Crow, 08 Oct 2008Where did you get the information that they used a 256 MB device in this review? They didn't m... morei cant tell you yet but in logic this is imposible that SE lets people use final x1 product then they made bad review..it will influence x1 sale..even people who made the review didnt tell us that they use final product or not so how do you know the review used final x1 product then made a bad judgement whereas there are many people made their review with x1 prototype with 256MB RAM...about RAM is still blind but i believe their manager not paper
netboy, 07 Oct 2008SE said 9/30/08, LIES!!
now stores is saying this week!
better not lie to us again!
if i ca... moretrust me its worth the wait i played with it yesterday at a conference and it is superbly small and stylish.....
definately getting this on my upgrade or might get a new contract thats how good it is
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2008iam not sure they used final product but i knew they used x1 that has 256MB RAM with new ROM, ... moreWhere did you get the information that they used a 256 MB device in this review? They didn't mention RAM size.
As the didn't state RAM, ROM version and video capturing, I'm pretty certain that this was a beta device.
Concerning the 384 MB RAM in the final version I'm not to sure this is true. Magnus Anderson said so in the web cast, but I haven't heard it from any other source except him and he didn't seem very competent on technical details. He was more into design and panels. Even the white papers still state 256 MB RAM. So my guess is that there will be 256 MB in the final version.
q, 08 Oct 2008First review not so goog about the speed: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?revi... morei notice you that a lot people also have x1 prototype with 256MB RAM right now like xperiancer, the unwired ect make their review on website...
q, 08 Oct 2008First review not so goog about the speed: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?revi... moreiam not sure they used final product but i knew they used x1 that has 256MB RAM with new ROM, it is nearly final product but in final product has 384MB RAM with the latest ROM..I will prove it that they didnt use x1 product next week...
First review not so goog about the speed:
"The idea behind the X-Panel is solid, the execution less so. Much of the information is shown in duplicate (in some cases triplicate) on the screens which feels a bit unnecessary, but our main concern is the speed. It takes a few seconds just to open the X-Panel, another few seconds to open the media library. Most of the other screens pop up quickly in low-resolution mode but then are locked from use for yet another few seconds before the high-res version kicks in."
that's pretty sad...
I like x1 very much…I don’t care about guys who always give many bad comments to this phone because I know they hate SE so although X1 has many good features they never accept it then they always try to find x1 weakness whereas no phone has perfect feature iam sure that there is a weakness on a phone , I know they never buy this phone because they don’t have enough money, I know they always complain with feeling based and without see the weaknesses of their phone at first before complain this phone.
If you like nokia tube go ahead to buy tube because no one push you to buy x1…please buy a phone what you like without push the other phone down because you are not a kid anymore…respect to the other phone you don’t like…
For me, x1 is a good phone, if you don’t like WM OS on x1 why you don’t think about 3D touch floo UI panel, manila 2D UI panel, Android UI panel and Iphone UI panel on x1. x1 is very flexible, developers can make many UI on each x1 panel soon…can symbian OS do that ? 384MB RAM can run many UI, applications, video smoothly also x1 has 528Mhz, WVGA resolution screen, better battery capacity at 1500 POLYMER NOT LIKE your LITHIUM, made of premium metal ect… does your phone have these? Does nokia tube have these? So why do you always say that nokia tube is better than x1 ? if nokia tube is better than x1 so tell me which tube feature is better than x1 ? yes you have 16m color but what else? Just one? Hahaha
Do You complain about x1 operation speed ?slow? are sure you that you ever see the final x1 product? There is no final product out there…actually x1 that you saw is a prototype which has 128 MB RAM with old ROM.The final X1 product will have 384MB RAM!! You cant complain x1 before the final x1 product in your hand then prove it if you know the final x1 product. Your bad comment about x1 is outdate...
its worth every cent :p Cant wait to get it. Most completed phone ever. more I see it on youtube ,more I love it. SE RULE
I just hope that by the time I get to Europe in the next few months that the phone would be available.
I really love it and have been waiting eagerly for it.
I've been holding out on the X1 to be our saviour and hope that it will be.
Been reading so many reviews and watched videos (all outdated now) on it that its eating away at me! I WANT IT! LoL
It's been a long time SE.
Release it to us already and lets get full review out of GSMArena please!
#########, 08 Oct 2008This fon is taking too long. I'll buy nokia 5800go a head but you must consistent, ok
netboy, 07 Oct 2008DONT EXPECT TO GET IT THIS FRIDAY 10/10/2008!!
just got email from clove.co.uk
"Thank you ag... moreit has been launched in norway.....
Talia, 08 Oct 2008what colour are you people buying?It is in black or silver,i am going for silver but some netw... moreI cant see whether their is one device with silver/black colour or their are 2 devices and one is black and one is silver????
what colour are you people buying?It is in black or silver,i am going for silver but some networks lock a single colour to them for exclusviity,
someone is selling here in the philippines for 35k(760$)his unit is test lab came from US
Symbian S60 enthusiasts must consider the following
1 - Use the screen estate better
You will probably agree that this is due to the lousy QVGA resolution. But even with QVGA, I can’t help but think that the screen estate can be used better, way better. Take for example the messaging, the settings, the gallery. Every option in the OS seems to have a huge icon, with a name next to it. Most of my screen space is blank.
