Ali Bashir, 20 Dec 2017IPhone X and LG V30 and some other smartphones, dual camera and some other camera hardware fea... morewhat? "Smart tech" ??
LOL. aaahahaahaah. please stop sharing crappy non-reputable site like that.
how about this?
3D Memorys, 21 Dec 2017Xperia XZ1 better than competitors in nights shot: https://youtu.be/bhqSyQ6f9Q4no one believe to non reputable source like yours. What about gsma and dxo? do you believe them?
3D Memorys, 21 Dec 2017Xperia XZ1 better than competitors in nights shot: https://youtu.be/bhqSyQ6f9Q4Yes, sony xperia xz1 is slightly better, color production looks more natural and there is no blair cause by headlight.
Xperia XZ1 better than competitors in nights shot:
Ali Bashir, 20 Dec 2017Sorry but my post down there is a free post and not a reply to anyone, btw, i see you are camp... moreYeah, not sure what you are on about with the whole location codes thing I am sorry, might be that it is you that spends too much time on here.........
Lose my job, not sure what you are getting at there either???
That video only allows for the viewer to draw their own conclusions, which you have done and then posted it on here passing it off as fact. An opinion is one thing, but that is not what you were trying to push now is it.
Those kind of videos are all over YouTube, random shots presented with some truly awful sounding backing music, they offer no real substance and lead to no conclusions. Their only purpose it seems is as click bait and to promote fanboy bicker contests in their respective comments sections.
They are the sloppiest kind of so called comparison video, which is why the channels producing them never seem to grow much.
Lex79, 20 Dec 2017Random shots presented without any pretext, the producer could have spend hours selecting both... moreSorry but my post down there is a free post and not a reply to anyone, btw, i see you are camping here on this thread waiting for anyone to drop a post praising Sony and make things to the opposite, what is the idea?? Some kind of desperation or anyway, most camera comparisons on YouTube xz1 and xz premium, xz1 compact were the best performance and had the most interest in the comment threads.
I don't want to go farther so you might lose your job, btw, most the people supported you down there especially the Anonymous's i know them one by one through their location codes they are fanboys of another brands they come to Sony threads between time and another to bash Sony, Good luck.
Ali Bashir, 20 Dec 2017IPhone X and LG V30 and some other smartphones, dual camera and some other camera hardware fea... moreRandom shots presented without any pretext, the producer could have spend hours selecting both the best and worst examples in order to lead the viewer to a specifically desired conclusion.
Sorry but there is nothing conclusive about that video.
IPhone X and LG V30 and some other smartphones, dual camera and some other camera hardware features and still no use against Sony.
Sony Xperia xz1 vs IPhone X vs LG V30 camera comparison.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 20 Dec 2017During the Z series lineup Sony can be said as the top 3rd best smartphone manufacturer. Years... moreIn terms of recommendation, yes they are certainly way down the list. At least in the flagship space, certain areas or the market show as being somewhat more favourable to Xperia devices.
That is to say they do ok in the mid tier with the likes of their XA series, in often see reviews of mid tiers devices where the reviewer will mention the XA1 say as an alternative.
The 'Compact' series all but recommended themselves as they are pretty much the only game in town for high power smaller handsets.
Flagships though, if you look at the mainstream flagship segment then virtually no one will point to an XZ, XZs or XZ1 as their recommended choice.
The 'Premium' line barely fares any better, yes I see a few caveated recommendations here and there, but they always fall along the reasoning lines of 'only get this device if that 4 screen is a must....'
Personally (and im sorry to keep coming back to it) but I personally feel this is largely do to the camera experience. Put a Pixel 2 quality camera and intuitive ui on the XZ1 and XZP and I think the recommendations would come far easier.
Sony have pretty much everything else right, just one last piece of the puzzle.........
Lex79, 20 Dec 2017Exactly, point and shoot is the smartphone camera's raison d'être. Manual mode is meant ... moreDuring the Z series lineup Sony can be said as the top 3rd best smartphone manufacturer. Years past, now they are right at almost the bottom of the list when someone recommend high-end flagships to someone else, most wouldn't recommend not because of the bezels, it is because of the unconsistency of the camera. And this is why I always say they need to do something with their camera, image machine learning is always a welcome
Anonymous, 19 Dec 2017Isnt that strange that they manufactured the camera sensor of other brand and yet other people... moreI'd certainly speculate that it has something to do with it. A high MP count on a relatively small sensor with (what is now considered) a relatively slow aperture is going to be difficult to get good results out of across a range of conditions.
