Sony Xperia 1 II - user opinions and reviews
- Mr Telephone
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joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Oh here's an idea for Sony. Don't use a terrible low res 12mpx sensor! That'll solve the probl... moreTry asking that question to the chief engineer (someone who knows more than you do). He'll tell you in detail the advantages of using less MP and why they choose not to support 8K video recording.
- Anonymous
- pGj
joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Oh my goodness you people never fail to disappoint me. 8K video is for a massive 65 inch TV, n... moreI actually said 8k at 70mbps which is heavily compressed. And it was a question if that is what you planned to do with it.
Do not try to twist my words
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- QUW
joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Yep, 4K60, not 8K30. >>tell us about 1/1.7" sensors with 10ms full readout that came out in 2018 and allowed for electronically and optically stabilized 4k@60 without heavy cropping, 60fps exposure computing and 20fps burst photography.
>>Yep, 4K60, not 8K30.
don't embarrass yourself. only iphones, HTC and a few other brands could do 4k60 without framedrops until 2019, but they were unstabilized, and while the sensors were 1/2.6" not 1/1.7 they still had to crop into sensor since full sensor readout was still too slow, so turn your brains on and maybe then you'll realize that the reason even big cameras like canon, nikon and panasonic crop 4k30 from their sensors because their full sensor readout is too slow, and introducing 10ms full readout on a 1/1,7 sensor is so beefy you can't even imagine.
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[deleted post]you're just another person who don't understand that in Hollywood they buy cameras that cost over $200,000, while the lenses able to resolve this resolution are worth even more, and that's only 5k and 6k; 8k equipment is only affordable for a few directors in the world...
and Joe thinks that a phone that shoots 8k@80mbps will make him more happy while even 4k screens are unaffordable for most population, let alone 8k displays
I honestly wish you had an 8k screen and watched 4k or 5k from a real camera like Arri, Red or at least Sony A7r3 and then tried the 8k from an LG or Samsung phone to understand what nonsense you're carrying over for the third day. If you saw that 8k from samsung on a 8k screen you'd stop blabbering about it not being a gimmick, lol
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joe nodden, 03 Jun 2020Oh here's an idea for Sony. Don't use a terrible low res 12mpx sensor! That'll solve the probl... morei guess you choose to live completely isolated from any information that doesn't fit your brain.
Did you know that Sony makes A7R3 camera with a 40mp sensor, and a A7S2 camera with just a 12mp sensor for better video in low light? A professional camera that costs a few thousand dollars, and only has 12mp? Go and learn about the reasons it's become so popular with videomakers.
You seem to completely not understand any technology at all.
What's good for video isn't necessarily good for photography. And vice versa. I admit, Xiaomi with 108mp sensor produces really sharp images that have ~20mp detail in perpixel sharpness, but that's about it, and only because current 12mp pixels never had more than 6-8mp of detail.
Did you know why FF and Medium Format cameras rarely have resolutions over 40mp? Because nobody can make a lens perfect enough to resolve all these megapixels.
And yea, we've seen this 8k from Samsung. I'm not going to do the work of finding youtube comparisons for you, but i've seen the 8k footage and I responsibly claim that any iPhone with Filmic in 4k can give better detail than samsung in 8k.
This is a complete gimmick; even Sony's 4k will and DOES look better than Samsung's 8k.
I will though say that LG's 8k video looks somewhat decent, but again, remind me please how many people got i9-9999k CPU, 64gb ram and Nvidia 2080 to edit 8k video. These can afford and do buy Red and Alexa cameras that shoot only in 5k because that 5k gives perpixel sharpness, and just because it's a professional tool their 5k will beat samsungs 16k if the latter will ever learn how to do that.
- joe nodden
- jpa
saved, 01 Jun 2020yea please tell us about 1/1.7" sensors with 10ms full readout that came out in 2018 and allow... moreYep, 4K60, not 8K30.
- joe nodden
- jpa
YogiBear83, 01 Jun 2020How do you want 8K video on 12mpx sensor?Oh here's an idea for Sony. Don't use a terrible low res 12mpx sensor! That'll solve the problem. Lmao. Or y'know, keep your beloved low res sensors, and just add a 40, 48, 50, 64, or 108 MP sensor to this dang $1200 phone. Because they obviously wouldn't be losing any significant profits off it when the Xiaomi phone that costs half that can do it. While still beating this in pretty much every area except the uselessly high resolution screen.
- joe nodden
- jpa
YogiBear83, 01 Jun 2020S20 sensor is 2 generation behind in terms of "noise" at high ISO, and 4 generation behind in ... moreAh yet another person reusing one of your cards. You people still fail to acknowledge any more than the big names like Apple, Samsung, and your beloved Sony.
