Sony Xperia 1 II - user opinions and reviews
- Anonymous
- LHe
joe nodden, 26 May 202020 fps and 60 calculations a second? What? What are you even trying to say? 20 fps isn't good.... moreI am certain you are lost at this point. You have some point of view you want to prove but you are just rambling.
- Anonymous
- pGj
joe nodden, 26 May 2020Bud I think you're the one not getting this. Whatever you're talking about even if it's the ri... moreI'm very sorry, but judging by all your negative comments I assumed that you had at least read the spec sheet before going on to say how terrible this phone is.
I am not about to give you a full photography lesson, but basically exposure levels must be calculated in order for the photo to have the correct exposure. A simple change of light angle can render a photo over or under exposed. This must be compensated (calculated) by adjusting a different setting be it iso or shutter speed, (it is locked at f1.7, otherwise it would also be considered)
It is very easy for a phone to take burst shots, however this is the first that actually will change the settings on each individual photo of the burst mode if needed.
In any case the point I was making is that you are mistaken about Sony not being a good camera for photography and being 2 generations behind.
If you are going to keep saying how bad te phone is at least stick bashing refresh rate and quick charge that at least are theoretically worse than other phones
- joe nodden
- jpa
Vineet Reddy, 26 May 2020Seriously you should check out Japanese reviews which rolled out the last week as there were s... moreBut none of those phones have impressive cameras. The P40 Pro or Mi 10 Pro or ones like that would be impressive to beat, but not those.
- joe nodden
- jpa
Vineet Reddy, 26 May 2020Even at 4K it could easily. Not an issue. Except it couldn't. Give me video evidence of it lasting that long just merely playing a 4k (preferably 60 fps) video the whole time then I'll believe you. No switching out of YouTube where the phone automatically switches to 1080p.
- joe nodden
- jpa
Anonymous, 26 May 2020I will try to explain this slower this time for.your benefit.
The Xperia 1 ii can take 20 fra... moreBud I think you're the one not getting this. Whatever you're talking about even if it's the right idea I don't think you're not using the correct terms to describe it. I used quotation marks and searched and saw that a few other sites try to say "60 calculations per second" to describe the autofocus capabilities. But they don't use context that shows they know what it means. So I'm not sure they're even using the right terms. When people say calculations per second, they're almost always talking about FLOPS, floating point operations per second. However, most things that are able to be measured in FLOPS are capable of at least a trillions FLOPS. (A TFLOP or teraFLOP) So what do they mean by 60 calculations per second? What calculations are they doing?
I get the 20 fps burst photo mode now after looking it up, because you didn't say they were photos instead of frames in a video. You can't just say frames and expect people to read your mind to know what kind of frames you're talking about.
- Anonymous
- pGj
joe nodden, 26 May 202020 fps and 60 calculations a second? What? What are you even trying to say? 20 fps isn't good.... moreI will try to explain this slower this time for.your benefit.
The Xperia 1 ii can take 20 frames in 1 second that will all be perfectly in focus and with the correct exposure as the Xperia 1 ii is capable of making 60 calculations a second (3x as many as photos, 20x3=60, yes? Good) in order to get the focus and exposure (exposure being the lighting). You still with me? Excellent
No other smartphone has or can do this. So it can't be 2 generations behind if it is the first phone to incorporate this feature.
Please let your counterarguments begin
- joe nodden
- jpa
Anonymous, 26 May 2020Why so much hate towards Sony? Have you ever owned one of their products? Being a hater is as ... moreFunny how it always comes down to "HaVe YoU EvEr OwNeD OnE oF THeiR ProduCtS?" As if me owning them makes their flaws suddenly vanish. And being a hater on one specific bad company is nowhere near as bad as being a fanboy. I'm not like an Apple fanboy pouncing on every single Android phone in existence for not having their precious little iMessage games.
- joe nodden
- jpa
Anonymous, 26 May 2020sure, original and edgy design also 240hz is better than 120hzIdk if you're being sarcastic or not, so I'm gonna assume you aren't and just go off that. Just because it's original doesn't mean it's great. And no 240hz isn't good when you've got a tiny battery. 90 or 120 is the sweet spot because they don't kill the battery too fast while also being well above what is considered acceptable smoothness.
- joe nodden
- jpa
Anonymous, 26 May 2020I don't know. 20fps and 60 calculations af a second doesn't seem too many generations behind t... more20 fps and 60 calculations a second? What? What are you even trying to say? 20 fps isn't good. And 60 calculations a second? Are you trying to talk about FLOPS or something? Even if you are, 60 isn't good.
And 960 fps slow mo was their only gimmick that wasn't a generation or 2 behind. Not that anyone even uses it.
- Anonymous
- sSV
Smithravi, 26 May 2020Since the offer is back again with black in Germany bundled with WH-1000XM3. I just ordered on... morenormally i don't like black color, kinda boring but this xperia 1 II in black color really stunning looking. keep us posted!
- Smithravi
- mKj
Others: I don't see any differences in video quality of X1 II to other phones
Also others: Watching 720p/1080p/1440p quality on FHD/QHD displays
- Exyvia
- Uia
Just going to leave this Motion Blur Reduction test here for people interested.
https://youtu.be/pSARiAHZZ00?t=392 (Also speed test at the start if you're interested)
You can go through frame by frame on youtube to see with the > and < keys.
- Smithravi
- mKj
RishiGuru, 26 May 2020Wow, that was a big jump. Thanks for pulling the trigger as now we hope to get some detailed i... moreOf course, I have been stuck with Z5 for too long. I needed an upgrade. X1 II is perfect embodiment of my Z5 design. I'm and always been active on reddit as well. There may be I might post my experience some time in future.
