brand, they should not include that data in there bcoz it has nothing to do with d real performance, they juz cant stand y nokia is still d unbeatable no. 1 maker, thats it! juz take a look at their K800 review how many they have, see how many! they love SE phones! and how can u SURELY say those were d ones that really HAPPENED in their review, u were not even there PERSONALLY to PROVE it anyways! maybe u should shut up not me, not even GSMarena says so, so y say it to me? r u d owner of this site! HELLOOOO??? juz download N90's video links from mobile-review and u'll know wat i meant about being BIASED!
For every body who want some apps, themes, and I have around 400 games just send me an E-mail and I'll send it to you.
I'd recommend this phone then. I have found the audio quality to be excellent and the MP3 player easy to use. It fits nicely in your hand and has a good battery life.
I haven't tried the N80 but it looks a bit chunky.
I want honest opinions guys, im looking for a new phone on upgrade, well ive been looking since december actually! and im torn between the n80 and the SE w810i. im not fussed about having a 3mp camera and wi-fi technology etc, i just want a nice phone that is a good size and has a nice colour screen that can play music and will be reliable and strong. what do you people think?
mmm i don't have any problem with the camera flash, in fact i don't have any problem, just that the phone is so good and people hates me for that
To owners: Please tell me the official SAR information in your manuels. Because in the interent version of the manuel hasn't the exactly value in w/kg Also in sonyercsson.com haven't any information especialy about that model. Thanks for the help.
"i pity u coz ur a victim of an UNFAIR review"
"HEAR SAY from UNPROFESSIONAL reviews"
"coz im 100% sure that they somewhat degraded d video capture of N90 and placed links on their site to say that N90's video is a crap but in REALITY its SUPERB!"
ROFL!!! Are you allright?! unprofessional review from mobile-review?! When they praise some Nokia's phone you would say their reviews ARE professioanl,but when they discover in great detail & fear review the reality about most Nokia phones(in that review for 3250 music features and potentiality and you say unfear and not professional review... ROFL Mobile-review`s team makes one of the best reviews in the net.. They are acknowledged from milions of people,brands and etc.. Why do you think they have phone reviews 2,3 sometimes even 4 months before those or that model come out in the market. Always without partiality and always fear equal comparisons netween models and etc. In the music review is clearly said why always Nokia's fans think that their sound quality is better,and always the Nokia is the best.. ROFL!
At the same time Nokia’s product received minimal mark for sound quality, when users did not see it. During the moment when they were listeingn to it and were able to see the phone itself, the marks were significantly higher. The reason for that is because Nokia’s brand is very popular and users are loyal to that. Their expectations of music phone are high and when they hear the actual quality, they believe that it’s just their faulty hearing, not faulty phone. Mismatch of sound and expectations leads to conclusion that user has something with his ears; he tries to hide that and give higher mark to the product. This is a clearly demonstrative experiment, which clearly demonstrates how percept of brand name grades flaws in realization of this or that function.
Now please! Shut up! Don't Expose and go writing in Nokia's section,there is a lot of your kind of person working about rising the Nokia's cult.. rofl
Viperkid your comments prove that you have obviously never used the W810i. The W810i does recognise MP3 ID tags and if you had bothered to look you can see that you can view your music by Album, Artist etc.
Now your next stupid comment about installing drivers. You just take the memory card out and plug it in if you have the socket, no need for drivers not a cable. What could be easier than that?
As to your coment about eAAC being better than OGG I suggest you read http://www.maresweb.de/listening-tests/mf-128-1/results.htm
where you will see that AAC quality varies greatly between encoders.
This section is for opionions on the W810i not constant posts about phone x is better than this phone blah blah especially from someone who has obviously not tried the phone in question.
Hi Everyone, please anyone can advice me how to install applications on the W810, and where can I get some apps and games.
W810i is an excellent phone.Had a choice between 3250 and w810i and the seller told me to take the w810i as it is much better than the 3250 although it has a few bugs which will be fixed later.The loudspeaker is as good as the P910i with a little bass and much treble.
yes i know that problem 100%! my cousin recently bought W810 at Sony Square and also found d same problem u experienced plus more. all u can do for now is wait for a software update by SE. all W810 owners has that problem too plus more, so don't worry every W810 owner has that problem also, for those who are saying dey don't have d problem they r just denying d fact that it has stupid bugs as of now and to justify d amount of money they paid for W810!
