Anonymous, 23 Apr 2019Joled is secured and supported financially by Japanese Govt. Even though it's made huge losses... moreWell of course it is. Chinese and Korean biggest tech companies grew in same way, supoorted by the goverment.
Dont you worry about JOLED, its bright, up until now they produced oleds on a testing line only, second gen line and mass production with high cost effective yield coming in 2020, and with customers like Sony and other waiting in the line...
A smart Shooter, 23 Apr 2019I have experience some phones from my friend and parents that's enough, not need just like you... moreI change phones every two years now, to make sure i can get for the latest tech, experiencing myself (no problem with money). And no, this is not an advertising, this is an opinion express that came from a Sony fan, and i'm still a fan of Sony. But i cant deny their weakness on camera department, which is Sony itself admit it. As stated numerous on previous reply, i even said Huawei phones got its weakness, but overall its the better one. The one that denying is you, explanation that lacks knowledge in terms of a photography world.
And i gave opinion about previous Xperia, not the Xperia 1, which hopefully finally can competes with others. Back in days, i contribute a lot on Sony rom regarding theming, kernel, cameras on XDA. Still have hopes for Sony eventhough they stop selling in my country. While i'm using Huawei Mate 20 now, this are the looks of my phone - http://imgur.com/gallery/BQ2D62B
Tann Hauser, 22 Apr 2019Cool news, JDI will keep on going... Except JOLED is not a JDI division. JDI has a minor... moreJoled is secured and supported financially by Japanese Govt. Even though it's made huge losses due to serious market changes and competition, it will survive for now as it has has new investors. But without doubt, the future of Joled is still unsure.
Shui8, 22 Apr 2019Dude, that is not different yellow/gold color differences. Thats a difference in white balance... moreDude, just because you own huawei phone, doesnt mean you need to defend huawei camera that much. Youre just the same with sony fans here.
Huawei is phone is the best for low light, zoom, stability, macro, bokeh etc. Thats all make it one of the best camera phone. But for color accuracy and daylight photo it isnt. Please, accept it, its the fact..
Shui8, 22 Apr 2019Did u even understand what i'm saying previously? Dude, u need to sharpen up your knowledge ab... moreI have experience some phones from my friend and parents that's enough, not need just like you spend the money to experience it and you just give the highest rate to one brand as an advertising, that brand also have their weakness how can you deny it, the youtuber makes the camera comparison is quite fair. You are 'introduce' the brand at Sony thread and more you discredit Sony phone at the same time. The camera comparison is quite clear, P30 pro mess up on color algorithm.
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7dwBw09MLQ&feature=youtu.be
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2019Chinese and Taiwanese companies to gain controlling stake of JDI. Suwa Investment Holdings, L... moreCool news, JDI will keep on going...
Except JOLED is not a JDI division.
JDI has a minority of stock in JOLED, maybe none now as them themselves got into financial problems, and japan investment group INCJ is the main owner of JOLED, includin minor stock holders like Sony and some other japanese.
A smart Shooter, 22 Apr 2019I am sure DSLR won't take the peel off yellow color. DSLR takes true to real life color, gold ... moreDid u even understand what i'm saying previously? Dude, u need to sharpen up your knowledge about photography. Go for more professional reviewer (Mrwhosetheboss is just ok), own another branded phone to compare with in real life, dont just rely on not so credible & lame youtube comparison. Heard that u using Z2. I own that phone 4 years ago, before switching to Z5. I even root & even put Cyberian mod on that device (if u know what i mean).
Guess what? After Z5 i switch to Honor 8 Pro. Honor 8 Pro camera trash both Z5 & Z2 without any enhancement done & without root (i dont feel the need anymore as its so good) by left really far behind, along with other aspects for the price. Give u some advice, try switch another brand phone (flagship), then u'll know how bad camera algorithm on previous Xperia is. I'm happy now with Mate 20, gonna use it for next 2 years until Mate 40 arrive. Unless Sony makes me interested again.
Shui8, 22 Apr 2019Dude, that is not different yellow/gold color differences. Thats a difference in white balance... moreI am sure DSLR won't take the peel off yellow color. DSLR takes true to real life color, gold has gradients to show it is golden color, not wiped with heavy image processing.
XZ3 daylight is better than Huawei, it has more accurate color unlike Huawei bring the world only for social media.
A smart Shooter, 22 Apr 2019Huawei can't even detect gold colors in the image still photo, what they have is faded yellow ... moreDude, that is not different yellow/gold color differences. Thats a difference in white balance takes. S10 & Iphone more into warmer side, P30 on the colder side on that scene. Theres nothing wrong with that, are u serious rite now? And u can not confirm the exact color on that gold/yellow text, as u are not in that scene. If the reviewer says so, then thats a different story. (What i hear are the reviewer praise how details P30 image looks on 7:11).
U really dive dig to Huawei's weakness lol & ignore its goodness on that review lol. XZ3 cant even achieve what P30 could do, why not talking about that?
Shui8, 22 Apr 2019Sharpening on P30 is not over the top, noise free image with minimal artifacts, unlike XZ3. Co... moreHuawei can't even detect gold colors in the image still photo, what they have is faded yellow color as you can refer to duration 7:11, the signage has golden word but Huawei can't detect it and only show the whitening yellow, I know it has RYYB sensor, why don't shot the realistic color I mean is golden color not yellow color and hey this is a daylight photography it show Huawei well night shot but lack of on restore the true to real life color even the daylight just failed. Well you can wait Huawei give you the software update, maybe no or whatever, but why it isn't a finalised version and giving such betas and rush to launch into the market?
