Anonymous, 15 May 2020and do you have problem with that? as much as you probably hate sony, you shouldn't be bother ... moreYou do realize if sales and profits went down the way they are, you no longer will be able to enjoy Sony phones?
Sony just sold 400k units in Q1.
Most Chinese phones are selling that much in a few seconds in flash sales.
Don't you dare compare it to Lamborghini or Ferrari sales since those companies might have lower marketshare but they don't incur losses.
If they don't fix pricing, they'll be history soon like HTC.
Anonymous, 15 May 2020haha have some sense of humor, please. i'm not debating whether the phone performance is great... moreI got your sarcasm dont worry.
I just think that XZ2/3 design is unique but more appealing to women than men, and X1mkII is pure sleek industry tech design men like more yes.
Sony should offer both IMO.
I Remember the 2011 SE Neo/Arc/Ray times when phones were actually the same inside, but totally different on the outside design. Much more visual versatility in peoples hands, much better times than these, where phones are all looking all the same outside, with just a bit different innards.
But 3.5 mm jack ditch made more harm in 2018 than that design.
Sony fans made a statement by not buying those phones.
If anything, it was least expected from Sony of all to do that, they are the darn inventors of the thing.
Fortunately, its back, and supposedly on mkII better than ever before, with added enhanced channel separation, DSEE Ultimate and 3D reality audio.
Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020It aint s**t to her. Nor me.
You can have your opinion about its design and lack of jack, mi... morehaha have some sense of humor, please. i'm not debating whether the phone performance is great or not or whether your wife supposed to like it or not. everybody have their own tastes and needs. if a person like it, it's good then, i don't have problem with that. also considering the price your wife purchased that phone, it's seem like a great buy
my opinion was only for the design alone. when i look at sony smartphone, at least in the last 10 years. first thing came in my mind is sony z smartphone, that design so uniquely to sony and i could see that kind of design through all of their smartphones, mostly their flagships though, i haven't look much to their midrange or lower end offers, so i have no idea. but speaking of the flagships, from that very first z up to xz1. it's a sony. even xperia 1, and this xperia 1II back to that essence of z design. smart industrial professional looking, and as with sony you expect at least all usable I/O ports being offered, with specs, features whatever. even the UI is a sony, a minimalist clean UI. it's just part of sony charm
now we had xz2 and xz3 which for me kinda weird looking for sony phones. i can't really tell if it's a sony or not. if people like that designs, go ahead, i have no problem with that.to me personally i don't like it. now let's play a hypothetical question here. if sony xperia 1 II have all the same specs but with xz2/xz3 looking design. would you like it? to me i won't like it, but if majority of sony fans somehow like that xz2/xz3 designs then sony should hear them and use that design approach for their future products then
only few brands have that kind of unique designs, for me it's cool to have that kind of varieties, everybody have their own tastes and needs. otherwise we'll ended up with the all same looking boring products
Anonymous, 15 May 2020yeah well.... tell your wife that phone is a pure f***in s***. throw it away and buy a real so... moreIt aint s**t to her. Nor me.
You can have your opinion about its design and lack of jack, mine isnt too much different, but to her its superb.
Looking into the device tho, it is great in every aspect. Camera, sound, screen, battery, performance... for 300 it cost, its premium bang for buck for her needs.
Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020I am into mobile tech, but my wife isnt.
She got herself a midrange chn phone a year ago, she... moreyeah well.... tell your wife that phone is a pure f***in s***. throw it away and buy a real sony hahaha
when a brand already have a recognized design language like sony, there is always some "expectation" about their products whatever it is, whenever it is, it's just part of the company identity. i know it's hard to sell to broader audiences because taste and trends always changing but for die hard hardcore fans or someone that able to appreciate that kind of "niche" approach, a simple minor change could ruin everything. i'm not a sony fans, never had but i do appreciate some of the sony designs, especially in the old days and more recent products. to me, that xz2 is abomination, they should never put a sony name on it :D
for you who still own and still using older sony phone like z5 or xz1. do they still get an updates? what's the latest update for the os and security patch? how about battery life? and if the phones need to be serviced, does sony still offer repair services for those older models? i'm just curious about the after sales services from sony
Anonymous, 15 May 2020yeah i remember that with xz2. no headphone jack, back curve design, what else? do they have s... moreI am into mobile tech, but my wife isnt.