OGG is great but eAAC+ is definitely BETTER in quality! u know deep inside of u that u have not tried eAAC+ to say those baseless comments. W810 really has poor music management, u know y, all u get in the folder of w810 is pile of MESSY music files and u still need to MANUALLY create playlists just to categorize em unlike with 3250 (provided u've entered necessary info when ripping) it recognized ID3 tags as a result 3250 can categorize by album, artist, composer and genre! plus d fact that 3250 can do a search on d music library by artist, album, song etc like what u do on ur phonebook, dat's what i call excellent music management! plus there's no need to install addl drivers just to enable ur PC to recognize ur phone as a USB mass storage which is very fast in tranferring files opposite with W810. can W810 do that all??? all d reviews i've read does not even know how to update music library on 3250 plus d fact that they did not mention d search function on music library so they can say that 3250 has poor music management which is NOT true at all! we can even meet personally and let's see who can change tracks between tracks as many times in a minute! i bet that W810 will surely loose to 3250, wat do u expect if u'll try to find a track in all ur songs (e.g. 400) by just playlists and not by searching! also, codecs like eAAC+ is used for maximizing precious space and let me tell u that eAAC+ tracks has a quality of around 94% of that original source believe it or not with a space of approximately 1.5mb only! i agree with u that a phone needs to be well balanced not just by strong in one point or two, for me W810 has great camera but not video, good music overall but not great and poor communication functions (e.g. drop calls, reliability, msging, phonebook does not allow saving multiple fields under a name like 3 office nos, 2 home nos etc. in one name) for me 3250 is a more balanced feature-set cellphone in its price range! do u want me to send u an email with a track, one encoded with AAC 128kpbs and one with eAAC+ 48kbps so u'll really know wat im talkin about re their quality!?!?! about earphones, HS20 that came in d box works great if u know how to make d proper settings on 3250s equalizer, NONE of GSMarena (mobilmania), mobile-review and not even Infosync world has made d right audio settings! besides, mobilmania's and mobile-review's review of 3250 is ENTIRELY based on a UNFINALIZED and OLD firmware of 3250!
I have one question in this phone when you turn on the light or the came light some times start flashing and I can't take any phonto anyone of you know something about this problem?
Supporting more audio formats does not make it a better phone. OGG is the best lossy audio format followed closely by MP3, AAC and WMA. File size will always come down to whatever quality you are prepared to put up with.
As to your comment that the W810i has poor music management I disagree. It's easy to create a playlist and just as easy to navigate around it whilst playing music.
As to the quality of the loudspeaker I ask why does it matter? The only thing the loudspeaker is for is ringtones. Anybody really wanting to listen to music will use headphones. I mean how many MP3 players, such as iPod and YEPP, have a loudspeaker?
When all is said and done a phone needs to be well balanced and not just strong in one area and this is where Sony excels. Because they have dedicated walkman R&D and dedicated camera (Cybershot) R&D they have the people and the knowledge to make the phones good in both these areas and it shows. Nokias main problem is they are just a phone company and mobile phones are now more than just phones.
it depends, if u want a better overall music player, quality and management go with 3250 bcoz it supports more formats making it more a space saver, it supports eAAC+ and WMA (eAAC+ consumes around 1.5mb only 1 full track with 94% quality compared to original source) plus it has "real" dedicated music keys that works 100% don't believe GSMarena (originally from mobilmania) that twisting mechanism does not work they also know in REALITY that it works perfectly plus d fact that they ADMITTED having tested d older version. plus music/file transfers are definitely faster than W810. 3250's video capture is better than W810 everybody knows that plus u can edit videos! otherwise if u want a great camera phone go with W810 bcoz it has auto focus and flash but remember it does not support eAAC+ only AAC (d size is around 3.5mb per song) let's say u have 2GB mem stick when compared to 3250s 1GB microSD u can still have more songs in 3250 in eAAC+ format than W810's AAC and quality of files are almsot d same! screen aspect, 3250 is bigger in surface though has less pixels. 3250 has symbian OS, it means u can install (in the near future) more apps/games in 3250 than W810 bcoz networks nowadays has more apps/games offered to symbian phones than non symbian based phones! if infrared is that important to u, forget 3250 go get W810. in short if u want an excellent phone with great overall music player and an average camera with better video recording (than W810) get 3250. on d other hand if u want a great camphone, decent music player (with poor music management), and an average phone (features, e.g. call, txts, missed calls, dropped calls) performer go get W810 and of course currently d said complaints about bugs on this W810!
yeah, i admit it, nokia is louder than SE, but anyways, people who want to have a "music phone" i guess is to carry their music anywhere in anytime, i mean, to have their music for they own; it's like ipod, with an ipod you just can listen to your music by headphones. In the other side, math me (like you sayed) if it isn't true that sony ericsson alway have had much better cameras than any nokia?? and that the design of this phone in real life it's really awesome!! and again i say, in the case you want to share your music, this phone has the external loudspeakers included in the package
of course, nokia has its own external loudspeakers and im talking about internal loudspeakers (on d phone itself) NOT d external one! no, im not envy to SE's enhancements, its d other way around, perhaps ur just insecure..
W810's loudspeaker has no match to 3250's loudspeaker believe it or not! i've tested em head to head and i found out that both sound quality and loudness in it is definitely better than W810! i challenge everyone here to disagree, u know that guys pretty well in REALITY! to those who will disagree, i must say that u have not tried 3250 in REAL life and ur basis are those unfair and based from UNFINALIZED firmware of 3250 reviewed by mobile-review (txts in music player is black but in d newer version its white) and GSMarena (originally from mobilmania) and even admitted having tested d older firmware bcoz of the twisting mechanism its not working they said but in REALITY its working 100%, 3250 owners can back me up on this! plus d fact that GSMarena (originally from mobilmania) said 3250 starts up at HALF MINUTE thats totally NOT TRUE bcoz in REALITY it only takes 15 seconds! i challenge GSMarena to disagree (even mobilmania) let's see who's telling the TRUTH! also take note that default settings on 3250 are not any good i think that's y mobilmania said d sound on 3250 remained lame even when using a different earphone, i think they've used d default settings and never had d patience to properly set d right settings, mobilmania i can even email u the best audio settings so u'll know how 3250 really sounds!