1100 bucks for a low end flagship funny.
Other much cheaper flagships for half price have much more ram disk space better battery, battery life, charging capabilities and much powerfull camera.
Sony is really out of mind if they think this will sell.
Only japanese sheeps will buy this because in Japan there is almost no other brand to sell their much better devices such as Xiaomi, Realme or Nubia.
TheGoldenMellifluous, 11 Jul 2020The comment section of Xperia 1 II has been a merry go round for infinite loops with fights an... moreproblem of a company of this size, want to reach pretty much all market available. made some of great products, few of mediocre stuff, plenty of craps. and most people talking crap solely on their experience of crappy stuff
closest thing sony currently offer to what qualia experience was back in 2004. qualia was pretty cool, hope they'll release that kind of boutique high end again in the future
The comment section of Xperia 1 II has been a merry go round for infinite loops with fights and floods of debates that never end, from battery life, UFS gen. storage, cameras, 21:9 aspect ratio, 4K screen, High Refresh Rate, color reproduction, target markets, fast charging rate, naming scheme, design, and now audio... I am amused yet perplexed... What's next? Dynamic Vibration System? FM Radio? GPS? Sensors & Actuators? Android 11 update? My goodness...
Tann Hauser, 11 Jul 2020Thats quite a visible difference in quality. Xperias screen is just top of the crop there. ... moreYeah but to be honest XPERIA 1 II Display was in Vivid mode or in Cool mode. If set to Neutral it will become more crazy to compare the color accuracy and nothing beats SONY in that.
Vineet Reddy, 11 Jul 2020For all those who are arguing that there is no noticeable difference between QHD and 4K go che... moreThats quite a visible difference in quality.
Xperias screen is just top of the crop there.
Btw, why is OP8 Pro screen worse in dynamic range at same brightness? I thought it was 10 bit too, like Xperia.
Whats with that?
Vineet Reddy, 11 Jul 2020For a decade or two SONY have been making only two kinds of headphones. The Monitors which are... moreno. for the last 4 decades, sony have been produced 3 kind of headphones. studio monitor, audiophile, and mainstream consumer. for years they studio monitors have been japan industry standard in recording along with elega headphones. in audiophile section they compete with stax which is industry standard for audiophile level headphone which is not very successful story for sony back then, compete with yamaha, fostex,stax and a bunch of japanese giants, and some european brands. again we're talking 1970-1990 here, back then people bought speakers so it's niche market in the first place. those two kind of headphones most of the times only available in japan, rarely sold in international market. they do sold some of the studio monitors for international market but they changed the name and alter the sound for international market, that's why there are always japan version and international version on most of the sony high performance headphones. the third one, the lowest of the lowest, mainstream consumer, that's the one they sold on international markets, that's why when you thinking of sony headphone. crap is always the first thought come in mind.
in 1990s they picked themselves up and focus on audiophile market. that's when they produced r10, problem is it's super expensive. that thing cost $4000 back in the 90s. they discounted that to $2000 to sell all of the r10 inventory, especially with asian financial crisis back in 1998, selling was super slow, it took them almost a decade to sell off all their inventory. and then in earlier 2000 they launched qualia, their boutique high-end brand, they released qualia 010 for headphone product, cost $2500 back in 2004. and same thing repeat, slow sell, they discontinued that qualia brand in 2006. that's when sony left the audiophile market. only focus on re-release some of their popular studio monitor and a bunch of their consumer market crap. until in 2016/2017 they decided to back to the audiophile market with the release of z1r
that's pretty much the history of sony headphones journey. so if you really want to look for decent headphones made by sony, look at their vintage studio monitors, if you really have money look for r10 and qualia. last time i check r10 cost like $8000 two years ago in secondhand market, qualia around $7000. good luck
Fearghast, 11 Jul 2020No I am not joking, Sony has nothing to offer when you want decent headphones - Beyern, AT or ... moreFor a decade or two SONY have been making only two kinds of headphones. The Monitors which are for Detailed and Accurate Listening experience. Then there is mainstream Consumer Headphones which are not extremely detailed and accurate as they are created for laid back listening. Yes not all are good but which are good are way better than their competition for what they do. For example MDR-Z1R and MDR-Z7 M2 are really good for what they do. They are great for laid back listening. If budget is limited and one is unable to purchase Focal Elegia the second best thing is MDR-Z7 M2. ATH-DT1770 Pro is really harsh detailed but harsh and not suitable at all for Laid back listening. ATH-A2000Z again not for laid back experience but are really good but then treble laid-off where details gets clipped killed the experience for me.
Fearghast, 11 Jul 2020No I am not joking, Sony has nothing to offer when you want decent headphones - Beyern, AT or ... moreyou can't compare focal utopia with beyer dt since they cost 4x much? then how the hell you can compare r10/qualia with beyer dt then? focal utopia looks super cheap compare to r10 and qualia. again do little bit of googling. it's not that hard.
my point is, sony do have decent headphones problem is most of the time they are expensive. you solely judging sony products based on some massed produce crap of sony. that's like saying all focal headphone is crap since focal spirit is utter crap. do you understand that analogy?
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2020clearly you have no idea what you talking about. sure you can buy better headphone like stax, ... moreNo I am not joking, Sony has nothing to offer when you want decent headphones - Beyern, AT or Fostex do provide much better sound.
You can't really compare Focal to Beyern DT's sice they cost more than 4 times as much.
I look for price/value and Sony headphones? ... nope. Well unless you count Sony MH1C and other "made by accident".