She got herself a midrange chn phone a year ago, she went mad about it a month ago, as she ended up charging it twice daily. Even my savy mobile knowledge couldnt solve that problem. She Asked me for an opinion this time, I said she should buy an XZ2 that was cheap on sale.
She aint interested in a jack, as she never uses it.
She loves XZ2 design, as it is a bit on feminine side.
It lasts her two whole days between charges.
XZ2 is indeed a great overall device with very capable camera, beside the fact it lacks the jack, and has indeed a slippery back design.
I wouldnt be satisfied with it, but she loves it.
Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020It went out just as I predicted 2 yrs ago, that they will sell barely enough to be afloat, as ... moreyeah i remember that with xz2. no headphone jack, back curve design, what else? do they have sdcard slot? i can't remember because it was pure f***in s***
Smithravi, 15 May 2020Do you know the battery capacity of Apple??? If you don't, then stop commenting any further. ... moresomehow those people just can't understand about power efficiency/power management. it's always about battery capacity. much simpler logic though, bigger capacity means longer power, never considering how much each parts draw power compare to the workload, added with power management, added with thermal design. all those raw capacity wouldn't add much advantages if all those considerations also not "ideal".but hey, who cares about real life performance? it's just much easier to judge with spec sheet and benchmark
Anonymous, 15 May 2020and do you have problem with that? as much as you probably hate sony, you shouldn't be bother ... moreIt went out just as I predicted 2 yrs ago, that they will sell barely enough to be afloat, as to come back to their senses and fanbase. With mkII they did.
They removed the jack in 2018, sales dropped significantly up to now, as fanbase refused to support that nonsense move with their money, me included.
Now they brought it back and the fanbase interest is back at pre 2018 level... I just hope it now translates to sales and income surplus...
Anyways, I think 2019 50% drop from already low 2018 sales isnt a big YoY hit for a company that big, with smartphone buissness numbers that low, to cease production, as it affects its overall yearly profit in 1digit percentage.
Problem of mobile cutoff would arise if company's overall yearly profit was highly dependant on smartphone buisness, and then be hit with 50% sales drop.
It is yet to be seen how this covid year will turn out for any and all OEMs, but I suspect some mobile only oriented OEMs will implode first, as a result of significantly lower global smartphone sales.
The situation is already present, as companies like Xiaomi, highly dependant on mobile only, are going all out, releasing more than a dozen models in mere three months, just trying to compensate low sales globaly.
SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 14 May 2020What is poor battery care batteries? Lol
Higher capacity is higher capacity.
Besides, comp... moreSO according to you 5000mah with poor management can outlast good battery care for 4000 mah. Do you make any sense??? Do you have any proofs?? Apple, Samsung and Sony are dumbos like chinese mobiles and buyers.
PS: Oppo publicly said that their 40W degrades the battery to 70% capacity (3500mah out of 5000mah) compared to 15W would to 90% capacity (3600 out of 4000mah). Imagine if just disabling super ultra fast charging can increase your battery longevity, what a good batetry care throughput its life can do. No body cares about what you think. Company who made 65W and 50W themselves confirmed it, it's all crock of bs marketing race seeking to have the bigger numbers. You're just one of those fallen pool.
Example2: Imagine you ran out of your 5000mah within 6 hours and 4000mah withint 7 hours. Who will reach 300 cycle mark faster???Think. Use brain.
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Did you just include iPhone in good battery care section? Lol and you call yourself educated?
... moreDo you know the battery capacity of Apple??? If you don't, then stop commenting any further.
Of course, the best battery care is always with Sony. But no where those 5000mah have any see-able benefit with poor management. Same goes to ram management.
