now guys, i dont know much about phones, but i know that you are taking it a bit too far, Nokia and SE are both the leading phone companies, u just cant normaly compare it, each company has it's own way of making phones! And if u both are really so smart, u should understand that phones are thinner every day, with new capabilities! No phone nowaday is made to last 10 years or something, every company changes with time, and about the camera, sure, nice to have a good camera on your phone, but if u want crystal clear pics, GET A REAL CAMERA! And just to clear things up, i'm not on Nokia side here, nor SE, I just care about the damn phones, a few weeks ago, i wanted the N80, but i like W810 better, and i didnt want to wait too long for N80 (Nokia anounces phones a bit too early). So pls, STOP spamming which company is better and leave each other alone!!!... So how does the W810 screen look like? :)
i think it will be da best phone in da whole history .. im jusy waiting it 2 come in da market
they should add a cover for the camera as it'll get dust over it if exposed. That's what i experienced with my SE K700i
viperkid- about the speakerphone i was just giving an example. w800 dropping is not of my concern anymore. if you are telling the truth about him dropping it from close range, then maybe it is just not supposed to be dropped, period.
about the phonebook we will have to wait and see. but you can ask that other dude who says that he has it.
Just a reminder-THIS IS THE W810 FORUM. if you want to talk about other phones then go to those forums. bring your comments good and bad but plz talk about the w810 not the w900. we have left the w900 forum behind so you can go talk to someone there and not bother us. but keep up the SIMON COWEL like comments
to VIPERKID and STRIKER- b professional, not personal. we are here to discuss phones. not how someone types and whether we like them or not. stop wasting valueable opportunities to argue about nonsence.
i hope W810 can change covers easily.
oops, my mistake. msg "2006-01-29 18:58 TSFk" is for Striker.
of course i know dat! well i bet u also know for sure Sony Ericsson is doing it too like releasing K750, W800, W810 with almost d same features only with minor differences and d fugly part almost same design! so as the P990, announced quite for some time now, still not out, oh well, look who's talking?? i don't think nokia fanatics have been duped already coz they know d upcoming models, unlike with SE released a model then after a few months a model with same feature with a bit more comes, now what happens to SE fanatics who bought K750, then W800 appeared they felt so tricked now that's what i call marketing strategy for PROFIT! i think ur biased, cuz u don't see ur favorite brand SE doing it, at least me i admitted dat's part of nokia's mktg strategy. im not lying to anyone, its kinda (again) d opposite! let me remind u, u said b4 and announced to everybody that SE had d first auto-focus function on a mobile phone then u found out later dat's its not true, and could not provide any link, (poor u) it was panasonic, and try to cover urself by saying 'at least here in UK' [a phrase like dat from u] but then u know we're talking about world's first, oh, now everybody, look who's lying!
re durability in nokia, well dat's ur opinion, i respect it. as d old saying "u can't please everybody" (nokia can't please u anymore) hahaha (i imitated ur rudeness there). never worry, remember ur wrong info about d first auto-focus thing in a mobile..? perhaps u almost had a heart attack then after being proven wrong, oh well.. back to ur msg, i never said sony is not a reputable brand name and can't guarantee decent quality, please watch ur mouth! read carefully, patiently & wisely wat i said, ok? again, u don't understand, i never used d word "associate" wat i used was "comparing" (r u blind?, u even pasted it..) and never told u or mentioned Sony does not equate to a reputable brand name and besides its not about reputable name in particular of my sentence i was reffering to there but clearly about how they set their price (again, ur LOST, OMG!) u said ur foolish, not me. maybe u should do d reality check bcoz ur so lost dude. i did not say d camera on W800 is a piece of junk right away, i said:
"if only a drop of (W800) [relatively not that high] and camera = piece of junk"
now, do u get it? again, what i was talking about there is d durability men and nothing to do with its quality or superbness of d images taken with W800 camera! u don't hav to tell me, i know for a fact SE cams is better than nokia's. now u tell me im stupid for giving a child a SE W800, well i just thought Sony Ericsson phones are that durable so i trusted to give my nephew one (im sure ur happy to hear im saying SONY Ericsson than SE alone Mr. Pedantic! even in reality for me, u, Ken2.5, TheOneDazz & Co., SE or SONY Ericsson are the same, oh dat idea of urs has no sense!). i don't find anything wrong about wat i said about u being a D600 user even u confirmed it that u became one and never said u chose D600 over W900 or this W810 i just said:
"dat's y u just apparently resorted to Samsung D600"
pls point to me y am i wrong saying that u became a D600 user! drink ur milk and sleep early ok, so maybe next tym u'll know finally wat r we talking about.