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7dwBw09MLQ&feature=youtu.be
A smart Shooter, 22 Apr 2019All in all these comparison we are talking about the low light photos both have their pros, bu... moreSharpening on P30 is not over the top, noise free image with minimal artifacts, unlike XZ3. Color reproduction on image also natural & close to real life. On video recording, yes, its produce reddish skin tones on people, perhaps because of the first RYYB sensor implementation on the market. Your video link are just out right after P30 launch, with pre-released software. No worries, an update already fix the color reproduction, looks natural & true to life now. - https://youtu.be/xQmScWWABiw
Video comparison like this i like to see, lots of professional explanation from MrWhoseTheBoss. From that comparison, P30 is the top spot for me, especially low lights, no one ever comes close (not even Pixel's Night Sight). P30 Pro auto mod alone are excellent on low lights. Its the Camera Phone to beat as of now. Lets see how Xperia 1 holds up.
Shui8, 22 Apr 2019No offence, but i prefer picture details on the Mate 20. U said Huawei wipe off details for th... moreAll in all these comparison we are talking about the low light photos both have their pros, but I don't think more details is more oversharpening but I know it has slightly oversharpening atleast not aggressive like Huawei did!
Let's see daylight camera comparison, Huawei shift the color looks tragedy as we can't see the red people in this world but Huawei show their ability on changing colors.
Source:
https://youtu.be/Y7dwBw09MLQ
A smart Shooter, 19 Apr 2019Again XZ3 show the details much clearer than wiped Huawei. You should scale down the pixel to... moreNo offence, but i prefer picture details on the Mate 20. U said Huawei wipe off details for the sake of noise free pics looks unnatural, for me, no noise reduction & oversharpen pictures looks unnatural as well, just like XZ3. Last time i remember, i dont see any grainy noise on each object i saw on real life, lots of color noise also dont persist on real life objects, so for me it unnatural as well. Its a 2 kind of situation, Mate wipe off a bit details to make pics noise free, XZ3 retain details by minimal noise reduction but crush it with excessive oversharpening. No two words about it, each with their own way camera algorithm as both using small camera sensor, unlike DSLR.
But in the end, i choose Mate 20 camera algorithm way over XZ3 does. I dont pixel peep image everytime pics captured (details are still flagship grade), i got better dynamic range, better highlights preservation, a lot better low light images, better bokeh effects, can do super macro, has ultra wide angle to capture urban city scene, RAW format, Leica 'smooth' & 'vivid' color option that i love it very much. Now Xperia 1 understands how to competes with others, hence the triple camera implementation. And by my own experience, i stand by my point.
Tann Hauser, 22 Apr 2019https://www.oled-info.com/joled-raises-228-million-build-module-production-line-chiba-2020
... moreChinese and Taiwanese companies to gain controlling stake of JDI. Suwa Investment Holdings, LLC and TPK Holding Co., Ltd.
JDI and JOLED don’t make OLED screens for smartphones at present.
JDI’s JOLED division yet has to kick off mass production of OLED screens for smartphones.
Sony ONLY owns 00.63% stake in JDI.
Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14216/chinese-and-taiwanese-companies-gain-controlling-stake-of-japan-display
Japan Display Inc., said it has entered into an alliance with Suwa Investment Holdings, LLC and TPK Holding Co., Ltd., to give control and ownership of the company to the Chinese-Taiwanese consortium.
Source: https://pageone.ng/tag/suwa-investment-holdings/
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2019Joled does Not make OLED screens. It's has serious financial problems at present and hopefully... morehttps://www.oled-info.com/joled-raises-228-million-build-module-production-line-chiba-2020
Already making OLEDs for years now, from 2020 new factory and mass production of 220 000 panels per month, japanese investors only, including Sony.
Glad to inform you.
Nikjosh, 21 Apr 2019Yes, everything should improve, maybe the future of smartphone screen is indeed 10bit HDR. But... moreYes, this phone needs a bigger battery and a headphone jack. Then it would be a real winner as everything else appears good on paper so far. Lets wait for it to be actually released for final opinions.
Tann Hauser, 21 Apr 2019Actualy it is said to be a Samsung display... Wonder what Samsung Mate and revs will "conclu... moreJoled does Not make OLED screens. It's has serious financial problems at present and hopefully a Chinese investment is coming to revive them. Guess Sony will continue buying from LG. It will take years to Joled to catch up to OLED tech, if they manage to survive.
Yes, everything should improve, maybe the future of smartphone screen is indeed 10bit HDR. But s 4K is too much for smartphone, but this phone has 1644x3840 not so far from 2K not 4K like on XZ premium, so its still ideal.
Bigger battery and faster charging, better camera are more important than better screen.
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2019Here's a honest comparasion between Samsung galaxy S10 plus and Sony Xperia 1 https://www.y... moreYou need to add a huge hole in the screen for Samsung (why they had to do that, after staying away from that atrocity until now, I can't understand), ugly arrangement of cameras on the back (that of course is about personal preference), and Samsung software (the reason I will not buy any Samsung anytime soon).
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