Anonymous, 28 May 2020Is the Sony Xperia 1 ii overpriced? I guess it will depend. If you take full advantage of th... moreThe things is even the reasons you listed above are worthless. You won't notice the difference between 4k and 1440p on a phone screen. Also, the fact that Sony screen only refreshes at 60hz means they're many screens better that it such as the OP 8 Pro or the galaxy s20 ultra. If you plan on keeping your phone for 3 to 4 years then an Oneplus, Oixel, or iPhone would be a better choice as all these manufacturers update their phones for at least 3 years. The only reason someone would buy this thing is if they really need the manual photo and video mode.
Smithravi, 28 May 2020Actual picture taken by DPR, https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/6214989909/sony-xpe... moreThis kind of photo is always difficult for any camera. It probably needed the exposure compensation changed manually to get a better preprocess result. But honestly as long as the information is there I will quite happily process is to my liking afterwords. And apparently it will also get raw support in the camera pro app at a later date.
Actual picture taken by DPR,
Vs Post processed in Lightroom by Reddit user
This was his opinion:
"My opinion has changed after messing around with one of the photos in Lightroom. Based on what other users are saying, HDR was likely off for this shot since apparently you have to enable it in manual mode (which is ridiculous, but that's a different topic). The first photo I linked was heavily backlit and it only exposed a small portion of the scene correctly. It blew out almost everything in direct sunlight (https://i.imgur.com/6Ur8jGL.jpg), getting that information back was not possible. It still underexposed the vast majority of the tunnel as well, and the overall image quality is not great.
However, I was able to recover a significant amount of information from the shadows. I'm actually shocked at how much is still there given that it's a jpeg file from a smartphone. Very little of the underexposed area is actually pure black. It's not just the luminance data either, it actually managed to keep a good deal of color information, even towards the corners of the frame (check out the graffiti on the top right). According to the EXIF data, this was a shot with a 1/200s exposure and an ISO of 64, which is just nuts for a smartphone. I took a test shot on my Pixel at 1/200s and ISO 100 in my living room, which is on the shaded side of my house but still receiving a good amount of light from a clear blue sky, and I was not able to recover anywhere close to the amount of information I was able to get from the Xperia 1ii.
I am really, really impressed by the sensor in this thing, at least based on this one photo. That being said, Sony's processing still needs work, because most users aren't going to bother to edit their photos after the fact like this, so the "point and shoot" shots don't look like anything special. With the amount of light this sensor is capturing, I think they could probably raise the shutter speed a bit to combat the blown out highlights and still manage to have enough information in the shadows to deliver a quality photo, and I hope they update it in the future."
Just dont expect anything from this rev here.
Speakers will be tested without Dolby enhancement on, only wireless and maybe usb headphone quality will be tested, screen will be tested in standard not creator mode, battery will maybe, just maybe, be tested in both 60 and 90 hz modes, but most probably only 90hz, camera will be tested in auto mode with just one or two HDR shots of, as usual, buildings/objects only, and without any specific AF testing...
And of course, as usual, overall score will certainly be lower than that SG bunch....
Rather go see what people like J Bagnell have to say about it in his tech deep dive reviews.
. , 28 May 2020LMAO, Chinese phones will beat all the DSLR because of much higher pixels. How terrifying😱😱😱all those so called professional photographers clearly not knowing what they're doing, carrying all those useless dslr, they only need one chinese phone to get the job done. sad, sad
ArG, 28 May 2020Hey guys. I'm not professional in photography's options and important specifications for photo... morei have no idea how other phones offer their manual controls but from the video review, probably not much for manual control or easy to navigate. so if you only need point and shoot camera, pretty much all modern phones are good enough for that, no need to buy this phone
same logic with why do you have to buy dslr while pretty much compact camera or phone camera are good enough to get the job done, to take a picture and share it on social media
SynthConn, 28 May 2020Still iPhone gonna charge more... and yet I think it's overpriced eventhough it's top notch de... moreIs the Sony Xperia 1 ii overpriced? I guess it will depend.
If you take full advantage of the screen watching 4k content (or even Netflix which will not work in 4k but will be upscaled) or use the full potential of the manual photo and video capabilities, or plan to keep the phone minimum 3 or 4 years, then no other phone, cheaper or otherwise, can match it.
If on the other hand you mostly watch YouTube videos are quite happy with leaving the camera on automatic, and will probably change your phone after 2 years anyway, Then yes it is overpriced because the difference you will see with any 800€ phone will not be worth 1/3 of the price.
And I am not saying 1 type of user is better than the other.
Of course I am only comparing to other brands prices. Another question would be if all brands are overcharging. Without a breakdown of component costs that is difficult to answer.
aksae, 27 May 2020its an awesome phone but $1200 is just too much. V60 would be a better choice at $800, comes w... moreStill iPhone gonna charge more... and yet I think it's overpriced eventhough it's top notch device. However let's be honest from now on the phone prices will sky rocket !!!
Doom, 28 May 2020No reason to get the Xperia 1 II at all. In fact, after having produced phones for so long, So... moreWell since the other phones have notches/punch holes and no audio jack (with a good DAC) they're really no option for me. Also they don't offer that much manual control over the camera like Sony does. If you like the other phones more buy them, but understand that not every person is like you.
guys in simple word...
1) sony is phone who will last longer then other phones,... because they are selling durable expensive products.