The W810 will be available on O2, no release date as yet however, but will possibly be within 2 months.
And Viperkid, as for your opinion of Nokia's announce-release policy - "they're doing it for us" ha ha ha ha ha awwwwww aren't Nokia just the sweetest and most considerable people???? Viperkid, do you really think they're doing it for the people? They do it for PROFIT. Its so they can appear ahead of their competition to whichever gullible goons will believe them. Remember, many moons ago when Nokia announced the "Ipod killing N91" This was seen as the benchmark. A music phone of the future. Since that announcement we've had the W800 released, the W900 announced and released, the ROKRs, the I300, and I'm sure we'll see the W810 before the N91 too. Nokia get their fanatics drooling over pictures of phones of the future and lie to them with a promise of "coming soon" then by the time they're released they're in line with the current market! The fanatics should then realise they've been duped yet they don't. They just part with their money while drooling over the next "coming soon" (N80 anyone???)
C'mon Viperkid, stop lying to everyone and yourself and admit you're biased towards Nokia. I'm man enough to say I'm biased towards SE - Too right I am. I like SE's phones, and I trust any manufacturuer who have Sony onboard. They don't mislead customers with empty promises, and every SE I've had has served me well. I can't stand Nokia and will not give them another penny of my money as long as I live. They've sold their client base down the river by going from a manufacturer of excellent durable quality phones to profit-hungry, customer-misleading, mass producers of dispasable rubbish with abysmal customer service. They dupe their customers into thinking they're still the Nokia of 10 years ago, but you show me 1 Nokia of today that'll still be going strong in 10 years. Like it or not Viperkid, they ain't what they used to be, so yeah, I'm biased against Nokia. So what? Thats my opinion, and even though you seem scared to admit you're biased too, you're just as much entitled to yopur opinion as I am.
But don't go lying about it while trying to disguise it as honest, unbiased advice cos its clearly not. Why are you even here, on the Sony ericsson forums when all you can do is praise Nokia and slate SE? You're here again and again and again, stirring up arguments with SE users, making personal, impolite and abusive remarks, Why???? Calm it down Viperkid.
Why don't you leave any posts on the forum of your beloved N80? I got to page 10 of that forum before I gave up looking for a post from you. So basically, you only come to GSMArena to come to the SE forums and stir up trouble. Go away Viperkid and come back when you grow up a little.
Jo & Viperkid:
Firstly, I couldn't agree more about the early Nokia phones. Amazingly durable, and yeah, some 10yr old Nokia models are still going today. Superb. But THIS is exactly the reputation Nokia have been riding on the back of ever since, and these 10yr old durable diamonds are why Nokia still sell as many phones as they do and why they are the No1 seller. Since the days of producing hard-wearing durable, functional mobile phones (When I was just as big a Nokia fan as you two), they've turned to mass-producing disposable rubbish. People DO still associate Nokia with the reliable, durable Nokia of yesteryear, but not me. They're just not the same company any more. Or at least the quality ain't there any more with the vast majority of their products, and we all know it.
Jo, you show me where you got the info that 5/10 SEs come with problems. I don't think you can. Yet the unbiased Viperkid calls your post "proof" ha ha ha ha whatever.
And Viperkid, Calm down fella you'll give yourself a heartattack. So, in you're usual polite, unbiased and friendly way, you said I'm wrong in saying that Sony is a reputable brand name and guarantees decent quality...erm, sorry, but you'll find I'm right on that one. oh, and I quote "how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony" ha ha ha ha Viperkid are you winding me up???? Say the following 2 words out loud: SONY Ericsson. Say it again Viperkid - SONY Ericsson. So, you tell me not to associate Sony with SE, you tell me Sony doesn't equate to a reputable brand name, you give a W800 (one of the best cameraphones available) to a child who drops it and wonder why the auto-focus gets broken, yet I associate Sony with SE and I'm the foolish one???? Reality check Viperkid.
