Sony Xperia 1 II - user opinions and reviews
- Tann Hauser
- pEC
Anonymous, 10 May 2020Unfortunately a lot of people just like high numbers. - my new phone has a 1 week batte... moreLarge numbers... right.
Selling PR mumbo.
What use is a big number 5000 maH battery if it will be 3500 maH in a year of big number 40W fast charge? Or some 4000 maH in a year of 25-30 W fast charge?
20% battery degradation is acclaimed level for battery replacement, as from that level it degrades rapidly....
Its "buy big now, so you are forced to buy big again next year" marketing psychology. In the long run, it turns out to actually be more expensive.
Reviewers should be more honest and always mention these facts while Woowing these big numbers, so readers could make a more objective buying decision.
About OLED screens shortcommings also, along with all the woowing about big numbers brightness in reviews, as people get frustrated with burn ins and color degradation after one year, and some even in less time of use.
I checked quality of them main 64 mpx sensors to 12 mpx sensors also. Detail level in everyday use is the same, as them 64 mpx ones downscale to 12 mpx, just to be usable, cause full res 64 mpx shots are just too big files and take too much time to process. Sonys old 24 mpx one was always criticized as being slower than competitive ones, with no real gain to justify it, but was at least fast enough to still be usable on a phone.
I dont see the reasoning in using those big mpx number on mobile sensor level, other than sales big numbers PR also.
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- mKj
Anonymous, 09 May 2020IMX 555 & 557 have similar size. My original comment clearly stated S20+ which you assu... moreWhen did i mention s20 ultra or +. IMX555 and 557 are different sizes. Do you know the difference between sensor size and pixel sensor size?? Don't confuse yourself. Each pixel on sensor for X1 II is larger than any other smartphone. You're again talking about pixel binning technology. S20, S20+, OP8 pro everything with higher megapixels use pixel-binning. Read facts before triggering.
- Anonymous
- pGj
Tann Hauser, 10 May 2020My 3 yr old qnovo/batterycare Xperia has only 10% battery degradation, with over 1000 charge c... moreUnfortunately a lot of people just like high numbers. - my new phone has a 1 week battery endurance. - yes but in 80% of cases it explodes and kills everyone in a radius of 5 m. - yeah, I know, but 1 week man! I bet your Xperia can't do that. Sony is rubbish and outdated. - *loud explosion*
- Tann Hauser
- pEC
Arpegius, 09 May 2020For those defending fast charging:
https://www.neowin.net/news/oppos-40w-fast-charging-degr... moreMy 3 yr old qnovo/batterycare Xperia has only 10% battery degradation, with over 1000 charge cycles of use.
Was asked to check it after some guy owning Huawei device asked me, who claimed his battery was 12% degraded after only 1,5 yr of use.
So obviously, fast charge of any level, but without batterycare tech, degrades battery for at least 50% more.
Fortuately all Xperias have BatteryCare, some LG devices use qnovo also.... but thats about it.
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Arpegius, 09 May 2020For those defending fast charging:
https://www.neowin.net/news/oppos-40w-fast-charging-degr... moreA way to limit charging speed is by using a lower wattage charger. Wattage lower than 15w will prolong the battery life. Gotta make sure these expensive phones last 4 years (or longer).
Charging Oppo everyday with 40w will probably last 2-3 years. The battery has to be charge multiple times a day as it loses capacity, further degrading the battery. (and capacity)
It is like they are treating the phone as a disposable.
If you are a student, and you spent $1200 on a laptop. Do you keep that same laptop for many years? Don't you want it to last you a long time?
EDIT: The VAIO (used to be mine) that I gave to my mother is about 7 years old now. It still runs great, (it got bit faster switching to SSD)
- Anonymous
- XRg
Smithravi, 09 May 2020How is similar size and different name man?? The sensor used in Xperia 1 II is only available ... moreIMX 555 & 557 have similar size.
My original comment clearly stated S20+ which you assumed to be S20 ultra.
Learn to read before getting triggered.
- Arpegius
- Jkx
For those defending fast charging:
https://www.neowin.net/news/oppos-40w-fast-charging-degrades-battery-capacity-to-70-in-same-cycles-as-15w-would-to-90
6411869- Smithravi
- mKj
People who are commenting 8+FRC as an 8bit should read this. True 10 bit or software 10 bit, both means 1 billion colours. That's what 10 bit actually means.
"Unfortunately the level of control of the polarizing crystals isn't quite enough to give 1024 orientations between 0 and 90 degrees. So panels use FRC to create in-between shades.. (Older panels couldn't even do 256 orientations., leading to 6-bit + FRC) . Using 8bit + FRC as an example, you want to produce 1024 shades but the panel can only orient the crystals to produce 256 shades. e.g. Shade 0, shade 4, shade 8, etc. If the pixel is supposed to display shade 401, but the panel can only produce 400 and 404, what you do is rapidly shift the pixel between 400 and 404.