2) +you pay for technology, sony manufacture their own hileigh end over expensive professional cameras, tvs and other own hi end technologies. apple just buying parts from other companies,
if you want long lasr durability + hi tech, go sony otherwise buy anything else
Anonymous, 28 May 2020Interesting about ignoring fanboys. The only 2 people (one was me) who replied both recommende... moreThat's because he answered his question himself.
"But I think MegaPixel very famous and important" and "Not a Professional user".
Obviously what sony is offering here is not for normal user. If one reads the most of the comments here, they will definitely able to decide themselves what's good for them.
Doom, 28 May 2020No reason to get the Xperia 1 II at all. In fact, after having produced phones for so long, So... moreInteresting about ignoring fanboys. The only 2 people (one was me) who replied both recommended the Samsung, . Not because the Sony is a bad phone but because he obviously is not going to use the best features the Sony offers. That is not to say that there is no reason to get the sony as you so crudely put it. Given the correct interests and uses by a given user this phone is the better choice
ArG, 28 May 2020Hey guys. I'm not professional in photography's options and important specifications for photo... moreNo reason to get the Xperia 1 II at all. In fact, after having produced phones for so long, Sony has not really keep up on producing phones people want, only more to satisfy themselves. Skip this phone and go for Samsung / Huawei.
I am not like many fanbois here. I used to be Samsung's fan (Note 2), but I decided to go with Oneplus 3 when it is time to upgrade. Loved the phone, but due to non expandable storage, bought a LG V20 (worst decision ever) and now using a Huawei Mate 20 X.
Don't fall for fanboism. If you look carefully, this phone's main sensor at 1/1.7" is not that great at all. It is the same as my Mate 20 X launched 1.5 years ago. Unless you are the early adopter type, don't bother with Sony. Their time has pass. Let them produce great phones for at least 2 years, before jumping in.
Smithravi, 28 May 2020Here are the samples from DPR taken by Xperia 1 II:
https://www.dpreview.com/samples/50316692... moreBefore someone commenting back
The blur on one/two particular shots could be simply maybe he might have shook a little bit or it could also be dog is too fast for that picture. He also have other dog pictures where it is moving and has no blur. Judging a mobile capability based on one picture is BAD.
PS:They can be adjusted with ISO/SS/Exposure/WB/dedicated modes (P/S/M) given in the app. He has taken according to his likes. You can take according to your liking. That's what is all about having CONTROL where other "smart brands" fail.
Here are the samples from DPR taken by Xperia 1 II:
Those are the natural colours I want to store in my mobile. Not some fancy AI pics.
Those pictures on good lighting (Especially Dog pics and its fur) are excellent. Good details and nice colours according to me.
RishiGuru, 27 May 2020From what I heard the name of this phone is to be prounced as:
Sony Xperia One Eye Eye
I... moreI am curious how these people pronounce % or #.
" ii " can be read as "mark 2", if those people don't know why not don't listen the full video on introduction.
Anonymous, 26 May 2020That is all fair enough, no complaints. however if you have a friend with a 4k Sony device try... moreWhen it comes to watching movies & videos on a smartphone, the width of the display becomes the most significant factor for me. Next comes quality, density & aspect ratio of the display. A wider display will show much bigger characters in a movie which in turn helps my eyes to identify the micro details of a character in much more detail. A motion picture is always in motion and our brains gets much less time to process in real time than say a still picture. This is where a wider display plays a big role. The very reason why big televisions exists in first place is because it shows much bigger characters and a more immersive experience comes by default. Size does matter.
I have proper sized hands and have no issues using big and wider phones with wider displays. I prefer big displays. It that sense Vivo NEX S is currently my best companion for watching multimedia. This phone was launched in India back in 2018 for $675. The phone comes with a near border-less, notch-less, 6.6 inch, Samsung AMOLED FullHD+ panel with 388 ppi pixel density. It has more pixel density than my eyes can process. With a 19.3:9 aspect ratio this AMOLED panel has a display width of 7.1 mm while being 6 inches tall.
Playing 21:9 cinematic movies will cause black side bars but that can be easily mitigated by any good video player to go to full screen mode. Of-course now some cropping will take place in extreme left and right, but our eyes are almost always glued to the subject which almost always remains near center.
If I watch the same video say in Sony Xperia 1 II, in full screen mode there will be no cropping and no black bars. The Xperia's 21:9 display is as tall as NEX's 6 inches, but now we are dealing with much smaller 6.5 mm display width. A difference of 7.1 - 6.5 = 0.6 mm width is huge in smartphone space as the characters will now appear much smaller but with higher 643 ppi pixel density which no human eyes are able to differentiate from 388 ppi of NEX.
An analogy will be Vivo NEX S have a similar display width of an older 5.7 inch (16:9) display while that of Xperia 1 II is of a 5.2 inch (16:9) display. In multimedia and movies their is big chance of the good quality 5.7 inch display with over 300 ppi pixel density winning just due to the real estate available over the smaller 5.2 inch display with even higher pixel density.
But then again that was me and my preferences. Others may vary.
Smithravi, 28 May 2020So according to a battery test conducted by a Japanese reviewer. Daily battery life on Xperia ... moreIt seems a little quick to come to conclusions battery life gets better after a while of use. I personally don't think motion blur will use up all of the extra battery. It won't compete against the best endurance phones but it will easily get most users through the day I would have thought judging by previous models I have had