But back to the main point. I have yet to see a comparison that shows a meaningful difference in high ISO quality. Show me one where the 10 II wins, then I'll believe you. Otherwise don't talk to me.
- joe nodden
- jpa
saved, 01 Jun 2020>>can't shoot 8k
Sony shoots 4k at 90mbps
Samsung shoots 8k at 80mbps
This fact a... moreLove how the only companies you people acknowledge are Apple, Samsung, and Sony. It's like you don't know anything but the big names. I've never called Samsung's cameras perfect, but there's a ton you aren't understanding here. For one, that's 80mbps at 8K24. 24 fps, vs the 60 fps that Sony uses that 90mbps for. The 80 is gonna look a lot better. Especially due to the resolution. Secondly, Xiaomi, the company you've failed to acknowledge, hits over 100mbps on their Mi 10 Pro, at 30 fps. So, better looking than the 10 II's 4K, while being smoother than the S20 Ultra's, and despite being a higher bitrate than the S20 Ultra, since it's 6 fps higher, it's not gonna look all that different.
I would ask what YOUR point is, but it's clear what your point is, and it's clear you don't understand a thing.
- joe nodden
- jpa
Anonymous, 01 Jun 2020Another example of your strange logic to go with the rest of your comments You say 4k is usel... moreOh my goodness you people never fail to disappoint me. 8K video is for a massive 65 inch TV, not for a tiny 6.5 inch phone. You even said that it's for a TV in your reply yet still failed to realize it somehow? I didn't even know that was possible.
- joe nodden
- jpa
Dickty, 02 Jun 2020I have the note 10, and have compared it to Xperia 1 II, overall i would say camera-wise the m... moreLol if someone were to be buying a phone for video they sure as hell wouldn't pick this due to the lack of 8K.
- Cip
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d4r3z, 01 Jun 2020This phone has it all slim design top chipset 4K HDR Oled 1B colors screen IP65/IP68 dust/... moreonly 60hz, I'll pass.
Dickty, 02 Jun 2020I have the note 10, and have compared it to Xperia 1 II, overall i would say camera-wise the m... moreThe mi note 10 has Spherical Aberration even in good light condition it still get ghosting image, the low light even worse, you can compare the low light find out the pink pompoms, the Mi note 10 has blurry in automode.
Xperia 1 ii camera quality is natural and realistic, even it is in low light conditions.
You can compare the camera comparison on Gsmarena. By watching this comparison, you should know mi note 10 ghosting isn't a great image processing..
Source:
https://m.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=9936&idPhone2=10096
- Smithravi
- mKj
GSMA youtube review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP9hi_Lw4_Q
Even though the overall rating and review is positive about Xperia 1 II. I'm still missing the aspects like 20 fps, Eye AF, HS etc. Not too detailed IMHO.
- Anonymous
- nC2
Sony is no more in Dubai why? Even in Carrefour, Sharaf DG, E max. Cannot compete with Chinese cheap brands. May be due to lack of marketing and high price tag.
- Suz
- vNy
Can't wait for what Sony planned to pull with the delayed battery test for software update. But considered Xperia 1 also with 4K HDR had such small capacity like 3330mAh and still managed to score 79h in endurance test which it about 5-6 hours SOT we can expect the mk II with 4000mAh to be good
- Smithravi
- mKj
Xperia 1 II 4K recording from stock camera app can record easily over 1 hour
After 65min one of the recording functions seems to be disabled but 4K recording continues over 80min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=471&v=q250QPsveig&feature=emb_logo
- Dickty
- 3ZD
stefano1, 30 May 2020sony xperia or xiaomi mi 10 pro?
ThanksI have the note 10, and have compared it to Xperia 1 II, overall i would say camera-wise the mi note 10 is better by a large margin, in video department because of processor it doesn't feature 4k at 60fps, and also it's weaker in CPU/GPU but it's perfectly useable for day to day use.
I'm happy with it, a Mi Note 10 with Snap 865 and little bit more slim withouth roudn corners would be perfect.
- Anonymous
- n07
TeeKay, 02 Jun 2020Sony should close and move on. For the excellent quality they produce android is not the right OS. I don't think they have any other choice, they don't have the market share to make their own os and hope aps will be made available. Apple is a closed os.
As much as I like the features, if it wasn't Android i personally wouldn't consider it, I had a Palm pre which was web os, it was good, but the aps were simply not available.
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- Rn$
Beetle, 01 Jun 2020They say that there is no option for 4k60p in regular video app? You have to use the video p... more[deleted]
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