Anonymous, 02 Jul 2012Shameful!
"We can confirm that there will be no compensation offered to Sony Ericsson Xp... morethat's right. sony has abandoned the play and its users. no profit, no support. that is their motto.
the very least they could do was updating kernel and adreno gpu drivers, which are ready for months.
they simply don't care about the phone anymore. let's face it. it's got nothing to do with the gamepad.
there's capitalist thought for you.
you may submit to it, you may think there's nothing you can do to change it.
just have some integrity and don't defend it!
Use your heads people. Other phones are easy to update because you can just slap the update on the older version. No other phone has playstation games in single-core. Think how hard it is to optimize a heavy playstation os to run on heavy ics os and make it run in one core.
"We can confirm that there will be no compensation offered to Sony Ericsson Xperia Play owners as a result of this cancellation, all we can do is aplogise for any inconvenience you may experienced."
This is the answer from sony after having sold the Xplay as an ICS phone.
And THAT is the main problem: as a reputed company, sony's developers and marketeers knew exactly how important ICS was in selling a brand new phone wih an innovative gamepad.
Every sensible customer would ask:
"Is this worth the price?
Has it got any future?"
As the phone was expensive and the gamepad was supposed to be more than a temporal marketing gimmick, promising ICS upgrade was a definitive advantage and a strong selling point.
Sony knew upgrading the Xperia Play would increase its life, its compability and, thus, increase its value and sales.
And that was taken for granted all along.
It was not something people imagined r wishe... It was promised at the buying moment!
No one - in good faith - doubted this phone would be upgradable to Android 4.0.
But as sales plumbered, Sony released the Vita console and simply lost interest in a phone that wasn't profitable enough.
They simply broke their promise and denied what had always been announced.
Would the Xperia have sold as it did if the ICS upgrade wasn't taken for granted?
Consumers have every right to feel deceived.
The Xperia Play was meant to get ICS, its price reflected that.
And, in order to keep selling, Sony continued reporting it would all be fixed, and their developers were working to get customers the best gaming experience.
Someone with coroporate responsibilities has lied, has deceived thousands of buyers from all over the world.
How will consumers feel when new games (such as "Broken Sword") will be only available to ICS as minimum requirement?
Sony only cared abut aking more and more money and deserted the phone because it wasn't profitable enough.
If they wanted to, we would already be playing on Android 4.x!
There is no doubt about that!
Sean, 29 May 2012If you people had actually tried the ICS beta, you would realize it would be an even bigger mi... moreSony's rationale for canning the ICS for the Xperia PLAY was performance issues with games. If this is indeed to be believed, then one has to wonder why Sony hasn't released the updated Adreno 205 driver. The driver update was released by Qualcomm on the 30th of December at the end of LAST YEAR. The update is believed to give a performance increase of up-to 1.5x or even 2x in some cases depending on phone and app. This is just one in a number of very simple measures that Sony could but haven't taken to bring us a stable ICS to the Xperia PLAY. Another is the clock speed/frequency. It is currently clocked to a measly 1Ghz while it can be safely clocked to as high a frequency as 1.9Ghz, so why not clock it to a still very stable 1.4Ghz, would this not increase performance to a sufficient enough level? Alas, this brings me back to my earlier criticisms of Sony's dev team and their utter incompetence, or at best, lack of giving a damn for supporting older devices. I was foolish to expect better from Sony, a lesson well learnt indee
I honestly don't think Sony is evil for not wanting to upgrade this phone. At least they tried, look at the Droid 3, that has waaay better specs than this phone and Motorola just flat out said they won't be upgrading it.
PG, 29 Jun 2012ICS is vital for any phone as it is the OS of the future.
When we bought our phones we were a... moreThats true indeed! Make that double. Do you get the point now Fanboy?
Just enjoy your freakin' Xplay OPTIMISE its old boring games in the future. Enjoy the bread!
Or should I need a translator?
PG, 29 Jun 2012ICS is vital for any phone as it is the OS of the future.
When we bought our phones we were a... moreThat is true. Missing ou on ICS, we'll be missing out on all new, upcoming games, whether they could be played via gamepad or not.
Sony has shamelessly abandoned this phone, presenting a shallow excuse and forgetting all that had repeatedly advertised.
I, for one, will not buy sony products. Plenty of options are available and no way I'm giving them any more of my hard-earned money.
It is important that customers all over the world get to know what a company like sony has done.
They are not trustworthy.
Sony has lied and deceived all those who've bought this phone.
I hope sony won't get away with it.
There should be no impunity when large companies lie and deceive their customers.
ICS is vital for any phone as it is the OS of the future.
When we bought our phones we were assured it would get the ICS upgrade.
Games such as "Broken Sword: Director's Cut" are dtarting to be released having ICS as minimum OS.
Result: The XPlay will be left out of all future games which will require Android 4.x
Sony has lied and deceived consumers worldwide.
This phone has all the required specs and hardware to get ICS, sony just couldn't bother...
Because of the gamepad, it would require extra work... too much, in sony's opinion.
Too bad for us, deceived consumers, too bad for sony's reputation as we will not be silent.
A promise has been broken.
A lie is a lie.
It won't be forgotten!
Anonymous, 29 Jun 2012LOL- I cant believe youre having a go at him for saying dude, like nobody says dude no more...annonymous u again foulmouther ..dude !!!!! is sony paying you well ?? dude !!!!!!
