Vasp, 14 Nov 2011320 euros is not cheapif you keep the phone for a year its less than a Euro a day. The Desire Z did cost me a lot more when i bought it a month after its launch.
Anyway i like the "cheap" plastic of Xperia pro, it seems solid, and the materials used make it compact and lightweight. The Desire Z is bulkier and a lot heavier because of the expensive materials used. And is Desire Z more solid? I doubt it, its so heavy that if dropped its own weight will crush it.
Anonymous, 14 Nov 2011I am not having the problems that you speak of with the compass on my xperia pro. Perhaps you ... moreIts a known problem for android 2.3, many have this problem with the compass regardless of brand of phone. for some reason mine is not patched, i hope it can be fixed with a "coming soon" software update then.
th3D, 13 Nov 2011but its true the compass is bad, he has some valid arguments. I like my Xperia Pro more than m... moreI am not having the problems that you speak of with the compass on my xperia pro. Perhaps you need to try the recalibration manoeuvre (google it).
steelicon, 13 Nov 2011Thank you very much for your observations! However, some of us are investing onoffice equipmen... moreFair enough, but i dont compare netbooks to tablets, or qwerty fones to regular fones.
[deleted post]but its true the compass is bad, he has some valid arguments. I like my Xperia Pro more than my Desire Z, but Xperia Pro is far rom perfect, its a cheap fone and it shows.
For the compass: Its better if you slide out the keyboard, it will be sometimes correct then. With keyboard closed it can be up to 180 degrees wrong, depending on how you turn the fone, and i NEVER found it to show the correct direction with keybaord cklosexd unless i used another compass and turnd the xperia pro untill the needle would randomly point the right way. So its real bad, we should use the warranty to get it fixed, i am considering it but i doubt they have a fix yet.
TC, 13 Nov 2011The internal memory is too small and because it is not easy to root this can not be easily fix... moreAh, someone trying to justify spending double on something that is inferior. IMO the hardware keyboard and more compact and pocketable size of the pro makes it a superior package to even the over-hyped GSII.
I like the 3.5 mm on the side - it is the best position for playing emu games with the keyboard without interfering with your fingers, and better than on the top. The screen seems pretty scratch-resistant to me. SE have been reliable with software updates, and SE has had ICS-like features in their software for a while. I doubt you have even used the pro in person because when you have the black version in hand it looks great, and certainly more stylish than the boring rectangular slab of the GSII. The compass also is fine.
The build quality of the pro is great, especially slider. Agreed, I think they could have done a better job on the back cover which can creak, but then again the GSII isn't exactly better. Your problem is that you are also comparing a crappy touch-screen keyboard with the equally crappy hardware keyboard on the HTC Desire Z.
comparing Pro with a dual-core phone, 1Ghz RAM n better processor... That's why its fast... It's off standard specs range of Pro... peace~
TC, 13 Nov 2011The internal memory is too small and because it is not easy to root this can not be easily fix... moreNo argument, S2 sits on a class of its own, given the price range. If you want a better phone, you pay more, end of discussion. We're comparing Xperia Pro on its similar price range.
kirtimannan, 13 Nov 2011on what basis are you saying that xperia pro has problems..you havent even used it..dont pass ... moreThe internal memory is too small and because it is not easy to root this can not be easily fixed. The "scratch-resistant" screen is not really scratch-resistant at all, and the glossy fingerprintmagnet plastic is really ugly, and the compass is bad, and the user-interface is really annoying, and the 3 5 mm on the side is bad design, and the "build-quality" feels like a cheap toy..., are a few of the problems with Pro, but the reason for me not to buy Pro is because I now write faster on my onscreen keyboard on my S2 than I ever did with my Desire Z and I think any touch-screen phone with a screen larger than 4 inches is a better choice if you want to write long emails or edit documents... fast and without errors!
kirtimannan, 13 Nov 2011on what basis are you saying that xperia pro has problems..you havent even used it..dont pass ... moreThe internal memory is too small and because it is not easy to root this problem is not easy to fix, the "scratch resistant" screen is not really schratch resitstant at all, the compass is bad, 3.5 mm on the side is bad design, the glossy fingerprintmagnet plastic is ugly, the user-interface is annoying, the build-quality feels like a toy for kids... are only some of the problems with Pro, but the biggest reason for me not to buy it is because I now write a lot faster on my onscreen-keyboard on my S2 then I ever did on my Desire Z so I do not feel the need to go down in specs just to get the slide-out keyboard! I think even Arc, or any touchscreen phone with a screen larger than 4 inches, is a better choice if you want to be able to write long emails or edit documents fast and without errors!
TC, 13 Nov 2011I cancelled my preorder of Pro because of all its problems, and I can actually type much faste... moreon what basis are you saying that xperia pro has problems..you havent even used it..dont pass comments if you dont have the knowledge to do so..
th3D, 12 Nov 2011it must be compared only to other qwerty android fones. i have both HTC Desire Z and Xperia Pr... moreI cancelled my preorder of Pro because of all its problems, and I can actually type much faster on my S2 with the app "Smart Keyboard Pro" than I ever could on my Desire Z, so Pro can, and should, be compared not only with other phones with hardware "slide-out" keyboard!
th3D, 12 Nov 2011it must be compared only to other qwerty android fones. i have both HTC Desire Z and Xperia Pr... moreThank you very much for your observations! However, some of us are investing onoffice equipment from an economic point of view. We tend to compare devices within their approximate price range. See this reference as an example in cmk cell Ph0n3s d0t c0m, st substitute the appropriate letters to see the particular price list. We're trying to compare apples to oranges that are in the same price range.
metacom, 12 Nov 2011does it support smart dialing?Download Go Contacts from the market.
Sony Ericsson phones will never support dialing.
metacom, 12 Nov 2011does it support smart dialing?no, and none of us give a ****! Smart dialling should be confined to the dustbin of phone history.
Vj, 12 Nov 2011The screen size is jus 3.7inches... thts a normal size... thats d small disadvantage...
May... moreI like the screen size on the Xperia Pro. It actually makes the device very compact and fits in the pocket easily.
The screen is also amazing - the best I personally have seen.
steelicon, 12 Nov 2011Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro (SE Iyokan) MK16i has already been released for quite some time now, ... moreit must be compared only to other qwerty android fones. i have both HTC Desire Z and Xperia Pro, Xperia has the much much better camera, less/no UI lag, higher stability, better keyboard, and a ton less software bugs. for example wifi hotspot, it works so delightful on the xperia pro, while it barely works at all on the HTC. Same with USB tethering. These are all very weak spots of Desire Z (and desire series in general), while the Xperia series excel in these areas.
Advantage of the HTC Desire Z: Better screen (SLCD) has better colors and much better viewing angles, and much less backlight bleeding. The Z-hinge is good but the slider of xperia pro isnt bad either. Battery is possibly slightly better on HTC, maybe, im not yet sure of this. Edit: Digital compass is bad on the xperia pro while Desire Z has one of the best there is.
All in all, HTC Desire Z is a very bad phone, stay clear! i can recommend xperia pro but beware of the display viewing angles, the display is not impressive if put beside an Optimus 2X (IPS panel) or any HTC Desire series with SLCD.