2 - Customizable standby screen
Every single person who has used WM for a while can tell you just how versatile, how useful, how customizable is the Today screen (WM equivalent for standby screen). It’s not a matter of picking which shortcut icons are on display. It’s a matter of which modules or items are displayed. And the modules? They range from the silliest to the most useful: date and clock, calendar, notifications, user ID,… those are the silliest. The most useful? Well, it depends on your needs. Developers can create today plug-ins to applications. You can have a module for displaying shortcuts to your favorite software, another for activating connectivity (BT, IR, WiFi, 3G), another for showing the number of your unread feed items and even displaying some titles, and it goes on and on. comparing the S60 standby to the WM today and anyone can see WM is miles ahead. And that’s just scratching the surface. I have the most unclustered today screen ever, with only 2 raws: SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Mobile Shell and frankly, I can access everything, EVERY SINGLE THING, on my device using only those. I simply forgot how WM operates out-of-the-box. Quite impressive, ain’t it? I would like S60 to let developers access the standby screen. I’d like to be able to customize it to display what I want.
3 - Standardization
Every WM professional (touchscreen) device ships with each function in the same place. If I pick up my friend’s HTC Touch or my trainer’s HTC TyTn II or someone’s iMate Jasjar, and wanted to change the theme, activate bluetooth, launch Word, get Help, I know EXACTLY where to look. If I take my friend’s N73 or my other friend’s N76 or the other’s 6120, it will take me a while to find my way around the menu. Even out-of-the-box. If you owned 2 S60 devices, you’d know what I am talking about. For God’s sake, the N95 had 2 Media folders in different places! I beg you S60, stop the non-sense. Follow one configuration, and by one, I mean One, Une, Uno, Wahida, and if that’s not good enough, I can get you a translation in each language on earth. From my experience with devices so far, I think the Nokia 6120 has the best menu layout: it is the one that makes most sense except for the My Own folder that should be named Applications.
Talking about standardization, we need some standard menu heights in S60. The standby screen has one height, the menu another, applications another. It’s crazy!
4 - Automatic Access Point
Pretty simple. Once I connect over WiFi on WM5, it doesn’t ask me what access point i would like to use in every single connectivity demanding application, over and over and over and over… That’s not smartphone-like, that’s dumbphone. Just stick to the access point I am using. And if I am on wap, gprs, 3g, tell me there’s another viable option around, like WiFi.
5 - Get the connection from my computer
When I connect my WM device to a laptop or computer that has an on-going internet connection, the connection is routed to my device. And best of all, it doesn’t ask me questions, doesn’t need settings, it just works, out-of-the-box.
6 - Gimme shortcuts
On WM, when I press Options, I get a list of actions with one letter underlined (on qwerty based devices) or one number underlined (on 12key devices), pretty much like the menus in Microsoft Windows. If I press the underlined key, the device performs the action. No need to scroll up or down. Simple and efficient.
7 - Start on boot
In WM, like on the desktop, there’s a Startup folder where you can put shortcuts to all applications that you want to launch when the device boots. It’s splendid. I can choose which built-in apps don’t launch and which 3rd party software do. S60 needs to give the user the option to do that himself without having to rely on a developer’s generosity to implement it in the software.
8 - Contacts look-up improvement
It’s Adam from pocketnow who opened my eyes to this. Apparently when you start typing on a WM standby, it opens the contacts but looks them up in a T9 way. For example, if you type “2? it will look for contacts with a name/family name with an a, b or c. If you type 23, it will look for those with da, db, dc, ea, eb, ec, fa, fb and fc. You get the picture. It works the same way as SkeyQuiKey. I would love to see it implemented in S60 itself.
9 - Tell me my free RAM
In WM, I have access to see my free RAM. Why don’t I on S60? This is a major performance booster. Plus I would love to see ALL my running software, and not just those that kindly appear when I press the menu button for a while. Like for example, why don’t the Log, Gallery, Music Player, Contacts, show in there as running, when they show up in any other task manager?
10 - Let me choose what folders load in Gallery
The picture viewer in WM functions the same way the file explorer does, which means it will only display the My Pictures folder, when it’s first opened, showing the pictures and videos captured by the built-in camera. But I can navigate through my real folders in order to see what images are kept in these. That’s the way it should be, I think, in S60. If not, let me pick some “banned” folders, which images are not displayed in the gallery.
Bonus - 11 - Profession-axed software
I have said it, over and over again. S60 needs to be recognized as a professional operating system. That would mean getting profession-axed software : engineering, medical, law, graphic design,… Just for example, there’s a mobile version of Autocad for WM, that’s the software engineers use. When profession-axed software are available for S60, it will get a wider adoption. Not having this acknowledgment now is, in my sincere point of view, the major thing holding S60 back. Many of you will probably disagree.
These are the 11 improvements I believe S60 could use in order to achieve better user experience. What do you think? Is there anything you’d like to add to the list, or retrieve? Do you believe any of those will ever make it to S60, and if so, do you believe it’s due in the near future? Or will my grandchildren one day come to me and say “look, granny, I can see my free RAM! I bet that’s something you couldn’t do!”.
lots more but we will leave it at that....for now!
PS It's about time reviewers realised if you increase pagepool you greatly increase operational speed.
obviously, the anticipation of the phone is exciting. However, i would rather wait for all the problems to be fixed first before the phone is officially out. so i'm going to wait patiently for this phone until all the problems are worked out.
I'm looking for a phone that has a built in GPS system. Is this SE a good choice? Could someome please give me some recommendation since I don't know much about phone. Thank you.
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2008If SE uses symbian, we don't need to look at GSMarena for X series anymore.
May be they ca... moreyou are missunderstanding
you must know x series is not just a window mobile. SE confirmed that will use other OS it doesnt mean x1 is fail...they want more innovative for making a phone, they promised that the next xperia will be a super high end phone, x series is flexible to use OS, x series can use android OS too...i heard the next xperia will be use Nvidea Tegra. do you know it ?