In some conditions the XZ delivered spectacular results, but it was unreliable and vastly inconsistent.
Put it this way, if you have bright clear sunlight and a static image, then the XZ could trade blows with any of them, for pretty much any other circumstances, you can get better (with less effort) out of the best of the competition.
daimon, 19 Dec 2017agree. sony has to redisign its xperia camera. there are too many complaints about it especial... moreThey need to do something, Sony's camera experience doesn't get much love outside of fanboy praise, with good reason I would say.
But it's Sony, if they wanted to step up their game and match the current best, they could easily do so.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 20 Dec 2017Agreed. The new Manual Mode on my newer ones can handle low-light better than previous ones, b... moreExactly, point and shoot is the smartphone camera's raison d'être. Manual mode is meant to be an optional supplement, not a necessary replacement for auto mode picture taking.
If rumours are to be believed we may be seeing a radical change in Sony's approach to the camera hardware in 2018. I get and appreciate why you want to stay with the high MP approach, but I for one would be interested to see what Sony can do coming for a different perspective.
Like I have said repeatedly, the camera setup is my last gripe with the Xperia line, if so then can replicate what Good have achieved with the Pixel camera, then I would be more than willing to give another Xperia a go.
king xperia, 20 Dec 2017Your welcome, buddy. Now that's being honest. Unlike some invaders, haters and paid critics al... moreIn other words you like what is said, so you equate that with honesty.....hmm
And what are they welcome for, what did you do for them?
Norchan, 19 Dec 2017Sony products are very high quality, such an honor to have this phone. Your welcome, buddy. Now that's being honest. Unlike some invaders, haters and paid critics all over this place. Just unbelievable, whose place reek of sony haters.
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017That's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main... moreAgreed. The new Manual Mode on my newer ones can handle low-light better than previous ones, but it still cannot handle noise that good. I mean like seriously, u can't have everyone use the Manual Mode, some just want to point and shoot, if Sony have the kind of machine learning image solution found in Google's current smartphones, I would be impressed, since I want Sony to keep the megapixel count as high as possible. I know currently other brands are reducing the megapixel count to 12MP for better low-light photos, but they are missing out on detail. My wish is that one day some brand (I expect Sony to do it first though) have some super intelligent image learning processing paired with high megapixel count that only produces noise like current 12MP smartphone cameras produce. That will require much more effort in making the software more than the ones with lesser megapixels. But if Sony wants to do that, they have to put in more effort in the software to make it work
I have XZ1 and my girlfriend has S8. None of them is better, are just different phones with different approaches! For me XZ1 built quality is a jewelry as its the best I have ever touched, I like better the blacks on my XZ1 than S8 but S8 bezless screen is awesome! XZ1 on the other hand its faster, and I mean the fealing that you get is a super fast phone! The sound is ...no comment, best stereo on smartphone! Some issues with Oreo but I think they will be fixed. Finally S8 takes better pictures and faster, I dont no why but they are better!
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017That's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main... moreagree. sony has to redisign its xperia camera. there are too many complaints about it especially the automode and low light. i hope 2018 flagship will finally solve this issue
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017That's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main... moreIsnt that strange that they manufactured the camera sensor of other brand and yet other people says that other brand could take better photos, when I visit their site, they said that they use their best sensor on xz1. Probably the only downfall of their sensor is the aperture which is f/2 unlike others who use bigger aperture. I want to have this product. For me Sony Xz1 is still the best there is in the market
Anonymous, 19 Dec 2017The only cons I see on Sony is not the product but lack of advertisement for their product. Gr... moreThat's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main (perhaps even now the only) 'con' in the Xperia line has been and remains the camera implementation.
I have used a multitude of devices from different OEMs, and both the Xperia camera ui and the results offered are inferior to the best I have used, by my reckoning.
That opinion is also shared by many professional tech reviewers who rarely (if ever) list Xperia devices as the recommendation for smartphone camera solutions.
Until Sony go back to the drawing board regarding their smartphone camera philosophy, I'll remain unimpressed.