Sony Xperia 1 II - user opinions and reviews
- Fearghast
- 3D9
Senseurheart Kimochi, 11 Jun 2020I say 10INCH distance between you watching 4K display on a smartphone, not 10cm ( 10cm about 4... moreIt is useless but the difference is not "slightly".
Don't be silly, you or the OS settings can always go to 60 or lower when it's not needed, but you can never go up on a 60Hz screen.
On 10" distance 4K is useless as you can't tell difference between 2K or a 4K on a 6,5" screen.
Not to mention watching a movie on a smartphone with lack luster audio and comfort.
I get there are people that can't afford a TV or PC, but those people are probably not paying 1200 euro for a smarthone either.
- Fearghast
- 3D9
Smithravi, 11 Jun 2020It doesn't matter. Such devices can never be mainstream. They are like mobiles made of gold an... moreNot really sure what you mean by mainstream considering Xperia sales.
It's packed with niche features, it's actualy a huge part of the Mark II gimmick.
Fearghast, 11 Jun 2020I meant 60+Hz being useless not because it does not work on a small screen - it bloody looks a... moreI say 10INCH distance between you watching 4K display on a smartphone, not 10cm ( 10cm about 4inch it is too closer). Most people are watching around 10INCH between smartphone someone can get closer example 8INCH.
120hz or 144hz HRR drain battery faster, which is the fastest one? If pay more for gain the weight of the battery then almost every flagships are around 200g or over it, it is insane if the smartphone heavyweight just for providing the slightly smoothness.
- Dante101
- XVp
Smithravi, 11 Jun 2020It doesn't matter. Such devices can never be mainstream. They are like mobiles made of gold an... moreIn that case, you are looking for the word "Mainstream" flagship... 😆 Gaming devices are also premium devices as they are expensive.
- Smithravi
- mKj
Dante101, 11 Jun 2020The phrase you are looking for is "Well known flagship" not "Premium flagship". Sharp Zero 2 i... moreIt doesn't matter. Such devices can never be mainstream. They are like mobiles made of gold and diamonds. Sounds nice on paper but not practical. Premium flagships means it should be an all rounder (Camera, display, build quality, audio, design and lots of features which you don't find in other smartphones) not just refresh rates. I don't know when will people realize. Obviously high refresh rates are good only for gaming. And gaming devices can never be a premium device and vice versa.
- Dante101
- XVp
Smithravi, 11 Jun 2020I'm talking about premium flagship smartphones like iPhone, Xperia, Galaxy S, Note etc.. No bo... moreThe phrase you are looking for is "Well known flagship" not "Premium flagship". Sharp Zero 2 isn't available everywhere that's why it's not that well known.
Personally I don't like HRR displays too until battery life is optimized for it. I just wanted to point it out that they do exist.
- Smithravi
- mKj
Dante101, 11 Jun 2020Sharp Aquos Zero 2 is allready doing 240hz in 2020.I'm talking about premium flagship smartphones like iPhone, Xperia, Galaxy S, Note etc.. No body considers "Sharp Aqous Zero 2" as premium smartphone (It is actually 120Hz with black frames). I do know there are already gaming smartphones with native 144Hz like Nubia in 2020.
- Dante101
- XVp
Smithravi, 10 Jun 2020I highly doubt any flagship will go over 120Hz (Next are 144Hz or 240Hz) at least until 2035/2... moreSharp Aquos Zero 2 is allready doing 240hz in 2020.
- Fearghast
- 3D9
Senseurheart Kimochi, 11 Jun 2020IMO the HRR (120hz or 144hz or above) on a smartphone display you won't see much difference th... moreI meant 60+Hz being useless not because it does not work on a small screen - it bloody looks amazing, but in a relation to what a user can effectively do on a phone and for how long.
In that regard, no thank you, watching a movie on a phone .... 10 centimeters slaped on my mug? ... I am not that desperate, I am using a 4K display for 6 years and I will up it to 4K@144@1000+HDR this year. I would have it already, but you know Covid stuff and the deal expired by then. Watching a movie on a phone in general ... with speakers? With headphones on that dac? ufff that's rough dude.
Probably a best solution is implementation of sync that iPad, Razer ... probably Asus (not sure there) are using - aka dynamic refresh rate that adapts to what you do on your device.
Fearghast, 08 Jun 2020You clearly have no experience with 60+Hz on a display.
+ I do believe that 60+ on a phone is... moreIMO the HRR (120hz or 144hz or above) on a smartphone display you won't see much difference than 60hz, when the user watch their small display on a smartphone about 10inch distance. Someone saying HRR has better for UI transition because of high refresh rate is 120 Hz(example), it means that the image is refreshed 120 TIMES PER SECOND, do you need the UI transition do so much work and become battery hog? Other person saying HRR better for gaming smoother frame rate, but actually when user gaming on smartphone the characters in the game are very tiny their weapon are even more tiny, with the 10inch distance watching to the display you can't see anything different even it is HRR, because the motion object is very tiny on moves and display is very tiny so it is very hard to attentively see the difference. So 90hz refresh rate consume more battery than 60hz, 120hz consume more battery than 90hz and even more than 60hz, the 144hz HRR is the king of battery consumption periodly and it doesn't improve the image quality either, but maybe improve the smoothness very minor, but people hardly see the difference on a small screen.
