Lex79, 19 Dec 2017That's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main... moreAgreed. The new Manual Mode on my newer ones can handle low-light better than previous ones, but it still cannot handle noise that good. I mean like seriously, u can't have everyone use the Manual Mode, some just want to point and shoot, if Sony have the kind of machine learning image solution found in Google's current smartphones, I would be impressed, since I want Sony to keep the megapixel count as high as possible. I know currently other brands are reducing the megapixel count to 12MP for better low-light photos, but they are missing out on detail. My wish is that one day some brand (I expect Sony to do it first though) have some super intelligent image learning processing paired with high megapixel count that only produces noise like current 12MP smartphone cameras produce. That will require much more effort in making the software more than the ones with lesser megapixels. But if Sony wants to do that, they have to put in more effort in the software to make it work
I have XZ1 and my girlfriend has S8. None of them is better, are just different phones with different approaches! For me XZ1 built quality is a jewelry as its the best I have ever touched, I like better the blacks on my XZ1 than S8 but S8 bezless screen is awesome! XZ1 on the other hand its faster, and I mean the fealing that you get is a super fast phone! The sound is ...no comment, best stereo on smartphone! Some issues with Oreo but I think they will be fixed. Finally S8 takes better pictures and faster, I dont no why but they are better!
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017That's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main... moreagree. sony has to redisign its xperia camera. there are too many complaints about it especially the automode and low light. i hope 2018 flagship will finally solve this issue
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017That's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main... moreIsnt that strange that they manufactured the camera sensor of other brand and yet other people says that other brand could take better photos, when I visit their site, they said that they use their best sensor on xz1. Probably the only downfall of their sensor is the aperture which is f/2 unlike others who use bigger aperture. I want to have this product. For me Sony Xz1 is still the best there is in the market
Anonymous, 19 Dec 2017The only cons I see on Sony is not the product but lack of advertisement for their product. Gr... moreThat's your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. My own opinion is more that the main (perhaps even now the only) 'con' in the Xperia line has been and remains the camera implementation.
I have used a multitude of devices from different OEMs, and both the Xperia camera ui and the results offered are inferior to the best I have used, by my reckoning.
That opinion is also shared by many professional tech reviewers who rarely (if ever) list Xperia devices as the recommendation for smartphone camera solutions.
Until Sony go back to the drawing board regarding their smartphone camera philosophy, I'll remain unimpressed.
Anonymous, 19 Dec 2017You are one of the neutral (unbiased) sony fanboys I've ever met in gsma.
You said bad if it ... moreCheers and thank you, though I'm sure that's the first time I've ever been called a sony fanboy :)
I only ever try to call it as I see it, praise what's good and call out what's bad. Apparently though there are some that feel this board should operate on the premise of 'always say only good things about Sony'.
Pretty sure if that were to be the case then GSMarena would have called it the compliments section , not the opinions section.
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017Oh I completely agree with you. Though in order to not risk being dismissively labelled a bash... moreThe only cons I see on Sony is not the product but lack of advertisement for their product. Great phone like xz1 should be known by everyone and their should be a variety of case that should be available to conserve the beauty of this phone.
Once again, Sony embracing the competitors, the Google pixel 2 xl "the flagship smartphone of the Google company itself" being humiliated by Sony in software optimization battle.
Sony products are very high quality, such an honor to have this phone.
Anonymous, 19 Dec 2017Every brand has its pros and cons and sometime its just the name of the brand that makes it ex... moreOh I completely agree with you. Though in order to not risk being dismissively labelled a basher or hater, you might have said instead:
"Every brand has pros and cons, except Sony they have only pros....and for other brands it's mostly (almost exclusively) cons"
But you've put it out there, so your gonna have to take your chances :-)
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017Thank you. I actually am very fond of Sony as a brand, I grew up in a world where there we... moreEvery brand has its pros and cons and sometime its just the name of the brand that makes it expensive.
AnonD-27765, 18 Dec 2017The XZ1 only has a newer processor but the 20-month old S7 is still better than this phone.Ok can, everyone knows u are a SAMSUNG fanboy, and I know u like SAMSUNG a lot, but please don't be such an immature human being
Lex79, 19 Dec 2017Thank you.
I actually am very fond of Sony as a brand, I grew up in a world where there we... moreYou are one of the neutral (unbiased) sony fanboys I've ever met in gsma.
You said bad if it is bad, and you said good if it is good.
Unlike most other sony fanboys who always try to hide all sony's weaknesses.
We (Ex and Non sony users) need you. Please keep writing your comments in sony's articles, because we don't want to be fooled by most other fanboys.
king xperia, 19 Dec 2017 Lex79, should i say lex luthor, is a well known certified sony hater. Nothing objective abou... moreYou should look at your own name first, seriously King Experia ?? And lex79 only writes true honest opinions, unlike many here. If you don't like his comments, then ron't read them, King Experia.
Anonymous, 19 Dec 2017Base from what I read on your comment your not a hater.Thank you.
I actually am very fond of Sony as a brand, I grew up in a world where there were the undisputed No.1 tech company.
I'm just not sold on some aspects of the Xperia line. I've given Sony plenty of praise where I believe it's due, i.e.
1. The screen: High end Xperia's have the best LCD based screens I have seen on smartphones, so good that I don't feel they need to look into oled based tech anytime soon.
2. Software support: Sony are currently the best in the android space out side of Google themselves, simple as.
3. Battery tech: Sony make more effort here than the competition.
Just to name a few.
The only real area I critique now really is the camera, sorry but in my own user experience there are not getting the job done here, and haven't kept pace with the best of the competition for some time. They are no.1 when it come to mobile imaging hardware, but not in the implementation of that hardware.
If that is enough to make me a hater by the standards of some on here....so be it. But such a demonstrably low bar of reasoning will also apply to those making that accusation, that they cannot see that baffles me.
Like I said though, I don't believe it's the supposed 'hating' itself that is a problem for such people (they are too busy applying as much themselves) it's just the direction of it.
[deleted post]Base from what I read on your comment your not a hater.
Tann Hauser, 18 Dec 2017Thats ok. You re excused. Enjoy your Pixel. And continue counting my posts...you seem to en... more Lex79, should i say lex luthor, is a well known certified sony hater. Nothing objective about his comments whatsoever just like many here. Best he leaves this place instead of trying to hide under his "objective" blanket. And to the rest of sony haters here, just leave cos no true sony fan is buying what your selling. Just... leave. Go make your selves useful at Samsung corner or something, don't know.
Lex79, 18 Dec 2017Good points, a well balanced opinion. Refreshing to see on here. The thing to bear in mind ... moreWell said Lex79 and 100% true.... If only these fanboys would accept the good and bad points, then this forum would be so much more enjoyable. Blindly defending Sony flaws is the sole reason for this arguing.
[deleted post]Did XZ1's camera has big improvements over XZs? And is it can defeat the S7? Behave yourself and speak politely.