Fingerprint scanner is new type indded. Not same used by XZ Premium.
Anonymous, 19 May 2020The Huawei ban in US is all part of a giant trade war between US-China, nothing else.Correct!
[deleted post]I find it very impressive that Sony added 3.5mm, 20% larger battery, wireless charging (1*), better speakers (2*), larger main camera sensor + TOF, and 5G (3*) all in a package that is 0.3mm slimmer than its predecessor, Xperia 1.
1*) I'm not a fan of wireless charging, but it's nice to have.
2*) I assume the speakers are bigger because it uses a much powerful amp. (Dual CS35L41)
3*) 5G modem not integrated on 865 SOC, so it takes up space.
Anonymous, 13 May 2020Phones can in some way "expire", they can be outdated. When then Xperia will be released it wi... moreI think the pattern is that Sony always have availability of their new phones during summer months in Japan. In that case, they need to know why they're focusing on Summer Release. It could be accounting purpose that impacts their "financial year" periods. So there's only two options they can take:
1. Announce the phone late to make it as close to the availability date as possible. There's a risk involved here, if competitors announce ahead of time, they could lose the hype and lose market shares as customers got their hands on other competitor's phones early. It doesn't matter if Sony made a superior phone, customers won't spend money for another phone 3 months after getting another flagship.
2. Move the availability date earlier to MWC or even January. There's also a risk here, logistics need to be taken care of well ahead. Especially if they're aiming for a global availability. Manufacturing needs to be at full capacity well ahead, but because there's no announcement, they can't analyse the market on the demand for the phone. Overproduction would drive Sony to even bigger losses. They need to know how much their phone is in demand, and how to create new demand for their phones and manufacture them in the right balance to ensure cost-revenue is reached and start making profits.
Anonymous, 19 May 2020The Huawei ban in US is all part of a giant trade war between US-China, nothing else.Except how China doesn't even need to worry about laws, public opinion, or a tarnished image if the Chinese government wants any and all access to any data that is processed or stored on any machine in the country.
You can at least fight for privacy with non-Chinese companies/devices. Look what happened when American companies had back doors exposed, they were embarrassed and fixed them. China will just host the data or even the encryption keys and freely give that data to their government without warrant or even justification!
Nick.B, 19 May 2020So works for Europe and all World doesn't it ? What country has it's own production and owners... moreThe Huawei ban in US is all part of a giant trade war between US-China, nothing else.
My oppo find x2 pro just arrived and I just realised xperia 1 mark 2's screen will be too small for my needs :(
YogiBear83, 19 May 2020I dont stay on US side but chinese try to tell people that they produce hi-end electronics but... moreSo works for Europe and all World doesn't it ? What country has it's own production and owners of their companies are all from same companies. Machines are designed build and sold in this country and on those machines are done other production 100% from this country.
We just focus on China :) Not defending China as well me
What China does to electronics is pariable does not matter on what machines. Nobody can match them. Also they do make innovation themselves. I do believe companies like Huawei did not steal tech. Why 5G tech of Huawei is 3 years ahead of US tech since it's done on same machines for making codes and stuff ? Not all is hardware and that's main problem for US
Telephone, 19 May 2020I was just trying to agree with you.
Another thing to note. The VOOC is a proprietary technol... moreYes it does have proprietary charging.
But it also supports PD since it has a Qualcomm chipset.
So in absence of the VOOC charger, you can still charge with standard Qualcomm 4.0 charger albeit at lower 18W speeds.
Besides, the good things is that the 65W charger is bundled with the phone(they better do if they charging 1200 Euros) unlike Samsung where you have to buy 45W charger seperately with only 25W bundled in the box.
Anonymous, 19 May 2020
Since fast charging in early days was with increasing voltage which increased heat which in ... moreI was just trying to agree with you.
Another thing to note. The VOOC is a proprietary technology. Which means you will need to have a VOOC compatible charger with a supporting cable. For convenience, it would be better to have a standard charging system (such as PD). The thing i don't like about proprietary tech is that the company who patented the tech makes money off of it when smaller companies use it in their products. An example of this is Apples lightning connector. I have seen iPhone cables selling at a higher price than USB (micro and type c) from the same cable manufacturer.