4K display is better because people watching 55inch size 4K TV distance about 10 feet, it is much same as people watching a 4K display on a smartphone with 10inch distance. The Sony xperia 1ii has the most huge range of color gamut and high resolution pixels to produce even more details/magnificent/high quality/true to real life images on the 4K HDR displays and you can attentively watching the still-image or video or YouTube or movies...anything with exceptional experience.
The Xperia 1 ii has Motion blur reduction technology.
- Fearghast
- 3D9
Smithravi, 10 Jun 2020I highly doubt any flagship will go over 120Hz (Next are 144Hz or 240Hz) at least until 2035/2... moreLet me elaborate, because I feel there is an issue of not understanding each other.
I don't do brands, world for me is more complicated than fans and haters, IMHO there is a room for objectivity.
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60+Hz on a mobile display is seriously questionable of usefulness - other than feeling more fluid - it's not useful for content - video, audio, pictures, most of the games - best benefit is with motion, scrolling etc. I personaly don't care for it on a mobile phone, I care on tablet when I draw and on my PC when I do anything - even browsing, work everything is much more comfortable.
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4K is useless on a 6,5" screen - being amoled with pentile does not change a thing - it's useless, you can't see it, it's battery hog, most of the content and apps don't even use 4K on Xperia, there is no resolution options app by app basis etc.
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Black frame insertion is nice, I used it myself on my old gaming panel. But it's not as good as a propper 90Hz or higher.
You are right, it's at least something, something better than usual 60Hz.
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360 it's nice feature I used it myself. It's not anything new and pure binaural recording is much better, beucase you do not simulate, you are in the room with the music.
IMHO it's nice, it will die soon or will stay irelevant.
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Speakers are better. They sure are, but they lack the base, they lack the balance, nuance and are left behind by a competetion that does not even use proper front facing stereo (Xiaomi for instance).
So I have to agee - better, good, 7/10.
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Wind fiter
It's software limiter that trades one disaster for another one.
There is no harsh peaking with wind filter, but you get under water audio as a trade off.
Not good at all a mount for a deadcat - let's say on a case, that would be awesome!
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4K@60 recording
You are on a phone, you have to accept the fact, that even 700€ Sony ZV-1 has more than quadruple image quality when it comes to video quality.
If you are a profesional, you are not using a phone to create the content.
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High res audio is a priority for me - at least when I am at home.
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So it's not black and white I guess. Sony is making a lot of mistakes and a lot of things right. Being a fanboy is a sad sad fate mate. I hope you get well soon.
- pauliusb
- n}c
Siki84, 09 Jun 2020I read somewhere, that EU version will only have single SIM, can anyone confirm that?Its tricky here. E.g. in sony site of Sweden for xperia 1ii it says single sim. However, when i checked with one of service providers (Telia Sweden) they confirmed (twice!) Its dual sim. I even have print screen from my chat with customer support. I have preordered xperia 1 ii, so looking forward to check this out.
- Anonymous
- xtS
I'm so interesting on soyxperia 1ii
Dispite the short comming of the phone
Sony Xperia 1 ii are lacking :
*selfie camera which pixed as 8mp instead. 48mp
*the front camera also lacking Zeiss future
* battery is 4000mAh instead 4500mAh
- Mukhtar
- xtS
Im so interesting for Sony Xperia 1 ii
Dispite the phone short comming in:
* selfie (front camera) which pixed as 8mp instead 48mp
* the front camera are not fully in Zeiss future
*the sound need to be improve in sterior with amplifier form
*The phone battery 4000 need to be upgrade to 4500mAh
- Ayman
- vV5
Alexz80, 11 Jun 2020Will be buy this at SG around Jan next year hopefully the price will be drop, Sony Mobile out ... moreHow about Malaysia 🥺
- Alexz80
- Khs
Will be buy this at SG around Jan next year hopefully the price will be drop, Sony Mobile out from Indonesia so sad. Must buy from outside of Indonesia.
- Fearghast
- p4x
saved, 11 Jun 2020and by the way according to your logics, when one is watching a 24fps movie on a 144hz screen ... moreYou really have a hard time understanding a point I made with my post, do you?
- Smithravi
- mKj
RishiGuru, 11 Jun 2020The phone is growing on me every second. Alas Sony is not available in India.If you are really interested you can import from HK or Japan (Dual sim variants) using international shipping sites like Wandamobile or expansys.
- AnonD-932544
- fDw
saved, 11 Jun 2020and by the way according to your logics, when one is watching a 24fps movie on a 144hz screen ... moreDude, that's savage! Good.
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