Lex79, 11 Dec 2017Ah, so they have fixed that have they? It was one of the annoying things I noticed on the XZ. ... moreNope, they haven't fixed the Manual Mode for older smartphones yet, not an issue for me, since I buy their high-end flagships every year since 2013, so I am getting a much newer camera software every year. But the problem lies when other users use it. Some don't buy their smartphone every single year like me would like to have the newer camera software on their older ones too. Because until now I still think that my whole Z series (I have the XPERIA Z1, XPERIA Z2, XPERIA Z3, XPERIA Z3+, XPERIA Z5 and XPERIA Z5 PREMIUM from the Z series, still running perfectly till now) are still capable of shooting some decent photos, and can definitely take much better photos if the current Manual Mode found in my XPERIA XZ1 is implemented into them. For example the XPERIA XA1, with that same 23MP camera, but with a newer camera software, takes much better photos thanks to the better post processing algorithms compared to my XPERIA X, XPERIA X PERFORMANCE & my XPERIA XZ. My suggestion is to bring the new camera software to the older high-end flagships they made in the past, maybe some of the problems might be solved for the older ones. I haven't received ANDROID OREO yet for my older X smartphones, and I didn't hear them saying about anything new to the camera software, so I am still not sure if they are going to bring the new software especially to my XPERIA XZ, because that is my daily driver and most of the time I would be outside and I would be using that to take photos instead of using my newer XPERIA XZs XPERIA XZ PREMIUM and XPERIA XZ1, besides I have been counting on Manual Mode at night instead of Superior Auto
Anonymous, 11 Dec 2017A fan will not be a fan if he see only pure negativity on the product. I guess its not sony fa... moreAnd I am the user... I do own them and that's why I am saying it out some problems that hope they can do about it...
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017Yes it is true that Sony smartphones are not in the top when it comes to camera performance, b... moreAh, so they have fixed that have they? It was one of the annoying things I noticed on the XZ. 'Manual' mode was actually ISO/Shutter priority mode, they could not be independently set.
Like I said previous 'Manual' controls on Xperia devices were quite poor, in addition to the above issue, colour temperature could only be set according to 5 presets, strangely though a granular control could be activated in auto mode, for......well reasons known only to Sony.
So yes, Sony continues to make improvements (they finally have added a exposure compensation control, which is nice of them), but the app still isn't laid out as intuitively as some of the competition and I don't see many (if any) tech reviews/journals pushing current or past Xperia devices as their recommended camera solutions.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017Yes it is true that Sony smartphones are not in the top when it comes to camera performance, b... moreA fan will not be a fan if he see only pure negativity on the product. I guess its not sony fans who could appreciate sony camera on smartphone. I think it takes skills and knowledge in order to get the best quality sony smartphone has to offer. Dont give comment as a fan, give comment as.experienced user of xperia phone.
Lex79, 10 Dec 2017King Xperia????......and we're not in anyway way expecting any bias on your part are we. An... moreYes it is true that Sony smartphones are not in the top when it comes to camera performance, but it is still one of the best that tech reviewers will recommend. And I feel u bro, for the XPERIA XZ and older ones which I am still using the Manual Mode cannot tune the ISO and shutter speed together, and the newer one like my XPERIA XZs, XPERIA XZ PREMIUM & XPERIA XZ1, can tune both at the same time. But still it is a shame that Sony didn't bring the newer camera software to the older ones, because I am pretty sure my XPERIA Z5 can do all those tuning too with its 23MP camera. Yep I am a Sony fanboy, but I do not protect Sony, I am telling my thoughts as a user
king xperia, 09 Dec 2017Stop arguing! Xperia destroys the galaxy and other phones while on tripod( lack of ois) and i... moreKing Xperia????......and we're not in anyway way expecting any bias on your part are we.
Anyhow as I pointed out previously, but seems i now have to reiterate, I was mentioning how the conversation has changed from Xperia cameras simply being the best outright, to now being the best if you fiddle around with the manual settings and such.
End results are too nuanced to be decided here, not many reviewers and tech enthusiasts will agree that Xperias are in the top bracket of camera performance, but at least there appears a consensus that improvements continue to be made.
But if people are going to suggest that manual controls are a must then (as I said previously) there are better options. Sony's camera ui is far from the most intuitive on the market.
Can't speak to how things have changed in recent software updates, but the manual mode on the XZ when I was using it was an absolute joke.
king xperia, 09 Dec 2017Stop arguing! Xperia destroys the galaxy and other phones while on tripod( lack of ois) and i... moreOne thing I noticed after Oreo update...
in automode at lowlight my camera now recognizes the stability provided, so even automode now shoots at 1s shutter and 200 ISO it you hold it steady...
For ocassional handheld use it shoots at 1/16 s and about 1000/1250 ISO, or 1/8 at some 600/800 ISO....
