let us be real boys and girls, cause there is no comparison between SE phones and Nokias. the SE design is a crash, whenever you touch the case there is a lot o noise as if it is on the point to break itself. I don't want this in my phone. by comparison to this, nokias are a lot firmer, you don't her a single noise in the case. of course, there are son exceptions in the old nokia but who buys? another important thing is the exchangeable covers that you can put in - the original - and you have another phone for different situations. SE has the best camera indeed but when you buy a phone you don't put on the first place a camera, you want a phone. that's why they are not called cameras with an option like phone calls but phones with an option like cameras. don't you agree? and this one looks completly like a brick.
it was not my intention to disrespect Striker, u see, its just that every1 deserves a true/believable information such as who had the first auto-focus function on a mobile phone. and what i just posted there is not to disrespect striker but to tell him and others like u that what he said is not true regarding that matter. Panasonic may not be the first to have auto-focus on mobile industry (as what Panasonic is claiming on their website) but still its clear that Panasonic was earlier to have auto-focus on cellphones than Sony Ericsson or "Ericsson" as what striker eloquently been saying..
if in any situation, u felt that i've disrespected u, that's not what i meant (as u can see above) but in case... accept my "sorry" if i did disrespect u. but as u can see facts are facts no one can change it, like of what u said who invented bluetooth - Ericsson, a fact that cannot be changed forever. :)
locally and/or internationally recognized/popular or not, as long as it is a mobile phone it doesn't change the fact that Panasonic was earlier in releasing mobile phones with auto-focus function than Sony Ericsson. nice to see/hear from u again (too)..
please someone tell me the difference between w900 and the w800i and the point
i seriously don't know whats da difference between this and the ever more brilliant w800i but i think its ridicolus that thay keep on releasing phones dat are plain similar to each other
y u all guys r worried dat n80 doesnt have autofocus...well it does hav close-up mode(form 17.5 cm to 23.4 cm) & a normal mode(from 68 cm to infinity) see it here
n i dont think dat its dat bad...but not as good as autofocus though....but it will still focus close objects n give us sharp focussed pictures....so i dont thing it is much of a problem...as long as we r getting sharp closeup pics...
correct me if im wrong..bout this thing....as i've not used digital cameras much...so i dont know much bout autofocus(but kno dat much dat it focuses automatically...duh)....n guys...give me mature replies...coz i dont want ur opinions if those a biased towards ne company...thanx
viperkid nice to see you again. i guess this is round 2 of our ongoing battle. do we really have to start about all these details. i personally do not care whether SE or Samsung gave us the first autofocus camera in a phone. all i know is that it was more internationally recognized in the SE that was what AMH or striker was referring to.
also to point out that if you looked at my reviews that were posted and deleted, they are very good. you also had this experience so stop. please. for all.... of us.
anyway. it is a shame that the n80 does not have autofocu., but with that lens and picture quality it will be very hard to notice.
again we're talking about phones not digital cameras! ok, i'll be over u, phone with 3mpx cam with reasonable price vs phone with 2mpx cam but more expensive of that 3mpx, which of 'em gives you more? now let's see who's illogical. get a grip!
Viperkid, be real man, cameras are a part of mobile phones whether you like it or not! and you out of all people would choose a phone with a better camera quality on a phone with poor camera with the same other functions.
And dont talk about old ericsson phones with 1 character. Thatīs so, i dont know what to call it.
Anyways be logical man.
Viperkid, close this subject about comparision, i didnīt compare the w900i, i said itīs a shame such phone with such feature to lack Autofocus.
And do apologize to striker even if he didnīt supply the links, because you should know that what you said disrespected the man.
no in (old SE phones), u can't save other phone nos. in other pages inside each contact, cuz those pages i believe is for postal address, etc.. well its definitely not a big mistake for a phone (like N80) to have 3mpx cam w/out autofocus its more likely a big mistake for a phone to only save 1 entry of each field (i.e. 1 office #, 1 cell #, home #, etc under 1 name) in a phonebook! and AMH don't forget we're talking about phones here not digital cameras! is that clear?!?! we're not in a digital camera forum we're on a mobile phone forum! oops i forgot older phonebooks in SE phones can only accept 1 character when searching names which is very ineffective especially when u have 20 entries under a letter, annoying!
i just love the side kick and the music player. the W900 is a wonderfull phone, it the best i know. keep it up S-E.
Oh Viperkid there you go again comparing this phone with the N80.
How many times: UNFAIR COMPARISON the N80 isn't out for months whereas the W900 is out in a couple of weeks. Knock it off Viperkid its getting boring now.
As for supplying links, I'm at work at the moment with restricted web access which is why I only give links on some posts (the ones I do from home) and not others (work).
Unlike you Viperkid, I don't get any pleasure from unfairly influencing others with biased views. And I don't appreciate being called a liar. What I say comes from research I've done and my own personal preferences and opinions. You'll get your links when I have the time at home. And I expect an apology from you when I prove u wrong (again).
In the meantime, stop comparing your beloved N80 with this phone cos your unfairly influencing peoples judgement. How many times do you need telling this?