You show 400 75% of the time, and 404 25% of the time (hence the F in FRC - frequency). This produces the illusion of the pixel showing shade 401. If it were showing shade 400 and 404 50% of the time, it'd produce the illusion of shade 402. If it were showing shade 400 25% of the time and 404 75% of the time, that would be shade 403.
Since the vast majority of images and movies available are encoded with 8-bit color, they would display the same on both monitors. Unless you're working with photos or video shot with 10-bit or higher color depth, there really isn't any reason to prefer true 10-bit over 8-bit + FRC. And even then most people would be hard-pressed to see the difference."
- Iwamoto
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Anonymous, 09 May 2020What? Xperia 1 ii has 10 bit display. Check their website. It's official. Stop spreading fake... moreWell, on their website it clearly states
"The Xperia 1 II has a 10-bit equivalent display (8-bit with 2-bit smoothing) that can display a myriad of colors without banding."
so, technically, it's still an 8 bit.
- Martibide
- nJF
Anonymous, 09 May 2020What? Xperia 1 ii has 10 bit display. Check their website. It's official. Stop spreading fake... moreThe official website mentions "10 bit tonal gradation" with a little note "8 bit display with 2 bit software smoothing"
- Anonymous
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Anonymous, 09 May 2020Xperia 1 ii is same 8+2. It has same screen of mark I. OP8 Pro is 8bit + 2 too. Asus Ro... moreWhat? Xperia 1 ii has 10 bit display. Check their website. It's official. Stop spreading fake information
6411869- Smithravi
- mKj
Anonymous, 08 May 2020Not much difference between the two. Both Similar sizes sensors. Will give similar image quality. How is similar size and different name man?? The sensor used in Xperia 1 II is only available in mark two only. And it is so far largest physical sensor size used. No other smartphone without pixel binning achieve this size.
- Anonymous
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Anonymous, 08 May 2020Many phones were marketed as phones with 10 bit displays. In reality, they were 8bit+frc. Xpe... moreThis phone is a 10-bit display, since it is able to display 1B+ colors.
- Anonymous
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Anonymous, 08 May 2020Last year's Xperia 1 wasnt true 10bit.
It's got 16M color. Check the specs.
This year's Xper... moreXperia 1 ii is same 8+2. It has same screen of mark I.
OP8 Pro is 8bit + 2 too.
Asus RoG is the only native 10bit screen oled.
XZ2 is native 10bit LCD.
- Anonymous
- XRg
Tann Hauser, 08 May 2020That is plainly put just not true for Xperia 1.
Xperia 1 mk II has exactly the same screen as... moreMany phones were marketed as phones with 10 bit displays.
In reality, they were 8bit+frc. Xperia 1 did the same. GSMarena confirmed this in their review.
Go check in the display section.
GSMarena made no mistake in their spec sheet.
- Anonymous
- 37H
Tann Hauser, 08 May 2020I dont think HTCs VR buissness is that much profitable to get em out of constant red due to mo... moreI hope the same, since it would be a shame if they would stop selling phones. The phone itself shows that the people from sony are able to listen to their customers, it's a good step forward. Now they have to improve in the other parts like marketing, faster release after announcement, etc.
- Tann Hauser
- MuD
Anonymous, 08 May 2020HTC also didn't rely only on Smartphones, they have also their VR Devices for example. But if ... moreI dont think HTCs VR buissness is that much profitable to get em out of constant red due to mobile buissness. They dont RnD or innovate anymore, just release some generic smartphones today, to keep the brand presence afloat.
Sonys mobile on the other has joined the Electronics division, so RnD portfolio exchange and marketing budget is now greatly improved... thus the new and very interesting Xperia 1/1mkII line.
I believe that from now on, Sonys smartphone buissness can, and will gradually build up and return the fanbase back, resulting in more profit.
- Anonymous
- 37H
Tann Hauser, 08 May 2020Dont worry about Sony Xperia fan base or sales numbers. Sony is a large multunational compan... moreHTC also didn't rely only on Smartphones, they have also their VR Devices for example. But if one division only loses money year after year and "only exists" because your use money from other parts of the company at some point they have to/will close that division. Even if you want to continue it for prestige, your shareholders will at some point tell you otherwise.
- Anonymous
- gCm
Tann Hauser, 08 May 2020Dont worry about Sony Xperia fan base or sales numbers.
Sony is a large multunational compan... morewell as company if the sales are very low and pretty much losing money every year, at some point they'll close that division. do you remember VAIO? i hope the mobile division in sony is not like that
plenty of great japanese companies forced to sold/closed the division that made them famous in the first place in recent years. sony probably is the last bastion
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