AnonD-441601, 27 Sep 2017Why the battery is so small. OMG 600 eur phone and battery like from 2010 or so. WTF. This i... morecpt..... cpt.... wake up pleasee hahaha...yes i agree saving money is good but...cheap thing no good ,,, good thing no cheap.... yes i agree china brand is cheaper but you get more with iphone....first it is the brand...apple is a big2 brand like CK , levis , nike n more... second you get more software update support 5~ 7 years.... can you get it with china brand...? even redmi note 4 dont have update stuck at marshmallow... 3.own exclusive software n exclusive appsss...tons of appsss.... 4. u cant compare spec with android n ios ...even dual core iphone open apps faster n smoother than snapdragon 810...why because it has its own software working seamlessly between software n hardware...5... battery is better with moderate processor n ram... but smoother thats again because of own software 2gb ios can beat 6gb android....6.... iphone is more relaibility than most china phone...7...ipphone x even take the most like feature like amoled infinity screen face id and make it better....Thats y so many people buy eventhough expansive... people r no sheep ...while some china brand so cheap but no much people buy.... wake up please lolll
Sony is the best, but if you want a phone without bezels please go to Xperia ZL
AnonD-441601, 28 Sep 2017Oh man thats a long story to read. I got like tired and bored. Oh sorry i appreciate your work... morehahaha yea yea. what a way for having conversation.you wrote long lines but as soon as being replied with long lines.ooopps too busy. yea you too.have a nice day.keep preaching your favorite phone.you have done a noble work. might even get employed by them someday
Ri, 28 Sep 2017How many gb does s8 and iphone 8 have??S8 4gb ram S8 plus 6 GB ram Iphone 8 2gb Ram Iphone 8 plus 3 GB ram.
And yet still a lot of phones for much less money have more ram and better specs.
Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017do you know this thing called google? if you want to tell history, make it clear, preferably a... moreOh man thats a long story to read. I got like tired and bored. Oh sorry i appreciate your work but i am busy to answer. I agree with some terms and with some no.
But against t will be opinion vs iopinion. I did not eat all the cleverness of the world and i dont try to persuade you with my (like you should thing brainwash) All i told before its a customer experience and respond from time i left school and start working until now.
By the way a nice research with Henry Ford i knew you will fid out :-)
Truth was said HE WAS FIRST to make his car affordable for a public.
Have a nice day pal.
AnonD-481725, 28 Sep 2017Again, i am not sure which part of my topic triggered you and the Anonymous down there so you ... moreMan i am targeting more than that Samsung as well and some other brands but thats not important. Important is if a phone with snapdragon 835 and adreno 540 can be sold for 400 or less eur brand new why to pay 700 or 900 extra buck for having XZ premium Note 8 etc.
Apple X is same problem. 1300 european price and you have to pay a lot more for a wireless charger which is not included like WTF.
I am not the judge. I shouldnt care why people would like Note 8 for 1000 eur or Apple X for 1300 or XZ Premium for 700 if the response of for example Xiaomi Mi6 which cost 400 is almost as same as 1000 eur phone. I mean delay difference is so low that people paying more expensive phones just wasting your money. I know what you said before there is more than just a phone. But i must opposite of what you said ( By the way, you went again with counting lines only, why didn't you give an example between Xiaomi and Apple, Xiaomi with the specifications you mentioned and Iphones with only 2GB of ram, 720p display, 2000mah...and every year Apple scores the highest sale records way beyond your favorite brand, why you claimed that people are not cleaver as we so they go with the higher specifications and lower price while real life prove the opposite, and i know you will go again with a big topic with zero points good luck. ) 90% of global population will rather save money and buy a premium device for 400 than buy a phone for 800 or 1300.
Sales saying this sales saying that. Apple never sold a cheap phone so. No matter which one phone people buy iits super expensive because of apple.