ICS was a great advantage for this phone.
That is why - from its launch - sony always publicised and announced this phone would get ICS.
Much money has been spent advertising it and that has granted many sales and much (undeserved) profit for this phone.
With this phoney excuse, sony has proven unworthy of trust.
ICS is not something devs has promised, it was a warranty made by a large, respected company. It was a sure thing. The manufacturer had told us so.
"We're sorry" " is everything we hear from this disloyal, treacherous company.
They've lost commercial interest for this phone.
Making the gamepad work with ICS is just not worth the trouble.
How worthy are sony, then?
How can anyone still buy their products when there are so many options on the market?
Are consumers to blame?
Trolls and fanboys will keep on intoxicating forums defending sony as if they were paid for it.
Stupid fanatic people will always exist.
Conformis will always be a form of mass control...
But, sensibly, we all know that if we accept this quietly, we'll be responsible for all others who follow sony's example.
Sony have failed to deliver what had been repeatedly advertised.
ICS upgrade was seen by Sony as a strong selling point.
That is why they always announced the peria lineup would get ICS.
That was a clever marketing campaign: advertising today's phones as fully upgradable and compatible with the next OS.
Did that work?
Apparently, it did.
Was that true?
What did Sony do when the time fot upgrading arrive?
They simply went back on the given word with a lame excuse and no compensation/alternative plan whatsoever.
Are customers supposed to "forgive and forget" the repeated lying and deceival?
Let's hope they're not just conformist sheep.
No use sony's fanboys and servants keep intoxicating forums and discussion boards everywhere.
The truth is plain to see.
direct speak, 26 Jun 2012hfs- dude !!! u say u r japnese.. this is united kingdom ..in uk honesty is very valuable ..y... moreLOL- I cant believe youre having a go at him for saying dude, like nobody says dude no more...
Stop all this rubbish about ICS, if you want it, get the ROM and stop whining, its not released for Xplay for a reason, do you want your games to run properly? or just never open your gamepad again?
ICS was NOT reflected in the price, as I got this at launch price and ICS was barely spoken about at that point, and most deffinately nothing about it for the Xperia play. The price was because it is a one of a kind phone
Guys we're not talking about our nationality here. We are all consumers.
Whether we like it or not, its a scheme. Only SonyEricsson (Sony) has the patent for making PSP like phones. Admit it, if you're a fanboy and desperately need this type of product, you will oblige yourself to buy the new version that supports ICS if it comes next time around (as I thought i would).
You have the choice!
The Power is Yours!
- Peace - :-)
"The truth behind the XPlay not getting ICS:
It's not impossible to port ICS on the XPlay device, as the cost of doing that would be very high and the profit/sales increase non-existant, or very little."
That is so true!
Major companies desert and abandon customers whenever the money is in and that is shameful.
No european laws protect customers from abusive companies.
This is not the worst case, but it is typical:
release an innovative phone - publicise it as future-proof and then... if it doesn't sell well... just drop it.
ICS could function as well with the gamepad as Gingerbread. Lower specs phones have been upgraded, so the big issue here is:
Is Sony willing to make the effort to keep its promise (and not because there is still big money in it)?
Unfortunately, the answer is obvious: No. It siimply doesn't care enough.
Like any lazy kis it just stated "Too much trouble. Won't work."
And gullible customers, fanboys and employees repeat the key sentence as a mindless herd.
A precedent has been created.
Don't forget that if we just say 'yes', the excuse will be accepted every time it is used:
"It won't work with your hardware."
*Meaning: "Come buy us a new phone!"
Companies who recur to such schemes should be lawfully punished.
hfs, 26 Jun 2012Dude,don't hate to much to sony infact myself use xplay also feel disappointed but sony do tha... morehfs- dude !!! u say u r japnese.. this is united kingdom ..in uk honesty is very valuable ..you and sony must learn that honesty ..so stop defending the undefendable sony betrayal of loyal customers .. and we dont call anybody dude in uk as you hfs have done .. this forum is for informed discussions ..we feel sony must redeem itself as major world corp by honouring sony promises ..sony must offer its xperia play loyal customers goodwill gestures ..our first digital mobile was sony cdx 20+yrs ago ..still working .
direct speak , 26 Jun 2012hfs.. sony or any other maker must not make false promises to inflate selling prices ..thats ... moreDude,don't hate to much to sony infact myself use xplay also feel disappointed but sony do that because they have reason,actually sony alrealdy build ICS for xplay but they stuck at developer decision,if they release ICS for xplay the hardware Gamepad will be useless
sory for bad english im japanese
iam, 26 Jun 2012The truth behind the XPlay not getting ICS: It's not impossible to port ICS on the XPlay de... moreplease can u elaborate it.. actually m not that much tech. so m unable to understand about the prob. u r talking abt...plz , its request.
hfs, 26 Jun 2012Seems like you copy from another gsmarena window article,that is problem why lumia win7 can't ... morehfs.. sony or any other maker must not make false promises to inflate selling prices ..thats simply fraud ..in case of genuine problems -- sony etc must be open and apologise to loyal customers .. sony etc must never be arrogant uncaring or frauds fony ..thats the issue .. and sony are expected to be honest ..sony has set bad precedence for other bad corps to follow ..getting away with bad service lies deceptions overclaims overcharging .. sony must be good sony always --leader upfront ..sadly sony have let down loyal customers like us of 30yrs standing .. still time for sony to make amends with customers ..