- Anonymous
- JT5
RishiGuru, 26 May 2020Ahh... those days of 2017 I used to go to known smartphone shops to buy phones. I was given sp... moreNow, tell everybody that v30+ has same screen issues of v30.
Same issues seen on Pixel 2 XL.
- RishiGuru
- utg
Smithravi, 26 May 2020Since the offer is back again with black in Germany bundled with WH-1000XM3. I just ordered on... moreWow, that was a big jump. Thanks for pulling the trigger as now we hope to get some detailed info regarding this phone from your future posts. Hope for the best and may the Xperia 1 II bring to the table what you have been waiting for.
- Smithravi
- mKj
Since the offer is back again with black in Germany bundled with WH-1000XM3. I just ordered one for myself. Can't wait till my hands get on it.
Boys from Germany, hurry up before the offer is taken down again like yesterday lol.
https://www.mobilcom-debitel.de/handys-smartphones/sony/sony-xperia-1-ii-ohne-vertrag/p/P-M-3277862?dcl=smartphones&ds=P-3353382
PS: My initial interest is Purple but unfortunately offer is only with black and availabe only at one seller
- Smithravi
- g8L
This the best device for anyone who cares and serious about colours and camera. Price is also not bad compared to OP 8 Pro and S20+. With the free Headsets bundle, you're only paying 950 for the mobile itself whihc is lessthan OP 8 Pro 1070 Price (with 70$/€ charger).
PS: Apart from refreshrates, there is actually nothing to complain about this mobile phone comparitvely. I just wish Apple/Samsung/Huaweii and other chiense mobiles to push down the Prices of flagships, so that Sony will also reduce the Price.
- Anonymous
- pGj
RishiGuru, 26 May 2020Ahh... those days of 2017 I used to go to known smartphone shops to buy phones. I was given sp... moreThat is all fair enough, no complaints. however if you have a friend with a 4k Sony device try watching a 4k/hd video side by side comparison. There is definitely a notable visible difference. Not to mention the better colours rendered on 4k.
It is then up to each person to decide if it is needed for their personal taste.
- RishiGuru
- gM}
Vineet Reddy, 25 May 2020I was comparing V30+ to XZ Premium not XZ1 as I thought it was 50K variant and you could have ... moreAhh... those days of 2017 I used to go to known smartphone shops to buy phones. I was given special access to their phones as I was a regular buyer. Those days are gone now and online e-commerce is flourishing and rage these days. I also followed the trend. Not complaining as online prices are far cheaper than offline market. At least in India.
I surely played with Xperia XZ Premium on the shop before landing on the XZ1. I did not see any benefit in spending $800 on XZ Premium. Even now think buying XZ1 was a mistake and just kept the XZ1 as a reminder of Sony after they were gone. While comparing the LG V30+ won fair and square while being $200 cheaper. Let me tell you why.
Why I didn't like the Sony Xperia XZ Premium:
1) Those huge chins top & bottom of the display and those bezels... the worst eyesore for a flagship of 2017. Bulky and dated design.
2) When you are spending 800 bucks, in-hand feel is of paramount importance. With those plastic side railings they just diluted the premium feel, it was more like holding a very cheap phone. In other words XZ Premium never felt premium in-hand.
3) I find anything over 300 dpi in mobile phone display resolution an overkill and impractical. You see our eyes have not changed so for anything other than VR, 4K is pure gimmick in a phone. Also with such a small display size VR was not an option. However saying all this, the old styled 16:9, 4K display was exceptionally good on XZ Premium. But then again it was expected when you are paying $800.
4) V30+ had the better rear camera of the two with OIS. XZ Premium never had OIS. V30+ also was more flexible with additional wide angle camera. The manual modes of LG camera software have no competition back then.
5) V30+ was the better multimedia powerhouse with modern 18:9 POLED display.
6) In India we got the V30+, so 128 GB of internal memory, twice that of Sony XZ Premium while being $200 cheaper.
7)The audio quality through headphone jack from both XZ1 & XZ Premium were just OK for causal listening. They never had the power to drive professional over-the-head cans and the audio quality.. well just say OK at best. The LG QuadDAC on LG V30+ aka the ESS ES9218P SABRE audio chip with 2 Vrms output at high gain mode decimated the XZ Premium to oblivion be in pure audio quality or headphone driving power. Also on V30+ you have default support for native DSD playback, MQA which are ultra rare in smartphones. Worldwide the de-facto standard for audiophiles are the LG V & G series and not any Sony. Period.
8) Just like XZ1, I found the XZ Premium stereo speakers good but not loud enough. Not only the V30+ was louder on a single speaker, my $260 Lenovo Vibe X3 was much louder while having more musical sounding front firing stereo speakers.
9) No support for wireless charging was a big bummer. V30+ had the support.
With half an hour of fiddling around with XZ Premium, playing some songs with my headphones and viewing some content I came to the conclusion that XZ Premium was just an overpriced phone. For $200 less V30+ was the better device of the two. But that was me. With time prices of both phones dropped but lets not delve into it and better focus on company projected prices in our country.
I just hope Sony did not cut corners with their latest flagship Xperia 1 II and overpriced it. Only time will tell.
- ALonZo
- Mn0
Whilst the phone is incredible for photography, and does have a gorgeous display, the lack of higher refresh rate being replaced by 'Motion Blue Reduction' remains to be seen if it provides smoothness overall. I'm not fussed about 4K on a mobile device, I've gone from a QHD to a 1080p display and I'm perfectly satisfied. What I do care about is having a smooth experience, especially when scrolling between pages and screens.
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