dragonov, 04 Dec 2017I am a mobile phone fan, not a Sony fanboy like you, and definitely not a Samsung, because I n... moreHey samsung fan, where did youtube gets those videos. If they are not using the real thing.
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2017You should be called truegalaxyfanNope. I have xperia Z, X, XZ, XZs, XZ premium. So, I am obviously a sony fan.
Anonymous, 05 Dec 2017Still there is possibility to be biased. Ever tried xz1 before?Sure there is, just takes a little common sense to avoid it though.
No, other than some brief hands on at a local store. Can't imagine it's a million miles removed from the XZ though, so I'd wager O have a pretty decent idea of what to expect regarding it's capabilities.
Anonymous, 05 Dec 2017There is no such thing as mobile phone fan, only people with favorite phones and biased statem... moreActually there is. I have used numerous devices from a range of brands, and never once have I considered myself a fan of the brand itself. If I happen to like a device from LG, that isn't going go turn me into an LG fan.
It is possible to stay impartial to brands, and just enjoy (or not) specific products each produces. Unfortunately to many fall to easily under the trance of 'brand loyalty' and become the nuisance that is Fanboys.
dragonov, 04 Dec 2017I am a mobile phone fan, not a Sony fanboy like you, and definitely not a Samsung, because I n... moreThere is no such thing as mobile phone fan, only people with favorite phones and biased statement base on what they think or what they paid for.
Tann Hauser, 01 Dec 2017Ermmm, couple of corrections...
Steadyshot is available at 1080p at 60fps...at least on my ... moreIf stabilisation on 1080 60 fps works, then it is hell of a bad one.
and no, with the settings you mentioned for night photography, you would still lag behind a Samsung phone in auto.
my friend has a Huawei p9 and its photos are unbelievable! shame that a device from a company half as powerful as Sony which produces cameras like the A7s blows away my xz.
this phone is really lackluster.
AnonD-481725, 01 Dec 2017Funny fact none of the videos you mentioned proves your point, at least bother yourself a litt... moreI am a mobile phone fan, not a Sony fanboy like you, and definitely not a Samsung, because I never bought any of their products in my life.
No, there are many points in the videos which prove me right. Just watch them, I doubt you will understand anything from them anyway, though.
I can make very logic argument over the XZ because I OWN it. It is what they call a mediocre flagship. It is bad by all means in comparison to competition.
The Premium had positive reviews but technically it is still behind Samsung s8/s8+ except in performance and the front camera, which is excellent on the XZ series.
Apart from that, the XZ is seriously sub-par compared to s7, htc 10 and iphone 7.
AnonD-641578, 03 Dec 2017This one dont have camera?Absolutely it has a heck of a camera, go to YouTube and search xperia xz1 camera comparison.. This smartphone camera is destroying every smartphone on YouTube except the new Google pixel smartphones.
Anonymous, 04 Dec 2017I cant see your point, why does its ui not good in terms of manual mode on camera, I used xper... moreYeah, look Sony are making improvements to be sure, the camera ui (and the camera experience as a whole) is miles better than what used to be.
I give Sony slot of credit for that, but it's the fanboy 'Sony is and has always been the best at everything' line I take exception with.
Sony are market leaders when it comes to mobile imaging hardware, no question. They are not leading the in the implementation of that hardware though. Competing and getting better yes, but leading, no.
That this conversation has moved to the 'you can get better results if you tweak the manual controls....' line of reasoning is proof enough that out of the box the Sony Xperia camera experience still is somewhat lacking.
You can get better results out of the Essential or Razor phones by side loading the Google camera, anyone here think that absolves those respective companies of putting out lackluster camera experiences in the firsts place though?
Lex79, 03 Dec 2017Spot on, whilst consumers will always welcome the choice of manual camera controls, the presen... moreI cant see your point, why does its ui not good in terms of manual mode on camera, I used xperia c4 before, its camera is good. Why does people acting they have this phone when they didn't. I heard they IMPROVE the ui, not make it worst.
Lex79, 03 Dec 2017Spot on, whilst consumers will always welcome the choice of manual camera controls, the presen... moreGood Honest comment from a Real Sony owner/user. Of course no phone is perfect and even Sony with its shocking history is slowly improving. Sony please fix your aged, troubled camera software.
AnonD-641578, 03 Dec 2017This one dont have camera?It does have but a bad one.
Anonymous, 02 Dec 2017I would say that most users would prefer manual and auto camera modes option. At least its th... moreSpot on, whilst consumers will always welcome the choice of manual camera controls, the presence of such will be a make or break for only a niche few.
Hauser is just championing manual controls (something Sony are not really leading the way in as far as the Xperia camera ui is concerned) as he's realised that it's pointless to try to argue the benefits of the Superior auto results vs the best of the competition.
Sony do offer manual controls....to a degree, at that's great, but this is a recent development (what they were passing off as 'manual' up until recently was really pretty poor). Also their camera ui is still clunky and not as intuitive as it could be.
If a consumer were finding that they absolutely needing manual controls in their smartphone cameras, well then there are better options out there...
AnonD-392500, 03 Dec 2017I never use manual mode in my entire life. I only want a good point and shoot camera.Same here. I never used manual mode bcuz I don't know how to used it. Sony needs to open their eyes now. Their only weakness is on the camera department.
no name, 03 Dec 2017CameraI dont think so, oversatuarated is better than natural color? Impossible.
AnonD-392500, 03 Dec 2017I never use manual mode in my entire life. I only want a good point and shoot camera.Exactly. Same here, I have never used manual camera mode in my life and always get great photos, including low light shots. Except, when I owned a Sony Z5 as its photography in low light was terrible. I refused to waste my time with manual mode when all other major brands performed well in low light photography. I had a Samsung S5 back then, and it replaced the crappy Z5.