I know you like me but you are shy to tell the truth :-)
AnonD-441601, 28 Sep 2017Maybe you are right. ( In some cases :-D ) Some things arent same. Maybe we need so many brand... moredo you know this thing called google? if you want to tell history, make it clear, preferably a factual one. henry ford didn't make the first car,he was not even the first one who selling it. he was the one who made it affordable. before henry ford,car cost was the same just like house.only the rich could afford them.there was no options, it's just a car.it was a car called model T and when he introduced the assembly line. he even made the model T more affordable, and then a new industry was born. and those assembly line being applied to other industries. you know things called innovation right? henry ford innovation was the assembly line and that's not even pure his idea,he took it from meat industry.anyway we were talking about phone.so please stick to the point
yea sure.you know what you talking about because you're the only one here who have experience with sales,phone industry. look, there are few reason why people prefer other brand to xiaomi, for example do you know how many dealers,distributor they have? do they cover all the region? no. so some people who want the headphone have to import it. some look for some shop who have xiaomi on their line up. most of the time the price has been mark up real bad. its pretty the much the same with chinese phones, xiaomi,one plus,meizu, alcatel, i won't mention oppo because oppo already price quite high in the first place.but those phones has been mark up in certain market,region. do you know in some places,xiaomi mi6,oneplus5 when first released has been priced exactly just like samsung s7edge? there is reason why chinese phones are quite favorite in the market.the price.it's cheap.but when in certain region the price turned out to be the same just like others flagship.what's the benefit from it? again just because you experience it then you are an expert,you know it all. just like you have been said in phone manufacture cost, every region have different cost manufacture it. you also need to know those region also have different pricing on sales especially when there is no official dealer or distributor.in case you're not notice there are many countries in this world, so your market not necessarily the same like everyone else market. same stuff like custom, tax import. each countries have different policies.did you put that in your calculation?
AnonD-441601, 28 Sep 2017Oh man 20 lines and zero points? maybe i just like to write and maybe you are blind to see the... moreAgain, i am not sure which part of my topic triggered you and the Anonymous down there so you went up with these statements "You just can't understand English correctly"... "maybe i just like to write and maybe you are blind to see the point"...
Well i am perfectly not blind and i can totally understand the REAL english. By the way, you went again with counting lines only, why didn't you give an example between Xiaomi and Apple, Xiaomi with the specifications you mentioned and Iphones with only 2GB of ram, 720p display, 2000mah...and every year Apple scores the highest sale records way beyond your favorite brand, why you claimed that people are not cleaver as we so they go with the higher specifications and lower price while real life prove the opposite, and i know you will go again with a big topic with zero points good luck.
By the way, i did notice that you are targeting both Apple and Sony threads from almost two weeks with negative posts.
I like sony very much since sony Ericsson eara, but there's one thing i dont like, they don't wanna make phones with slim bezel and all these boders makes their phones big and heavy
Only two phones were better Xperia zl and z3 compact
AnonD-481725, 27 Sep 2017I reread my comment down there, and i am not sure what part of my comment triggered you, sorry... moreOh man 20 lines and zero points? maybe i just like to write and maybe you are blind to see the point. I know you said i put zero points in 20 lines where you add 5 points in 8 lines. But your 5 poits have zero value for me because customer experience works best. And i know what i am talking about for a very simple reason. Working with peope for over a 15 years selling electronic products mobile phones as well. So i should know somethign about customer care and customer respond. You are just a drop in ocean. I know a lot of people love sony. But i guaranee you if 7 billion people have to select between for example xiaomi or sony more than 70% will pick xiaomi for a very simple reason. Price is all that matters. Price and specs. More than 70% of people isnt clever as we and the see only numbers. So if 8 core phone with 6GB ram and 3500 mAh battery cost 400 and Quadcore phone with 4gb ram and 2700 battery cost 700 what do you think they pick? As i said not many people are deep into the tech specs mostly they will decide from what they see next to the price from the basic information. For the rest they doesnt care.
Anonymous, 27 Sep 2017i know.i'm living in third world country, you don't need to teach me how market and business w... moreMaybe you are right. ( In some cases :-D ) Some things arent same. Maybe we need so many brands and maybe not. Motorola made first mobile phone and from 1978 all copy Motorola. Like in cars when Henry Ford made first car. I know there was a lot people before trying to do same or simmilar but he was officialy first. But it doesnt matter. If we people theoreticaly have just one brand for each of the products who knows how much they could cost.
