RFx, 17 Oct 2017Sould I go with xz1 or iPhone 8 and why?XZ1. Here are a few reasons.
1) Depending where you are in the world, the Sony is way cheaper.
2) Android OS (way more flexible and OpenSource)
3) Very customisable. Make the phone look like you want it to.
4) Camera is good (on par with iPhone, at least)
5) Real world performance is on par with iPhone
6) All the same connectivity, plus 3,5mm jack
7) Accessories and everything else is way cheaper. (And easier to come by, or borrow when needed)
8).... and the list goes on...
Check out comparisons on YouTube, but they often fail to capture the little things that make the big differences.
F1rstman, 15 Oct 2017I've compared the cameras of my iPhone 8, my brother's 6s Plus and the XZ1 which I bought to t... moreWhy nobody told you the second image comparison (the outdoor zoom in) taken by iPhone 6s plus and iPhone 8 have distortion problems? Could you please find it out yourself.
F1rstman, 17 Oct 2017You're welcome. And yes I realize this is a Sony forum. I find it fascinating how some fanboys... moreAgain, thx for your honesty here. The general public are quite aware of flagship phones these days and that why iphone and Samsung have the majority market share. It seems that Sony always comes last in its class with photography. The problem is in Sonys camera software optimation. This has been a flaw for years now and we all hope that Sony can resolve these isssues. Anyway below is part of gsmarenas review.
"When the sun goes down, things get a little bit too blurry for our taste. On the one hand, there is the lack of OIS. But even if you make it a habit to go out with a tripod, the XZ1 still loses a lot of detail in the dark due to heavy-handed noise reduction, which ironically isn't doing all that good of a job of masking the noise itself. It's not a terrible performance by any means, but it's just lagging behind the flagship competition."
In 2018, Sony is finally making the needed changes. Such as using OIS, changing to OLED screens, going to bezeless screens, dual rear cameras. There will also be edge screens if thats your choice. And hopefully dropping the aged, ugly, brick like style of phones.
F1rstman, 17 Oct 2017You're welcome. And yes I realize this is a Sony forum. I find it fascinating how some fanboys... moreAll things have it pro and con,same as well for a phone ,even though its a flagship its still have down side not all perfect,even s8 have a down side,but consumer didnt need to picky to much,because all flagship this day all good enough,just choose want has being desire,the only things that is my advice to is ,you should be greatful next,because their alot of other people want xz1 but they cant due to under circumstance,but you,you can had xz1 but you return it back just because a small matter,just a small advice,cheers..
F1rstman, 17 Oct 2017You're welcome. And yes I realize this is a Sony forum. I find it fascinating how some fanboys... moreDude, i am not sure why you are so desperate to praise the IPhone 8 camera knowing that i have watched tenth of video comparisons on YouTube, read thousands of comments, rarely i see iPhones won against other smartphones, Google pixel 2, Sony Xperia xz1, premium.. Samsung Galaxy s8, LG V30, are proven to be better than iPhone 8, so what makes you do such effort unless you are die hard Apple fan.
Anonymous, 17 Oct 2017Actually, you are correct. The iphone8 has a superior camera to Sony. Its been proven here at... moreYou're welcome. And yes I realize this is a Sony forum. I find it fascinating how some fanboys can come up with things to defend their phone brand's shortcomings and flaws. While I have the iPhone I can admit that the screen of the XZ1 and S8 are better than on my iPhone. In some situations my sister's S8 makes better photos than iPhone 8 and I admit that and give her a compliment about her great camera. I'm not a fanboy myself and never will be. To each their own of course.
I wish Sony went back to Xperia Z2 design. The phone looked classy than its predecessor and successor.
F1rstman, 16 Oct 2017Oooo okay Tann, now I understand. I made a mistake. Yeah, you're right actually the XZ1 has a ... moreActually, you are correct. The iphone8 has a superior camera to Sony. Its been proven here at gsmarena. and you are an genuine Sony owner. So, thanks for your honest review. Unfortunately, this is a Sony forum thats full of Sony Fanboys that just lie and promote Sony phones. For this reason, only listen to the real experts such as gsmarena here.
Tann Hauser, 16 Oct 2017Wait a minute. Oh, now I see the mistake. You took screenshots... You took 1080 x1920 pixel ... moreOooo okay Tann, now I understand. I made a mistake. Yeah, you're right actually the XZ1 has a better camera than the iPhone 8. Lol just kidding. Seriously, even with the original photos without cropping or zooming, the iPhone is better. Maybe it's just a matter of opinion but I like the 8's photos more than the XZ1 results :)
Slash89, 16 Oct 2017I played with it for quite some time today at a store and it looked very impressive, bulid qua... moreHad my XZ1 for 4 days now and I love it! Great phone. So much better than predecessors in so many ways that make a big difference at the end of the day. Would be nice if bezels were just 2 or 3mm smaller (I like bezels), but excellent phone with very nice UI.
F1rstman, 16 Oct 2017I took the pictures in auto-mode and after that I zoomed it in for about 70% and took a screen... moreWait a minute.
Oh, now I see the mistake. You took screenshots...
You took 1080 x1920 pixel (translated to about 4mpx) shots of a 17 mpx full res shot...
I do crops of real full res shots for my compares.
I am affraid you made quite a mistake in your compare.
And quite a misleading one.
I played with it for quite some time today at a store and it looked very impressive, bulid quality is amazing much better than the XZ/XZs. Took lots of pics with it and was impressed with its pic quality which had lot of details with punchy colors.
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2017Is it true that EIS is linked to image degradation compared OIS, has anyone taken photos with ... moreWhat degradation?
Here is a crop example of arenas own compare...
XZ1 took the shot with 800 ISO and 1/20 shutter(fastest), iphone8 with 100 ISO and 1/4 shutter, S8 with 200 ISO and 1/11 shitter.
Seems to me iphone8 did the worst, XZ1 and S8 are on par....Xperia lost some detail on wall and leafs, S8 lost detail on window railing and doors....
And again, I dont see how anyone can claim XZ1 is not on par with other competition in lowlight?!
F1rstman, 16 Oct 2017I took the pictures in auto-mode and after that I zoomed it in for about 70% and took a screen... moreI did the same.
But my compares look equally detailed.
Are you sure you used full res photos?Looking at the quality, seems to me you used thumbnails, not jpeg.
Will do with daylight shots too. Bare with me...
Tann Hauser, 16 Oct 2017Dont know where from and what you did with these shots, but they all look awful and compressed... moreI took the pictures in auto-mode and after that I zoomed it in for about 70% and took a screenshot of it. Then posted it on Imgur. It was meant to show how Sony's pictures lack in detail compared to the older iPhone 6s and the iPhone 8 in actually all lighting situations.