Mobilemaster, 04 Jun 2010This is for me?? I can't bash HTC, because they are advanced than Sony Ericsson, I admit this... moreFrom what i've read 2.2 needs lesser hardware specs than 2.1...so ofcourse X10 can support it...check the tweeter for SE..they did say they will be working on later version of OS after 2.1 release.
Mark, 04 Jun 2010Yes, you are absolutely right, SE uses higher end processors for its Android phones than Nokia... moreI kept the X10 in my hands, and I can tell you that it is very fast, has a great UI, has interesting applications preinstalled , the Mediascape application is very good, and useful I think. I didn't tried to play games, so I can't tell you anything about games, sorry. The N8 is good if we compare the N97 with it! Let's compare Symbian devices with Symbian devices! The Vivaz Pro, has 720MHZ CPU, the N8 has 680 MHZ, it is almost the same. Vivaz Pro has HD video recording, the N8 has too, but Vivaz Pro was announced earlier than the N8. Vivaz Pro has a QWERTY keypad, which the N8 lacks. THe N8 has a bigger screen. The N8 has a better camera that Vivaz Pro. I kept Vivaz in my hands, it is an interesting device! :) Vivaz Pro I didn't saw with my eyes yet, but I believe that it is great. It is sad, that has only 3.2 inch screen, it needs a 3.5 inch scree.
Man, we android user can still compare devices which nokia will beat 1. x10, desire, incredible, galaxy, motoroi, evo 4g. android will take over very soon. 1 year late you will not buy a symbian phone again. because from froyo any android devices will crash nokia. what about gingerbreak?
Mobilemaster, 04 Jun 2010Well, I just wanted to post an example how far can go SE, if they wants! :) Maybe my example i... moreYes, you are absolutely right, SE uses higher end processors for its Android phones than Nokia uses for their Symbian phones. Judging purely from Mhz, SE wins!
However, there is a very big difference between Android and Symbian, and that is hardware UI acceleration. Which is why for instance the X10 has not GPU, it cant use it anyway. For symbian however, S^3 is fully accelerated, and the strong GPU does a lot of work.
In the end, we will have to wait and see, which device can run games faster etc, but currently, the N8 is maxing out the benchmarks at 60 fps. We need a new benchmark! :)
How about the X10? Do you know its performance?
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I can't bash HTC, because they are advanced than Sony Ericsson, I admit this! And I admit that the HTC Desire is better than the X10 in terms of Ram, specs. But the X10 has a bigger screen, and better camera. THe Desire has the latest version(2.1), the X10 the 1.6 version, but it is upgradeable. I think, that the Desire can support Froyo, which the X10 can't :(
Mark, 04 Jun 2010I think we just posted about the same device! I think SE uses faster processors now, becau... moreWell, I just wanted to post an example how far can go SE, if they wants! :) Maybe my example is NOT 100% correct, but you can't say that I am wrong! I mentioned the CPU speed, and you can see which company is better now right? If we talk about Ram, who is better now? I like Nokia too, so please don't get me wrong.
Scary NEWS about an ULTRA smart phone from SE!
Mobilemaster, 04 Jun 2010Those specs are AWESOME man, but when Nokia will be able to make such a phone with 1.2GHZ CPU,... moreI think we just posted about the same device!
I think SE uses faster processors now, because Android requires it and there is no GPU in the X10.. (makes sense, Android cant use the GPU properly yet)
On the camera's, I dont think we will see more than 12 mpx from the major manufacturers. What matters is sensor size, and there Nokia is taking the lead with the N8 at 1/1,83". The images from the N8 sofar ar the same if not better than any SE phone, even with non final firmware.
So, what you said is not entirely true I think.
Anonymous, 04 Jun 2010htc scorpion 4g with 1.5 ghz announced running froyo. what about x10 android 1.6 this phone fa... moreThat HTC Scorpion isn't announced! And I know that HTC is very good, but think about it! HTC make ONLY and ONLY smart phones, so this is the cause that they are so good! :D I like HTC too. The Desire is awesome, ahs 576 Mb of Ram!