About the software: Everywhere is Android or in Apple phones its IOS and some using windows. For those who dont have stock android they have some company UI like flyme etc. But the basic is same. I know and understand that every brand is different. But on other hands tell me why for example around the globe more people walking with xiaomi or meizu phones than Sony. Maybe they want something good for less. And maybe here working a politics where if i person is satisfied with something he tell his friends and family and they buy same. Like Nokia long time ago where 75% of population havent any other phone just nokia. Who cares i am not a judge. I know a zillion people could be satisfied with one brand and on other hand zillion people not. Look how ended Note 7 and still many people love samsung. I know the customer service is important but mosty you buy at your nearby shop and this shop doesnt care about the customer service of brand company you have to deal with this shop customer service usualy. As i said before there is lot of things which makes your phone more and more expensive but apart from all the expenses company profit is the most. I know what i am talking about. My cousin works for samsung so i know how much is manufacturers price of Samsug products. And to be honest difference is ridiculously high. Sony is probbably same.
For example Sony Vaio which was their notebooks ended. They no longer making notebooks for a said reason. Any other brand basic notebook was like 200-300 eur. Same specs but Sony brand and price was 1000. People are greeedy and do everything in their possibilities to have even more. Poor starving and beggin on streets and rich have never enough. Some times they give crumbles to poor so they looks jealous in other eyes but fact is money and human greed rule the world.
dellevo, 25 Sep 2017Yes, test please on xz and answer me. Thanks.I examined my XZ over the last 2 days and there's no overheating issues. Playing Asphalt 8 for straight 30min it just little bit warm. Browsing also doesn't make any overheat. Just recorded 4K video in 10min and it's getting hot as hell. Well my XZP can recorded until it out of battery.
AnonD-481725, 27 Sep 2017I reread my comment down there, and i am not sure what part of my comment triggered you, sorry... moreActually he made plenty of good and interesting points in his 20 lines. You just can't understand English correctly.
AnonD-441601, 27 Sep 2017Sony is more expensive. Man everything is made in china even Apple is made in china probbabl... moreI reread my comment down there, and i am not sure what part of my comment triggered you, sorry anyway, but you actually made a real example for what i was actually trying to tell you, take for example my post down there, it is made of 8 lines, in these lines i made almost five points, take your post for example, it is made of 20 lines and you made zero points, do not count lines, same thing for smartphones do not count number, higher numbers not necessarily better, and cheaper prices not necessarily better for you.
AnonD-441601, 27 Sep 2017man as i said zilion times before everything is made or exported from china.
No matter how y... morei know.i'm living in third world country, you don't need to teach me how market and business works. my point was just because the phone itself have the same specification,same parts,build in probably the same factory,meaning same cost.logically it should perform pretty much the same. but in reality it's not like that isn't it? why? because there is this thing called software... if every companies using the same software,same customization, then we don't need all these brands because every phone should perform exactly the same.but again, in reality that's not what happened
if you want to focus on economy, do you know there is this thing called quality control? not everyone have same policy, even the supplier.because they work under contract,if it didn't met the requirement, then there is going to be penalty.not everyone have the same culture,same mentality. if we talking about cutting cost,cutting corners which companies do you think have more wiggle room? sure, you probably paying more because companies want more profit, maybe it cost more because of advertising cost,maybe it cost more because of the brand,the exclusivity, it cost more because of the certifications, all those certifications are not cheap. but also sometimes you pay more, because you want less wiggle room, some assurance, maybe better customer service, maybe better software. who knows
Anonymous, 27 Sep 2017yea dude. your opinions means nothing. do you have sony xz1 on your hand right now? you just c... moreman as i said zilion times before everything is made or exported from china.
No matter how you look at. China have biggest export from all 189 countries around the globe. For a said reason. Chinese workers are cheap and their politics i mean authorithies will leave this as it is. But thats china. Sony is the same case. If Iphone can assemble heir phones in china for a said reason US Workers are too expensive on sallary so Iphones would be costly as well then Sony is probbably doing same. Japanese salary is way bigger than most countries around the globe and for said reason Sony sell their phones for 700 eur even the manufacturers price per each piece is probbably less than 200 or 300 but if we count all expenses in especialy Advertising Sony speciality the phone cost are ridiculously high.
Anonymous, 27 Sep 2017I would wait for XZ2, expect 101hrs endurance rating with 3250 mAh battery life, 19MP+ 41MP du... moreI doubt they'll keep bezels, Sony will replace "OmniBalance" with bezel less "Mirai" design. It has been reported next Sony flagship will appear MWC 2018. You might aswell buy the Xperia XZ1 since it's the last Sony flagship phone to sport bezels.