Love Sony or hate Sony nobody should be pleased if they pull out of the mobile phone market. They will always innovate something useful which will later be seen on other makes also, they will push other companies to innovate and they will, in theory, keep the prices lower of all flagships from any brand. At the moment I will buy the Xperia 1 ii, it is good in the areas that I consider important (screen, camera, audio, future proof) the quick charge I don't care about, the battery will be fine, like on all other Sony phones I have had to last the day. Higher refresh rate would have been nice, but at the moment you must pick. And for me 4k is the more important
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Yes. That's the reason why sony keep losing customers every year.
and do you have problem with that? as much as you probably hate sony, you shouldn't be bother if sony went bust
if sony cares about their sales, they'll copycat all those popular products on the market already just like every chinese companies did.it shouldn't be hard for sony just to do that. better sales right
Telephone, 15 May 2020Yes, that is true. There isn't really much benefit having a slimmer phone. Sony managed to inc... moreOuch. You gave me cancer with that photo of the tablet. :D
Ahahah...What a way to "fix" it.
Anyways, I agree. I dont mind a phone being even up to 1 cm thick, as long as it has a bigger batttery for it, or at least no back camera bump.
But I remember not long ago, when people quarelled here about the trendy thinner phones that went even under 7 mm with huge back camera bumps. Back at the days it was popular to have as thin as possible, justified only by popular design trend of the year, just like today screen cutouts and bholes are justified by bezeless trend. The quarell somehow went into oblivion as thickness war is now irrelevant to people, just as the bezeless, notches and bholes will be irrelevant soon enough.
Anonymous, 14 May 2020Big batteries can be fit in phones under 9mm.
No need for ultra thin phones.
They can be of ... moreYes, that is true. There isn't really much benefit having a slimmer phone. Sony managed to increase battery capacity of the Xperia 1II without making the phone bigger. (compared to Xperia 1) But adding 1mm to a phone can increase the capacity by a good amount.
If a battery with the dimensions of 135x45x5 has the capacity of 3334mah, then a battery with the dimensions 135x45x6 (1mm increased thickness) should have about 4000.8mah.
20% increase battery capacity.
4-5 years ago, I had to replace the battery in my android tablet because the battery was "a fire hazard" (Nvidia shield tablet battery recall) So instead of sending back the unit, I replaced the 5200mah battery with a much larger 10,000mah battery.
It looks horrible, but it works!
https://i.imgur.com/R8Pv76y.jpg Alot of space under the battery because that was the only battery I could find that would fit.
It stays on about 2 weeks with the screen off. LOL
SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 14 May 2020What is poor battery care batteries? Lol
Higher capacity is higher capacity.
Besides, comp... moreSeriously?
You just made this dumb comment?
First, own any Sony phone with Batterycare, use it for 2 yrs at least, then feel obliged to write this kind of nonsense...
Secondly, show us as proof battery degradation percentage of any Xiaomi device after two yr use via a dedicated app, if it even survived that long...
My wifes chnese OEM phone with low HD screen and 4000 maH ended up charging twice a day after just one year of use. Its dead weight on a shelf now. I could use an app to measure its battery degradation level if you insist, but Im affraid it will be quite a big percentage.
On the other hand I have screenshot proof of Sonys batterycare efficiancy, with only 10% degradation after over 1000 charge cycles, so do not even intend to debate this with you further...
Jezzz, if anything, at least dont brag around about battery longeivity from chnese OEMs, they are really lousy at it.
Smithravi, 14 May 20208K recording this date is as useless as 100x zoom and 32GB rams on smartphone. Period. I clear... moreWhy are you f*cling injecting yourself into the convo again.
That reply wasn't meant for you. Again you are being nosy.
That's why I called you that you aren't man enough.
Like an Attention-H0 trying to make yourself relevant.
Smithravi, 14 May 2020Why are you copy pasting my own lines to swear back lmao.
As I said everything is availabl... moreDid you just include iPhone in good battery care section? Lol and you call yourself educated?
IPhones are notorious for battery degradation.
Heck apple slows them down with updates so you can upgrade. They are even paying fines for the same.
No point arguing with delusionals like you.