BrianAW, 04 Jun 2010Who cares about the android,yes,android is cool but people wants the powerful os juz likes Sym... moreThose specs are AWESOME man, but when Nokia will be able to make such a phone with 1.2GHZ CPU, 14MP camera, full HD?? When Nokia will make their first 14MP camera phone, Sony Ericsson will announce their 18MP camera phone probably, and when Nokia will announce their 1.2 GHZ CPU phone, Sony Ericsson will announce their 1.5 GHZ smart phone. Why?? Because now SE is better in CPU, Ram, and camera quality than Nokia. You can say what do you want, but facts are facts!!
By the way Nokia will announce this year a 64Gb internal memory smart phone, with 12MP camera! And that will be their first S series ultra high-end smart phone! And that phone with it's 64Gb internal storage, will beat SE! :)
Anonymous, 04 Jun 2010u r so hillarious....smartphone rule the world....nokia is just not smart enough to launch a s... moreI think, when the first MeeGo device comes out, 4 inch AMOLED & Qwerty, more than 8 mpx, less than 14 mm thin, 800 x 480, and Cortex A9, you will think very differently.
Remember Symbian is not intended for the high end Nokia phones anymore..
Anonymous, 04 Jun 2010you must be dreaming. Nokia has been behind technology of making Smartphone now for 3 years. W... moreYour last point is bull, Nokia marketshare in the US is just over 8 %, which is more than SE.
Added to that, if by "innovation" you mean high end processors, or UI effects, you are right.
Every other field on technology related to mobile, Nokia is actually the lead innovator. Nokia has more people in R&D than Apple has Employees. They own a substantial part of the LTE patents, like they do with GSM, they have the first pentaband phone in the N8, and the list goes on.
You see, other manufacturers just buy those processors, and use Android (in the case of Samsung, they produce the chips based on ARM design, they are merely a foundry). Both of those things Nokia can do in a heartbeat if they want to. They dont. They are taking the time to rework Symbian to have a non Avkon based UI (effects) and if they are smart, will not use snapdragons but A8 and A9 chips with decent GPU's.
Another thing about innovation and technology. No other operating system, not Android, Iphone OS, Bada, not even Symbian, can match Maemo 5.
allbrands, 04 Jun 2010Nokia is very smart. Nokia is watching the other companies waste millions$$ in developing sm... moreu r so hillarious....smartphone rule the world....nokia is just not smart enough to launch a smart smartphone....thats why they are selling dual sim phone....and when nokia launch their dual sim phone it reminds me of china phone....nokia is completely innihilated in the race of smart phone and now nokia CEO are trying to earn some retirement pay and then end the nokia business....
engadget has an article today, about a 4 inch qwerty se phone. the phone looks nice, but engadget has also learned SE has no plans to work on android 2.2 for its devices.
what do you think about that?
can anyone pls tell how's the ringtone sound in thsi phone. is the speaker volume good?
Should SE consider additional features in the forthcoming X10-software update: 1) virtual alpha numeric keypad in large keys as the keyboard is only efficient in steady or not in moving condition. You need to stop then make your texts messages or whatever, 2) HD/Divx video capability, 3) audio player equalizer, 4) upgrade the 45K to 16M (or more like the new S003)color display, 4) pinch zooming to be treated as fully hightech phone, 5) Increase the internal processor and memory as they published thousands of applications and software in the android market but the memory available internally is only in the order of 500MB, 6) longer battery life and 7) FM Radio to be added in the new feature.
Should SE consider additional features in the forthcoming X10-software update: 1) virtual alpha numeric keypad in large keys as the keyboard is only efficient in steady or not in moving condition. You need to stop then make your texts messages or whatever, 2) Divx video capability, 3) audio player equalizer, 4) upgrade the 45K to 16M (or more like the new S003)color display, 4) pinch zooming to be treated as fully hightech phone, 5) Increase the internal processor and memory as they published thousands of applications and software in the android market but the memory available internally is only in the order of 500MB and 6) longer battery life.
BrianAW, 04 Jun 2010Who cares about the android,yes,android is cool but people wants the powerful os juz likes Sym... moreyes, nokia will release a phone like that someday, but it will be 2 yrs after the competition.