Anonymouse, 12 Dec 2017I think its also from hardware problem like OIS and bigger aperture. I have an Xperia XZs and ... moreThey just replace ois by eis and the f/2 could only be a minor downside. Besides from that they said its the best module they made.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 12 Dec 2017It is the software side. The reason why people don't like Sony smartphone cameras is how it ha... moreBut I guess if it is the software then they can correct it by software update right. Sony is amazing when it comes to camera module, they are the best since most other company gets their module on sony. I wish they could upgrade the software side of all their camera on smartphone.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 12 Dec 2017It is the software side. The reason why people don't like Sony smartphone cameras is how it ha... moreI think its also from hardware problem like OIS and bigger aperture. I have an Xperia XZs and its very struggling on high dynamic range conditions, while in low-light sometimes good but sometimes bad, it lacks on consistency.
Anonymous, 11 Dec 2017Nope, its not in bottom list, it said that it os between one plus 5 and lg v30 when it come to... moreIt is the software side. The reason why people don't like Sony smartphone cameras is how it handles noise. Because they have a list of smartphones with a lot of megapixels, and from what I know the reason why it have more noise compared to others is because the more megapixels the smartphone have, the more noise it is going to produce. Since there are more pixels, the pixels come together and create more noise, compared to others using 12MP. People are disappointed because Sony is doing really great in their camera department, with mirrorless cameras, lossless zoom and many more. Sony do have to do a lot of work to improve the camera software by clearing away the noise, if they want to compete with others with a high MP count
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017Yes. U may hear people saying it is mediocre, yes it is kind of mediocre, but not in the worst... moreNope, its not in bottom list, it said that it os between one plus 5 and lg v30 when it come to night photoghraphy. Not bad. And base on sony side they said that they.put their best camera module on the phone, so if there is a weakness on camera it is on the software side I guess
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017Yes. U may hear people saying it is mediocre, yes it is kind of mediocre, but not in the worst... moreBut it also said that it is more natural than other high end when it comes to photos even at lowlight. Well if that is so, I guess it is great since what we want is natural color when it comes to photos even at lowlight.
Anonymous, 11 Dec 2017Thanks bro, I just want to know, there are some website stating that xz1 lowlight performance ... moreYes. U may hear people saying it is mediocre, yes it is kind of mediocre, but not in the worst case scenario. It is still one of the best high-end flagship camera around, the "mediocre" they mean is because it is ranked at the very bottom of the list when someone asks about the best high-end flagship camera
Lex79, 11 Dec 2017Hold on, you have all those devices, including the XZP and XZ1 yet you are using the XZ as you... moreYep I do have all those smartphones, but I chose to use XPERIA XZ. I have 2 of them, one for collection another as my daily driver, but the reason I chose the XPERIA XZ is because that time this is the best Sony got. They past on the Z lineup to this which is in between the Z and X series, a new X design with the familiar Z series blocky shape. That time I was fascinated by it and hence I bought it. And even though I bought the new ones which I also want to be my daily driver, u just can't let this current one am I right? And u might be wondering if I can't let the rest go when I got a new smartphone and the answer is no, because I used the XPERIA SP for 4 years, with problems like overheating because of the type of chipset it is using, and I have been looking a Sony smartphone that have a perfect taste of both series, just like the XPERIA XZ. That amount of care given to this smartphone for these few months, about a year already, u of course wouldn't want to let go of it :)
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017Nope, they haven't fixed the Manual Mode for older smartphones yet, not an issue for me, since... moreHold on, you have all those devices, including the XZP and XZ1 yet you are using the XZ as your daily driver?????
That isnt a dig my part by the way, Im just genuinely curious as to why? I get through a lot of devices myself, but pretty much only ever have one at a time.
Totally agree with you points regarding the back porting of camera software though. Sony are knocking it out of the park as far as software support Is concerned generally, but would the icing on the cake.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017And I am the user... I do own them and that's why I am saying it out some problems that hope t... moreThanks bro, I just want to know, there are some website stating that xz1 lowlight performance is beyond average, is it better than compare to average smartphone?