The camera on the W800 is not "a piece of junk". You'll see from this GSMarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/review.php3?idReview=46&idPage=2 that the W800,K750,W900 & W810 camera beats the Nokia "flagship Carl Zeiss blah blah blah" camera hands down. So don't come here telling people who want unbiased advice that SE's are bad because you had the stupidity to give one to a child who broke it. And you're wrong about another thing. I became a D600 user as that was the best and most valuable handset available free of charge on my network's contract upgrade. I'd had my S700i for over a year and wanted to change it. I knew I'd get good money for the D600 on Ebay when the W900 was released. Then the W810 came along and yeah, although the screen is disappointing to me, this is what I reckon I'll have next. So there's an insight into my personal life for you viperkid, showing that yet again, you do not have a single clue what your talking about-so STOP making assumptions about people who you know nothing about ok?
cheers jo! :)
another proof about a manufacturer's durability in their products!
at last, EDGE on a walkman phone, i hope d phone's mem & sim's memory (in phonebook) can be shown at d same time and can save more than 1 on each field under a name unlike with previous models.
just tell me and explain seriously to me y am i biased as wat u said. give me examples of my previous posts that u think was biased. what i only said and will say is just the plain truth. i don't invent, imagine, censure any gadget or brand or even big up on something (evidently, a certain dude out there had an info b4 which he/she thought d 1st one to come up w/ such a function on a mobile phone but in d real world his/her info was not TRUE as a result, ended up ashamed) without any true basis (from trusted sources, etc) and/or enough experience on a product. wat do u want me to do, big up SE W900 against 6280 even the latter gives better encoding and decoding of videos (VGA of 6280 vs QVGA of W900) even W900 is absolutely more expensive?!?! pls let me remind u of d topic (since u've joined and startlingly called me biased) here it is:
"who can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video, bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
now tell me and point to me y r u calling me biased!
maybe a real hardcore SE fanatic (on this forum) u can really call biased, (just to justify his/her beloved brand) like:
"SE will have 16m colours in their phones when they feel that it is a neccesity. what is the point of having 16m colour on a tiny screen. anyway on a small screen 256k is enough."
"about hearing, your friend can ust use his speakerphone if he is deaf in his one ear.
how can you change from a w800 to e398 and call it reliable. and why the hell would you give a small child such an expensive phone. forget about phone quality, that is ust irresponsibility"
that's what u call biased. (again, those 2 last msgs r from a hardcore SE fanatic). probably by now u'll know 4sure what d word biased really is.. about problematic handsets, maybe ur right that nokia is d #1 list on it, but had it ever glimpse on ur mind in d long 7 years in a telecommunications field for a fact dat maybe bcoz nokia is d #1 handset maker and virtually has more than a quarter of d mobile phone market in d whole world! wat do u expect, SE having more problematic units than nokia even SE having a small market share compared to nokia. its just a simple statistic u know! with that said, perhaps we don't need to go by numbers... (w8, don't try to call me biased, otherwise prove it to me wat i have said in there is not true, then u can call me truly biased) peace out!
this phone is way better than K750 for me, it's a lot nicer, does any1 know when it comes out in europe? and how good is the screen resolution?
Viperkid, u r a hard core NOKIA fan and u r biased so as litle people,
i dont if u really convinced ut self of the NOKIA's high quality superiority, or u know its untrue and try to convince the others for it.
If u have any idea about what a mobile is and what determines its quality and why NOKIA is superior to this field than i chalenge u to enlighten me too, i ve been in the telecomunications field 7years and i know people that can give acces to the numbers of problematic handsets of NOKIA,SIEMENS,SE,SAMSUNG etc
guess wich company is in the first place?
how ever i believe this prooves nothing,
but if u wish we go by numbers...
i think it's a fantastic phone although i've never seen it before but i consider sony ericsson w810 as more fascination than nokia phone and i like the design that is simply gorgeous
"Can nokia offer that same guarantee and respected brand name?"
of course! they are the best in that. i seen nokia phones with 10 years old and still working!, and not one, LOTS!!
that SE can't do, 5/10 SE phones comes with problems.
Hi can anyone tell me if this phone is coming out in Europe. Ive seen it on Carphone Warehouse website but i thought this was planned for America only ? Can someone correct me please?
this is gorge, its definitely the badger! it sneds shivers down my spine. Please put on a picture of the 'fusion white' model! Cheers
I see this phone being sold on ebay. But I thought that it is not released yet, how can that be possible? I also asked a seller if I need to wait for it to be released until they ship it, but he said that he has it available now. Are these legitimate phones? Would appreciat it if someone could shed some light on the issue.