At dusk it now acts as in daylight, shooting at some 1/100 s shutter, and really catches the scenario as it is, not overblowing brights....
Indeed, lowlight shots come out superb even in automode with this new autosettings...
No need for me to go manual on most lowlight ocassions.
Now it just reacts much better in auto, reognizing the shake and adapting shutter much faster.
Very satisfied with new Oreo camera improvements. :-)
Lex79, 04 Dec 2017Yeah, look Sony are making improvements to be sure, the camera ui (and the camera experience a... moreStop arguing! Xperia destroys the galaxy and other phones while on tripod( lack of ois) and in manual mode. fact!
TrueSonyFan, 08 Dec 2017Tell me 1 solid fact based on a trial that qnovo works as advertised. You must read ALL of these side and don't take a sentence of a part to begin your bias comments...
Btw, how do you proven the Samsung battery quality with real results.
UltimateZeroSeconds, 06 Dec 2017Nobody will trust you as you are a Sony hater, every comment is bias. Tell me 1 solid fact based on a trial that qnovo works as advertised.
I have used the Xperia Z1 since early 2014, I have not had any major issues. I love the fact the glass is shatter proof. Please can I be recommended a good upgrade.
Tann Hauser, 07 Dec 2017Dont worry about that. According to my 4.5 yr old Z1c, any app or game can be installed and ... moreTrue, thanks to the updates the performance improved a lot if u compare it with the version it came out of the box, I would say the performance is on par with even the new XPERIA XA1 and other MEDIATEK P23 chipset smartphones, even though it have been 4 years for my XPERIA Z1
xperia xperia, 07 Dec 2017hi,is this phone worth the money or i wait xperia 2018?I would say it's worth it. But you never know what 2018 brings. If you really want a phone right now, I strongly recommend this!. If you have a decent phone and have no real need for upgrade. Then wait and see what Sony does next year. I'm pretty sure they will do something crazy.
dragonov, 08 Dec 2017no the XZ
and the XZ1 is just a minor upgrade over it that is not worth buying due to the in... moreYou can't come here and talk about your xz. I had xz before the main board died after just two weeks. The xz camera is not as good and the build is cheap compared to the xz1. My friend have the xz and some times I compare it with mine and there is no way in hell you can say its a minor update. The xz1 is a refined xz with perfect performance. So please go to the xz page and complain about that mistake of a phone.
Sony made a mistake releasing so many phones in a short window. That's why many people are sceptic about getting the latest.
I would recommend xz1 to anyone. Would not recommend xz. Why?.
Xz1 pros over xz.
HDR screen! It's much nicer, colors are popping!
Much better speaker sound, I've compared with my friends xz.
Just overall snappier!
Camera is better not by a lot but still better.
bettey holds longer. I get 2days easy but im not a heavy user.
The overall build. It's metal! Feels like it would brake the floor if you drop it and the screen can take some beating without getting scratches. Xz is just some high quality plastic that feels cheap and the screen get scratches more easily.
This is my opinion tho, but I've owned almost every 2017 flagship and I like this the best :).
This is fact from a daily user of Xz1 ;) just saying.
Anonymous, 07 Dec 2017Do you have the xz1.no the XZ
and the XZ1 is just a minor upgrade over it that is not worth buying due to the insignificant differences and the high price.
Tann Hauser, 07 Dec 2017Dont worry about that. According to my 4.5 yr old Z1c, any app or game can be installed and ... moreThank you so much for your reply! Much appreciated. I'm not that tech savvy that I need the latest and greatest, but I do need a new phone within six months or so. I rather not do an even more "stupid" decision - if you see what I mean 😏 I'll think I go with your suggestion and get an older flagship instead of a midranger.
Vic, 06 Dec 2017Okay - thanks! What I'm particularly concerned about is that the browser or other more importa... moreDont worry about that.
According to my 4.5 yr old Z1c, any app or game can be installed and works flawlessly still, except some newly released high end graphic games (and not all), as now old SD 800 doesnt support newest OpenGL builds for 3d graphics...
But, some of those newest games work too on good ol' Z1c, even if plystore says "not compatible", if you install via some "non playstore .apk " ;-)
Vic, 06 Dec 2017Hi all, got a quick question : How long does Sony typical support their Xperia phones? Regerin... moreSupport goes to about 2.5 years
Id suggest a 2016 flag instead of a 2018 midranger, much more software updates and eventual software fixes on those...
For ex, I got now about 1.5 year old model X Performance, from Marsh to Nougat, to Oreo a week ago, and am certain I ll get some more firmware updates over at least half a year more...
For about the same price you can get that, or some newly released midranger, that will eventually get an update to a new post Oreo android build.
X Perf probably wont....but an old flag still has better SoC, build, feats and software optimisation overall, for about the same price (300 bucos now).
If you decide new midranger, be sure its some higher level midranger, not lower mid...
For ex higher mid Xperia X gets more frequent updates, while lower mid XA doesnt so much...