Lex79, 11 Dec 2017Ah, so they have fixed that have they? It was one of the annoying things I noticed on the XZ. ... moreNope, they haven't fixed the Manual Mode for older smartphones yet, not an issue for me, since I buy their high-end flagships every year since 2013, so I am getting a much newer camera software every year. But the problem lies when other users use it. Some don't buy their smartphone every single year like me would like to have the newer camera software on their older ones too. Because until now I still think that my whole Z series (I have the XPERIA Z1, XPERIA Z2, XPERIA Z3, XPERIA Z3+, XPERIA Z5 and XPERIA Z5 PREMIUM from the Z series, still running perfectly till now) are still capable of shooting some decent photos, and can definitely take much better photos if the current Manual Mode found in my XPERIA XZ1 is implemented into them. For example the XPERIA XA1, with that same 23MP camera, but with a newer camera software, takes much better photos thanks to the better post processing algorithms compared to my XPERIA X, XPERIA X PERFORMANCE & my XPERIA XZ. My suggestion is to bring the new camera software to the older high-end flagships they made in the past, maybe some of the problems might be solved for the older ones. I haven't received ANDROID OREO yet for my older X smartphones, and I didn't hear them saying about anything new to the camera software, so I am still not sure if they are going to bring the new software especially to my XPERIA XZ, because that is my daily driver and most of the time I would be outside and I would be using that to take photos instead of using my newer XPERIA XZs XPERIA XZ PREMIUM and XPERIA XZ1, besides I have been counting on Manual Mode at night instead of Superior Auto
Anonymous, 11 Dec 2017A fan will not be a fan if he see only pure negativity on the product. I guess its not sony fa... moreAnd I am the user... I do own them and that's why I am saying it out some problems that hope they can do about it...
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017Yes it is true that Sony smartphones are not in the top when it comes to camera performance, b... moreAh, so they have fixed that have they? It was one of the annoying things I noticed on the XZ. 'Manual' mode was actually ISO/Shutter priority mode, they could not be independently set.
Like I said previous 'Manual' controls on Xperia devices were quite poor, in addition to the above issue, colour temperature could only be set according to 5 presets, strangely though a granular control could be activated in auto mode, for......well reasons known only to Sony.
So yes, Sony continues to make improvements (they finally have added a exposure compensation control, which is nice of them), but the app still isn't laid out as intuitively as some of the competition and I don't see many (if any) tech reviews/journals pushing current or past Xperia devices as their recommended camera solutions.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 11 Dec 2017Yes it is true that Sony smartphones are not in the top when it comes to camera performance, b... moreA fan will not be a fan if he see only pure negativity on the product. I guess its not sony fans who could appreciate sony camera on smartphone. I think it takes skills and knowledge in order to get the best quality sony smartphone has to offer. Dont give comment as a fan, give comment as.experienced user of xperia phone.
Lex79, 10 Dec 2017King Xperia????......and we're not in anyway way expecting any bias on your part are we. An... moreYes it is true that Sony smartphones are not in the top when it comes to camera performance, but it is still one of the best that tech reviewers will recommend. And I feel u bro, for the XPERIA XZ and older ones which I am still using the Manual Mode cannot tune the ISO and shutter speed together, and the newer one like my XPERIA XZs, XPERIA XZ PREMIUM & XPERIA XZ1, can tune both at the same time. But still it is a shame that Sony didn't bring the newer camera software to the older ones, because I am pretty sure my XPERIA Z5 can do all those tuning too with its 23MP camera. Yep I am a Sony fanboy, but I do not protect Sony, I am telling my thoughts as a user
king xperia, 09 Dec 2017Stop arguing! Xperia destroys the galaxy and other phones while on tripod( lack of ois) and i... moreKing Xperia????......and we're not in anyway way expecting any bias on your part are we.
Anyhow as I pointed out previously, but seems i now have to reiterate, I was mentioning how the conversation has changed from Xperia cameras simply being the best outright, to now being the best if you fiddle around with the manual settings and such.
End results are too nuanced to be decided here, not many reviewers and tech enthusiasts will agree that Xperias are in the top bracket of camera performance, but at least there appears a consensus that improvements continue to be made.
But if people are going to suggest that manual controls are a must then (as I said previously) there are better options. Sony's camera ui is far from the most intuitive on the market.
Can't speak to how things have changed in recent software updates, but the manual mode on the XZ when I was using it was an absolute joke.
king xperia, 09 Dec 2017Stop arguing! Xperia destroys the galaxy and other phones while on tripod( lack of ois) and i... moreOne thing I noticed after Oreo update...
in automode at lowlight my camera now recognizes the stability provided, so even automode now shoots at 1s shutter and 200 ISO it you hold it steady...
For ocassional handheld use it shoots at 1/16 s and about 1000/1250 ISO, or 1/8 at some 600/800 ISO....
At dusk it now acts as in daylight, shooting at some 1/100 s shutter, and really catches the scenario as it is, not overblowing brights....
Indeed, lowlight shots come out superb even in automode with this new autosettings...
No need for me to go manual on most lowlight ocassions.
Now it just reacts much better in auto, reognizing the shake and adapting shutter much faster.
Very satisfied with new Oreo camera improvements. :-)
Lex79, 04 Dec 2017Yeah, look Sony are making improvements to be sure, the camera ui (and the camera experience a... moreStop arguing! Xperia destroys the galaxy and other phones while on tripod( lack of ois) and in manual mode. fact!
AnonD-392500, 08 Dec 2017Tell me 1 solid fact based on a trial that qnovo works as advertised. You must read ALL of these side and don't take a sentence of a part to begin your bias comments...
Btw, how do you proven the Samsung battery quality with real results.