Chill.....What option did SE have? They HAD to release the pics or risk losing the entire P Series market share to Nokia cos they'd already announced their N&E series and got everyone dreamin and drooling. Common Sense really - They'll only do it if they have to.
u all guys r saying...nokia fones r released so late after..their announcement...well i shud remind u guys dat p990 was announced in oct 2005. n is goin to release in may 2006 or maybe later...its all bout 7-8 months...now dats pretty early for u...isnt it????????????
Have we all seen the pics of the new 3mp Carl Zeiss NSeries on the homepage of GSMarena???? Gotta be said, 3mp, 3 x optical zoom - it looks like a little beauty.
But it backs up what I've been saying over and over again on this forum - yet another product of the Nokia Marketing Machine. We'll not see that phone for a long long time but I guess it gives the Nokia fans something else to dream about and unjustifiable compare with other phones that are technologically 6-12 months behind it.
Message to Nokia - how about releasing some kit before flooding the market with any more pics, you're not being fair to your customers or your competitors.
i felt like nokia is trying to show off lately... but actually they just announce the fone!!! they will only release the fone next year (which time SE will be coming up with also of equal quality.. quick announcement are just for showing off.. nokia nokia... they realise that they are loosing customer) poor nokia..
What you said is 100% true about the E70
and also about consumers buying a phone that complies to their needs and their budget.
Take me as an example, im an IT engineer, i have my laptop most of the time, and also a PDA, so i dont need a smartphone that can read Office packs as word, excel, and so on.
and i import pictures to my laptop in the need of designing webpages and adds also, and im a music lover.
So i dont want to carry a phone and a camera and a MP3 player.
On the Other hand, SE provided me with a phone such as the Walkman series, that has the best camera in the market, and the best Mp3 player, with a USB caple and system in the phone in which where ever i am, i just plug the USB cable, or use the stable Bluetooth connection, and this new System that SE developed, wont force you to use any installation driver so the PC can read the files in your phone, and do file transfer.
Nokia did provide a phone with a good camera and a good MP3 player, well not so far with the MP3 player, because i tried the N70 and the 6230i, and the conclusion was the SE Z800 which i have, has a better sound quality.
SE gave you everything what nokia gives except for the symbian system in the Walkman series, but also gave you a better MP3 player, and a better autofocus function, and the ability to charge your phone while it is connected to a PC through the USB cable.
I respect nokia, and SE.
But at the END, am a consumer, and it´s my money im paying, if Nokia provide me a phone with the same battery life or better, and a better MP3 player and camera, at a cheaper price, i´ll buy it. I wont stick to SE, as i said it´s my money im burning, so far SE is the only Provider that can give me what i need.
Striker, I am afraid that I am not blindly defending Nokia here. And in the long run, it doesnt count who invented what, I mean SE didnt come up first with mobile phone itself, they just mounted different features on them. And so does Nokia. And thats what the competition today is about - features...
Yes, but their main competitor is not the Communicators, their main competitors are the newer phones. The E-series for example, the new E70 has quite much the very same features plus larger screen resolution, "hotswap", "push-to-talk, EDGE, VoIP and a far more attractive design.
But honestly, ordinary people dont purchase expensive smartphones such as the E70 or P990. They want cheaper, more stylish phones with as much useful features as possible. We are talking about middle-class smartphones ment to more casual people. These are for example the 3230 or 3250 (same OS as in P990). Some people might also apreciate durability in their mobiles, for example the 5140. I have understood that SE doesnt have much of these phones, correct me if I am wrong. I mean, I dont think a hunter or wakeboarder wants to take his K750 to the wet woods or out to the sea...
Striker, i hope the W900 wont be reliesed only to Three networks in Dk
I wont buy it then, I hate three man. You feel like you are a walking advertising Three guy with a three phone in your hand.
And three started now decustomization to the sub menus of all phones, including the SE phones, so basically it´s more like Vodafone now, all phones have the same submenu icon.
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Who invented bluetooth? who had the first color screen? the first MMS? the first sub-menus? the first auto-focus camera in a phone? the list goes on. The answer to all those questions is Ericsson. that's what they've achieved.
Do some research before you start blindly defending Nokia.
Well if you take the New P990
It is a 3G phone, with great audio and camera plus Radio RDS
And the P990 is the first phone with UIQ 3.0
and first phone with Symbian OS v9.1
And it also ha a WLAN. With a long battery life.
These phones are direct competitors to the nokia 9300 and Nokia 9500 with a functions never found on these nokia phones.
Well, if I would like to buy a smartphone with great audio and a great camera for a reasonable price? Lets take the Nokia 3250 for example? What has SE to provide there?
About the P-series, I am curious, what makes you think the P-series are superior in the smartphone market? They even miss 3g and are almost as big as the old Nokia 9500 Communicator and still has a small keyboard... If you want a smartphone and SE only provides you with the P-series which are huge, costy and rather weird looking.
The competition is harder than ever but I dont see any huge breaktrough coming...
I would like to add that SE has the best Bluetooth Implementation in mobile phones in the market, and most stable Bluetooth connection, with the most advanced features in it.
And Bluetooth is a must to many consumers now days.
Actually. It´s not just the best camera phones in the market, with the best Music player.
Take also the smartphones, nokia started their smartphones since 6600, untill now, the SE P series, which is P800, P900, P910, and the next one which is comming soon the P990, P series have always been the top leader of smart phones in the market.
If you want to buy a phone with the best camera and the best audio, you can buy the SE W series.
If you want to buy a smart phone, you can always have the Top leader of smartphone in the market, the SE P series.
Im saying from references and many mobile review site, not my own opinion.
Interesting, so you think that within a few years Nokia have thrown aside and SE have taken over the market. Well, what remarkable have SE REALLY achieved this far? Hmm... A camera that is a bit better than the Nokia ones? A phone that has the text "Walkman" and comes with a Music Player? If such great deeds will raise SE to the top I must say that I would be rather suprised...
For the first no one said that SE is kicking Nokia´s ass for two years
if you read more carefully, then you will know that i said sony ericsson is giving the same good quality products for the past two years with a cheaper price, and according to european telecommunication statistics, SE consumers have grown double as much as it was two years ago, and Nokia consumers are growing less, and not far long, SE will dominate th european market.
The N80 will cost no less than 800$
take the N90 as example, a bulky phone with a 2 mega pixel camera that was beaten by k750, and yet it costs 850$.
The N80 is a far better phone than N90, and it has a 3 megapixel and WLAN, and Macromedia flash player, with a more suitable size. So do the calculation.
And you will see that SE gives the same good products, with a better audio, for a less price. and it has been doing so since two years.
The W900i will cost 659$, and dont count on the mobile review homepage, he just gave a guess
www.simoncells.com sells the phone for a 659$ on preorder. YOU ARE WELCOME TO BUY ONE ;)
Dope....It swivels round like the S710 but has an "automatic jack-knife" mechanism which automatically flicks it round as soon as you go to open it.
Video clips of the phone in action can be viewed at www.mobile-review.com