Well actually what i know about ericsson is that they were the first with color screen phone and the first with MMS, and the first who made bluetooth possible. And striker told about the Autofocus, why not to believe him, cause honestly Viperkid, the K750 was the first phone i ever heard to come with autofocus.
Second Viperkid. Sony is the world largest leader in electronic techonology, now why do you think after a long study, they chose a partner as Ericsson?
You do the math..
oh no, not WLAN capable, if it has WLAN then maybe it can compete with N80.
don't believe all what Striker is saying, like:
"the first auto-focus camera in a phone? the list goes on. The answer to all those questions is Ericsson"
ask for me, to see is to believe! did striker put any links to prove his claims? the answer for now is, striker did not post any links with regards to what he said, its entirely a myth! FYI, Panasonic P505iS is the world's first camera phone with auto-focus function! plus a CCD sensor. SE K750i was only available approximately between Q2 - Q3 of 2005 while Panasonic P505iS was available way back last Nov 2003! here's the link.
now tell me AMH if you can still believe Striker for that matter! perhaps Striker made that conclusion to make his favorite brand better than other brands! he thinks that he knows everything about the mobile history but apparently some of his claims are just not true! outrageous!
Well viperkid, you might be right about the joystick with some SE phones, but not all.
And about the message reading part in the SE and Nokia, I have a SE Z800 and my wife has 6230i, when i am reading a message i scroll down all the time without noticing even when am not fnished from the text on one page, and i find it comfortable, i tried the nokia, and i couldnīt cause i pressed down and it jumped to another text in the sms, which i find it very irritating.
A VERY CLEAR point Viperkid.
i dont think anyone wants to discuss such small detail, i mean in the end such thing such details a person can adapt to very quickly, about the phone book, you can save up to three numbers directly, Home Office, Mobile, and i think you can save other phone numbers in other pages inside each cotact.
But hey is that true what i heard about the N80, a 3mp camera with no autofocus!!! thatīs a big time mistake for a phone with such functions...
I think this model will allow multiple fields in the phonebook. I used the S700i for a year or so and that had multiple fields.....and from what I've read the UI on the W900i isn't a million miles from that of the S700i so I can't see them moving backward on this.
Personally, one of the main reasons I like the newer SE phones is the joystick. The sticks on the T610 and T630 were absolutely terrible and I think SE learned from this. The S700 is without doubt the most user friendly phone I've ever used and the direction key (cant really call it a joystick cos it isn't one) was superb. The W900 direction key looks similar which pleases me (although from the pics it does look slightly inverted unlike the S700 which was flat)
With regard to what you said about it being more tiring to read a message on an SE cos it takes more presses to scroll down. Tiring??? How lazy are you man??!!?? Ha ha ha!!
this model will be better if it can save more than 1 entry for every field (e.g. older SE models like K500i can only save a less effective 1 home phone no. only, 1 cellular no. only, 1 office no. only, etc.. in a name) for me it's very essential to have 2 or more office nos., cell nos., email addresses, etc. saved under 1 name, this is one of the big reasons why i hate sony ericssons plus the fact that you can't make both SIM & phone memory phonebook appear at the same time which is very inconvenient! also, when reading messages, each press of the more or down cursor only one line (of texts) appears which makes it more tiring if you're reading a long message cuz u have to press more or down many times juz to read the whole message unlike with nokia each press of the down cursor takes u to the next unread paragraphs therefore making it faster for u to read d whole message contrary with SEs showing texts which has been read already at the topmost part of the screen and giving u only one line of text to read for each press of down cursor! one more thing, SE's joysticks are very uncomfortable to use and not that precise! good W900i doesn't have a joystick (sigh)! i think SE realized that their joysticks aren't that good.
leo-apparentlye it will be released just in time for christmas.
invincible- haven't we had this aguement before
chill-nokia has been around for ever, and look what they make.SE have been around for 6 years and look at what wonderful phones they have already made
DPM- swivel and why cant these people be as clever as you.
2Zu3(no name)-you are right invicible is a little illogical+p series is wonderful
jake- around christmas time or just before. the sound quality isabsolutely amazing.
Dreadnought-who are you,and where have you been this past year.
AMH- this is a small price to pay for uploading music
Striker- you are right about the camera's
TO ALL.- phone will released just before christmas intenationally.
also to invincible- all the manufacturers have such wonderful camera's. you are hear bragging about how nokia has having a 3mp camera. oh wait when isthat coming out. oh ya. next year. what are the other manufacturers doing? oh i wonder. wait SE, motorola, siemens, sharp will allbe developing better camera's which will come out on their phones. they will have no bugs in them an would be the same or better than in the nokia.
(OH UST TO POINT OUT_SAMSUNG ALREADY HAS A 5MP CAMERA-so do not brag. dont even reply that it is only for sale in korea. that just means that they have something more innovative to show the whole world.)
Yeah, I saw the 7370 - don't think much of it to be honest. IMHO the design is awful. Also needs a more memory, a card slot and a better camera too if its gonna compete with other phones of the same form factor. I think Nokia need to leave swivel phones alone, I think they missed the mark completely with the 7370.......