This phone's screen is 6,5 cm wide. My LG V30 display is 6,8 cm wide.
But: this xperia is 1,5 cm longer then my V30.
There are cheap phones
There are budget phones
There are midrange phones
There are flagship phones
And than there is sony Xperia 1 mkII
XA2, 03 Jun 2020Hi, been using Sony for very long time, had M2 (for ~4 years) very nice and reliable phone. De... moresony doesn't care much about non-flagship devices.
don't even try to compare flagships to midrange, it's like comparing Maybach to S120.
Flagships tend to get much more attention
Hi, been using Sony for very long time, had M2 (for ~4 years) very nice and reliable phone. Decided to upgrade to XA2 few years ago, had 2 or 3 minor updates over all this time. Interface is boring. They even do not fix bugs like radio and proximity sensor. Have Samsung 50 as a work phone, updates every month or so. Some cool new features, tons of various customisations and etc. Sorry Sony, you do not care about the clients. Will never buy any Sony phone again. If someone thinks i am bias i worked for Sony myself. Different division, not mobile phones.
joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Oh here's an idea for Sony. Don't use a terrible low res 12mpx sensor! That'll solve the probl... moreTry asking that question to the chief engineer (someone who knows more than you do). He'll tell you in detail the advantages of using less MP and why they choose not to support 8K video recording.
joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Oh my goodness you people never fail to disappoint me. 8K video is for a massive 65 inch TV, n... moreI actually said 8k at 70mbps which is heavily compressed. And it was a question if that is what you planned to do with it.
Do not try to twist my words
joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Yep, 4K60, not 8K30. >>tell us about 1/1.7" sensors with 10ms full readout that came out in 2018 and allowed for electronically and optically stabilized 4k@60 without heavy cropping, 60fps exposure computing and 20fps burst photography.
>>Yep, 4K60, not 8K30.
don't embarrass yourself. only iphones, HTC and a few other brands could do 4k60 without framedrops until 2019, but they were unstabilized, and while the sensors were 1/2.6" not 1/1.7 they still had to crop into sensor since full sensor readout was still too slow, so turn your brains on and maybe then you'll realize that the reason even big cameras like canon, nikon and panasonic crop 4k30 from their sensors because their full sensor readout is too slow, and introducing 10ms full readout on a 1/1,7 sensor is so beefy you can't even imagine.
[deleted post]you're just another person who don't understand that in Hollywood they buy cameras that cost over $200,000, while the lenses able to resolve this resolution are worth even more, and that's only 5k and 6k; 8k equipment is only affordable for a few directors in the world...
and Joe thinks that a phone that shoots 8k@80mbps will make him more happy while even 4k screens are unaffordable for most population, let alone 8k displays
I honestly wish you had an 8k screen and watched 4k or 5k from a real camera like Arri, Red or at least Sony A7r3 and then tried the 8k from an LG or Samsung phone to understand what nonsense you're carrying over for the third day. If you saw that 8k from samsung on a 8k screen you'd stop blabbering about it not being a gimmick, lol
joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Oh here's an idea for Sony. Don't use a terrible low res 12mpx sensor! That'll solve the probl... morei guess you choose to live completely isolated from any information that doesn't fit your brain.
Did you know that Sony makes A7R3 camera with a 40mp sensor, and a A7S2 camera with just a 12mp sensor for better video in low light? A professional camera that costs a few thousand dollars, and only has 12mp? Go and learn about the reasons it's become so popular with videomakers.
You seem to completely not understand any technology at all.
What's good for video isn't necessarily good for photography. And vice versa. I admit, Xiaomi with 108mp sensor produces really sharp images that have ~20mp detail in perpixel sharpness, but that's about it, and only because current 12mp pixels never had more than 6-8mp of detail.
Did you know why FF and Medium Format cameras rarely have resolutions over 40mp? Because nobody can make a lens perfect enough to resolve all these megapixels.
And yea, we've seen this 8k from Samsung. I'm not going to do the work of finding youtube comparisons for you, but i've seen the 8k footage and I responsibly claim that any iPhone with Filmic in 4k can give better detail than samsung in 8k.
This is a complete gimmick; even Sony's 4k will and DOES look better than Samsung's 8k.
I will though say that LG's 8k video looks somewhat decent, but again, remind me please how many people got i9-9999k CPU, 64gb ram and Nvidia 2080 to edit 8k video. These can afford and do buy Red and Alexa cameras that shoot only in 5k because that 5k gives perpixel sharpness, and just because it's a professional tool their 5k will beat samsungs 16k if the latter will ever learn how to do that.
YogiBear83, 01 Jun 2020How do you want 8K video on 12mpx sensor?Oh here's an idea for Sony. Don't use a terrible low res 12mpx sensor! That'll solve the problem. Lmao. Or y'know, keep your beloved low res sensors, and just add a 40, 48, 50, 64, or 108 MP sensor to this dang $1200 phone. Because they obviously wouldn't be losing any significant profits off it when the Xiaomi phone that costs half that can do it. While still beating this in pretty much every area except the uselessly high resolution screen.
YogiBear83, 01 Jun 2020S20 sensor is 2 generation behind in terms of "noise" at high ISO, and 4 generation behind in ... moreAh yet another person reusing one of your cards. You people still fail to acknowledge any more than the big names like Apple, Samsung, and your beloved Sony.
But back to the main point. I have yet to see a comparison that shows a meaningful difference in high ISO quality. Show me one where the 10 II wins, then I'll believe you. Otherwise don't talk to me.
saved, 01 Jun 2020>>can't shoot 8k
Sony shoots 4k at 90mbps
Samsung shoots 8k at 80mbps
This fact a... moreLove how the only companies you people acknowledge are Apple, Samsung, and Sony. It's like you don't know anything but the big names. I've never called Samsung's cameras perfect, but there's a ton you aren't understanding here. For one, that's 80mbps at 8K24. 24 fps, vs the 60 fps that Sony uses that 90mbps for. The 80 is gonna look a lot better. Especially due to the resolution. Secondly, Xiaomi, the company you've failed to acknowledge, hits over 100mbps on their Mi 10 Pro, at 30 fps. So, better looking than the 10 II's 4K, while being smoother than the S20 Ultra's, and despite being a higher bitrate than the S20 Ultra, since it's 6 fps higher, it's not gonna look all that different.
I would ask what YOUR point is, but it's clear what your point is, and it's clear you don't understand a thing.
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2020Another example of your strange logic to go with the rest of your comments You say 4k is usel... moreOh my goodness you people never fail to disappoint me. 8K video is for a massive 65 inch TV, not for a tiny 6.5 inch phone. You even said that it's for a TV in your reply yet still failed to realize it somehow? I didn't even know that was possible.
Dickty, 02 Jun 2020I have the note 10, and have compared it to Xperia 1 II, overall i would say camera-wise the m... moreLol if someone were to be buying a phone for video they sure as hell wouldn't pick this due to the lack of 8K.
Dickty, 02 Jun 2020I have the note 10, and have compared it to Xperia 1 II, overall i would say camera-wise the m... moreThe mi note 10 has Spherical Aberration even in good light condition it still get ghosting image, the low light even worse, you can compare the low light find out the pink pompoms, the Mi note 10 has blurry in automode.
Xperia 1 ii camera quality is natural and realistic, even it is in low light conditions.
You can compare the camera comparison on Gsmarena. By watching this comparison, you should know mi note 10 ghosting isn't a great image processing..