Fearghast, 11 Jul 2020TBH you can buch much better headphones for that price thx to brands like Sennheiser, Fostex, ... moreIt all depends on what you are looking for. For example there nothing better than SONY MDR-7520 till almost more than thrice its price that can even come near to it in comparison for what it does. MDR-7520 is not for regular laid back listening experience it is for detailed lossless Audiophile and Monitoring experience. What MDR-7250 does for $300 price before it was sadly discontinued is that is gives loss-less details most natural and neutral sounding no coloration throughout the frequency range Perfectly detailed Low-end with enough punch to bring up its presence of power. Mid-range the perfect spot-on detailed loss-less mids not laid back at all. Treble is extremely detailed up there and yet not harsh as it has to be without being rolled-off as other headphones suffer. Sound-stage for being a closed-back it has very good uninturupted sound stage which is better than many low end closed-back headphones and when it comes to Imaging it is perfect spot-on I mean it was made to do that and it does that in a class of its own. That is what SONY MDR-7520 is would I pick it up for laid back listening experience definitely not though MDR-7520 is not bad for it there is better option if spending $700 I would get Focal Elegia which is very detailed as well(not as much as MDR-7520) and has a bit held back on treble and has smooth roll-off making it smoother to listen if not extremely accurate. Sennheiser HD650($300) and HD660S($400) are good for mid range but the treble is lacking detail and is rolled off to make them less harsh over time and bass is also good but punch is missing instead we get bass slap. Sound Stage HD660S for being open-back is narrow and little wider than MDR-7520 but 7520 still beats HD660S for accurate imaging where HD660S is considered very highly for Imaging. There are others like ATH-DT1990 Pro($500) and at low end ATH-MSR7b($200) which are great for what they at that specific price point.
Smithravi, 10 Jul 2020DSEE up-scaling is been on Walkman series for years, probably since 1990's ??? If it does... morebecause of garbage in garbage out. no matter how great the algorithm for the upscaling it's still at the end of the day a compressed files in the first place. imagine an algorithm for picture that have vga resolution in the first place and then upscaling it to 4k. do you really think the result going to be proper?
some people loathe compressed audio files. that's why sony also pushing DSD audio files. do you really think people that bought wm1z going to use that DSEE features? no, they fill that thing with DSD. DSD also have been there for years, they developed that thing for SACD, i'm pretty sure it's way longer than DSEE. kinda funny, DSD just picked up some pace in the industry in recent years
for most people perhaps they are fine with compressed audio files. that's good, all good.no problem with that.but saying thing like a compressed audio files with DSEE going to produce exact quality of non compressed files... not even sony engineers going to shoot themselves like that
Fearghast, 11 Jul 2020TBH you can buch much better headphones for that price thx to brands like Sennheiser, Fostex, ... moreclearly you have no idea what you talking about. sure you can buy better headphone like stax, focal especially for the price. but Fostex, AudioTechnica, Beyern? are you joking?
for investment? i never seen a cheap qualia or r10. maybe you want to google that
and i also never seen a cheap vintage sony headphones. again you should google that to at least have some idea what sony done in the past in their headphone development. because for current market, pretty much almost of all their stuff are crap, they want to reach wider market so can't blame to produce some cheap stuff
Fearghast, 11 Jul 2020hmmmm .... okNo, seriously even the old XZ Premium I have is clearly sharper than QHD models from the competitors. XZ Premium is even smaller in size. It is noticeable.
Fearghast, 11 Jul 2020You know, on my screen and it's not a big one, the phone image is 2-3x times as big as it... moreI can notice the difference on my 15" Laptop which I am currently typing on not on Full-screen mode. That is close to real life. For you I even measured using tape the OnePlus and Mi are both 70mm in width while SONY is 65mm(I measured it at 5:37 into the video for reference) in width on my screen which is 4-5mm less than their real life numbers. Lets say you have 24" screen or 27" screen watch it in regular mode and not in Full-Screen and still you can notice the difference and argument here is the seating distance you will be at-least 2-3ft away from screen. While I am having my 15" screen it 1.5-2ft away from me.
Anonymous, 10 Jul 2020all sony headphones you listed pretty much craps in the first place. if you really want high q... moreTBH you can buch much better headphones for that price thx to brands like Sennheiser, Fostex, AudioTechnica, Beyerne etc.
There is literaly never a reason to buy Sony headphones because they are never a good investement compared to competetion.
BUT I did not test any vintage Sony headphones, maybe 20-30 years in past, they would blow me away. Right now? Why even bother.
Vineet Reddy, 11 Jul 2020For all those who are arguing that there is no noticeable difference between QHD and 4K go che... moreYou know, on my screen and it's not a big one, the phone image is 2-3x times as big as it would have been IRL.
So ofcourse you can see difference clearly ... under 2-3x zoom :D
Smithravi, 10 Jul 2020DSEE up-scaling is been on Walkman series for years, probably since 1990's ??? If it does... moreIt does nothing, it can do nothing.
Why is it there, because you need a PR sticker that brags about you are better than competetion. It does not matter it does not work, you have it - others do not.
If you use or reserch what DSEE does it's really simple and it's pointless - maybe for bassheads that just can't get the kick out of regular V shaped headphones.
For all those who are arguing that there is no noticeable difference between QHD and 4K go check "TehNick" latest video(link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RVM6UQSN3s ). Even after that you guys think that there is no visible difference then either you guys are stubborn to accept the fact or need to get you eyes tested(not saying in a rude manner but seriously there may be eye problem which you are unaware of).
Jdjd, 07 Jul 2020This is why lg and sony deserve to be bankrupt in mobile industry. Apple and sammy offer small... moreYou must wear some tight pants then. I don't have a problem putting something like the S20+ in my pocket from a sitting position. Though, that doesn't speak for everyone, and I'd hardly think a company should "go bankrupt" for not offering something you personally want. Preferences aren't objective and the size of a phone shouldn't be a factor in a company's success or failure financially.