Smithravi, 19 May 2020Coming from an anonymous name. Have some guts to put your Name first place before you speak so... moreThe above comment proves that you don't have any better comebacks or rational arguments to debate with or any valid links to prove your points.
Telephone, 19 May 2020How about this. I'm going to agree with you that OPPO has a good fast charging system with goo... more
Since fast charging in early days was with increasing voltage which increased heat which in turn plays the most significant role in battery degradation.
If you read the article carefully, when they say, traditional, it means without increasing voltage (the thing that used to exist on non fast charging phones).
But there is nothing traditional about the method as current is increased here which obviously wasn't the case with non fast charging phones.
JoelRaj-1002, 19 May 2020I've been watching this debate for so long and I don't really care nowadays to make people und... more"Everything is linked to maintain the temp of the phone (the claim of VOOC)."
Those claims have been verified during testing.
If you have followed the debate, you'll find links where Temps are proven to be in check with VOOC. While QUALCOMM quick charge and PD had higher Temps and consequently reduced charging speed in response as they use inferior charging tech which can't keep heat away.
I suggest you check out the Android authority links where they compare everything with in depth detail on how individual charging works,the software part, the materials used, the batteries used, the components, etc.
Most ppl here haven't fully read anything and simply assume Both QC, PD and VOOC is same thing. All your questions are answered there.
[deleted post]Coming from an anonymous name. Have some guts to put your Name first place before you speak so called "Facts". Using different VPNs and trolling a Smartphone is not how you call yourself rational. Go to Oppo thread.
Anonymous, 19 May 2020
Can you show me link where Oppo publicly admitted to battery degradation as you claimed? NOP... moreHow about this. I'm going to agree with you that OPPO has a good fast charging system with good results. But according to android authority, OPPO vooc uses a "traditional" method. Basically lower voltage charging. To me, traditional means old/ancient. Except oppo improved it.
People who want to use fast charging, will use it. People who don't will avoid using it frequently. This decision is up to the user. Simply use it, or don't.
[deleted post]I've been watching this debate for so long and I don't really care nowadays to make people understand the fact! Coz I have learned that once something is fed in human brain, it's hard for it to think apart from it. So, let's just make it simple- the much watts you introduce to an electrical system the much heat is generated. So, basically the 65W is going to bring more stress in your phone and battery to which eventually increases the temp. Now let's go to the next part- the phone, charger, cable and what else? Everything is linked to maintain the temp of the phone (the claim of VOOC). Now the other way around- as said before you can't stop the heat generated! Now, due to the 55W of power being introduced to the phone we are going to have an hotter components, battery, charger, cable, chips and even the case :p. Now to cool stuffs down the VOOC claims it lets everything cool down. Not gonna apply any coolant, no cold air blown, no air.... then how? They just gotta decrease the WATTS. AND IF THEY DO THEN IT'S NOT A FAST CHARGER ANYMORE! So how are they able to achieve this? For a better example-
You charge your phone with a 55 W charger for 5 minutes and the heat generated in joules goes rapidly high.
The VOOC algorithm, programming or whatever... say technology, comes to precaution and what happens then? They should decrease the Watts for at least couple of minutes to decrease the temp.
SO THE 65W wont be constant to call it something like supernatural (if you know what I mean). Any suggestions?
Anonymous, 19 May 2020
Can you show me link where Oppo publicly admitted to battery degradation as you claimed? NOP... moreThis comment proves that you are not in a state to think rational and arrogant. What I said is based on fundemantal science. I think you believe whatever a Company says without any authenticating real life Proofs. I have been loooking at your comments to other user where you simply unable to Digest the information and Graphs in the links provided. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not doing your dirty homework mate. If you really wanna find out Ultra fast charging degrades a battery or not, just use Internet. There are plenty of articles where it is proved fast charging degrades the battery in Long term.
Here i give you one Suggestion. Buy an Oppo Smartphone with 65W and use it for 2-3 years and come back here and share your experience.
Anonymous, 19 May 2020Ok. Oppo uses more advanced, faster tech, bigger battery which doesn't overheat, or degrade as... moreI personally don't care which phone you buy.
It's your money at the end of the day.
I simply can't digest ppl spreading misinformation about other brands including Sony.