DQ, 27 Mar 2015LOL, you are seriously taking SHEM's video as your proof that battery life is not truly improv... moreI respect your opinion too,still as u said facts are facts
so here it goes again
1."LOL, you are seriously taking SHEM's video as your proof that battery life is not truly improved???"...no i'm not taking SHEM's video seriously but still he is right to my opinion...
2."Please go and see professional reviews and actual test performed on both devices"...hah i don't need to bcs i already used two of them and i know what i'm saying
3."GSMArena have an Endurance rating of 101hr vs 65hr"...that is standby time not On Screen Time,which i checked myself by running battery test with my friend's z3c
and surprisingly z1c survived around 10 min more...
4."Again, most people will NOT root"... u can't be too sure,rooting is easy now a days
5."I don't get the "joke"... My phone charges pretty fast"...did i say z3 or z3c didn't charge fast,all i said is that quick charge 2.0 is available on other devices too and also it's an integreated feature from S800(check qualcomm website)
it may looks stupid discussion to u but fun for me
again as i said before the difference in specification not worth that much bucks
my friend is using z3c for more than 3 months now and we exchanged our phone for few weeks..
and yeah both devices are great no doubt..
end of discussion for me but u can go on
yoney, 26 Mar 2015@ DQ
1."300 mAh coupled with the new display, gives the Z3 Compact around 40% more batte... moreLOL, you are seriously taking SHEM's video as your proof that battery life is not truly improved??? His video is really a great comparisson EXCEPT for battery life...
Please go and see professional reviews and actual test performed on both devices... the Z3C is a lot better than the Z1C on battery life. Even here on GSMArena have an Endurance rating of 101hr vs 65hr.
SHEM only did a 30 minute test on a device that was probably brand new and not even calibrated by some battery cycles, he then extrapolated the results to ASSUME what would be the battery life...
You really got me thinking that you knew about your stuff, anyway I still stand behind my post. Both devices are really good, and each of us are entitled to our own opinions, but facts are FACTS.
yoney, 26 Mar 2015@ DQ
1."300 mAh coupled with the new display, gives the Z3 Compact around 40% more batte... moreI respect your opinion and if you read my first post I commented about both pros and cons vs the Z1c...
1. The battery is vastly improved that is a FACT.
2. The slightly less ppi will not be noticeable under normal conditions, unless you look at it extremely close and next to each other.
3. Again, most people will NOT root...
4. I don't get the "joke"... My phone charges pretty fast.
This is a really stupid discussion, I explained in my first post my opinion and if the person looking for one of these devices, finds its features useful, then just get it, if not get the older one... I even stated that I am going to get the Z1c for my wife... But for me the difference are worth it...
What is really sad is that you think you are right over my Opinion... And I've used both devices... At the end he/she can't go wrong with either... both devices are great IMO
self craking issues, it means you've buy the fake z3c
buy it on official sony store then you'll suffer no craked screen
khule, 26 Mar 2015My z3 compact back glass just cracked I don't even know what caused it it didn't fall or anyth... moreEeehhh!!!
Please your Not even a true SONY user based on your gibberish/poor story telling! haha
My z3 compact back glass just cracked I don't even know what caused it it didn't fall or anything. Would have been otherwise a great phone but the camera sux
DQ, 26 Mar 2015@yoney
The thing is that those 300 mAh coupled with the new display, gives the Z3 Compact a... more@ DQ
1."300 mAh coupled with the new display, gives the Z3 Compact around 40% more battery life": no actually less bcs of larger screen size(check this review bit.ly/19nC95H)
2."The screen size increase is a big plus": yes but ppi is less
3."most people will not even unlock the bootloader and risk degrading the camera": Wrong u don't need to unlock bootloader just root ur phone and use the given mod
4."Quick charge 2.0 is only available on the Z3 and Z3 compact": haha what a joke,look carefully around the web
u consider urself power user and u don't even know these..sad
again i'll say the same...price differences is more compared to the specifications
but again it's my personal opinion so don't be nasty
yoney, 25 Mar 20151.Just 300mAh more battery isn't a big improvement,sony should hav provide 3000mAh then it wou... more@yoney
The thing is that those 300 mAh coupled with the new display, gives the Z3 Compact around 40% more battery life than what the Z1 Compact had (and the Z1c wan't bad to begin with) that alone is worth it for me... I get over 6 hours of screen-on-time consistently, heavily used during the day.
The screen size increase is a big plus for me, coming from an Acro S which had 4.3" screen but capacitive buttons on the outside, so having a 4.3" with on-screen buttons felt like a downgrade, and the plastic on the Z3c is really solid, and most likely will absorb impacts better than metal (no scuffing)... also the curved design of the Z3 Compact will feel a lot better in the hand... I have a Ringke Fusion Case (which was also improved for the Z3c) and sometimes I take it off just to feel my device confortably while using it.
I was advicing about current official features, I really don't know if 4K or other features are available through XDA, cause most people will not even unlock the bootloader and risk degrading the camera... And btw I absolutely LOVE the camera features of the Z3 Comapact, not everyone will appreciate them as much though. The High Sensitivity ISO always impresses people with other phones (including iPhone 6 and Galaxy S5 users).
Quick charge 2.0 is only available on the Z3 and Z3 compact, look it up, not even the Z2 can take advantage of that feature.... however is not something a use. The standard 1.5 Amp charger that came with my phone is good enough.
Like I said, it really comes down to your personal preferences and your usage, I consider myself a power user and I take advantage of every little feature I discover on my device, so the price difference is totally worth it, but most people will be happy getting a device just to play Candy Crush and send Snapchats... not me.
Maya, 25 Mar 2015So Yoney, you do think that the upgrades that sony made for z3c is worth spending an extra EUR... moreIf i were u i'd not go for z3c now,bcs i think price difference is very compared to specification but maybe later when price drops
Now it's ur personal choice...
yoney, 25 Mar 2015ya choose z3c if u hav the budget if not then z1c is gud enough also remember that screen pp... moreSo Yoney, you do think that the upgrades that sony made for z3c is worth spending an extra EUR 125?....I do have the budget, but I just don't want to spend necessarily.
DQ, 25 Mar 2015@Maya, the decision to go with the Z3C instead of the Z1C depends entirely on how you use your... moreThanks DQ. I understood the difference (i.e. upgrades) that were made for Z3c. Just wasn't sure if these upgrades were worth EUR 125 :p. Based on your comments, it seems like they were (I personally was drawn to the higher ISO and additional camera features). Thanks again for helping me decide.
DQ, 25 Mar 2015@Maya, the decision to go with the Z3C instead of the Z1C depends entirely on how you use your... more1.Just 300mAh more battery isn't a big improvement,sony should hav provide 3000mAh then it would hav a big deal
2.Screen size is increased by using plastics bezel which looks bad compared to z1c metal bezel
3.Front speaker is an improvement over side on z1c
4.4k video recording is already available for z1c (check xda)
5.Quick charge 2.0 is an integreated feature from snapdragon 800 devices,but to get the benefit u hav to use high amp charger
verdict:z3c is not a huge improvement over z1c but maybe z4c
Maya, 25 Mar 2015I'm looking for a new phone. I found a Z1 compact at EUR 125 cheaper than Z3 compact. Can anyo... more@Maya, the decision to go with the Z3C instead of the Z1C depends entirely on how you use your devices... for me it really is worth it because I do wanted the upgrades...
Z3C over Z1C:
- Thinner, better overall design + bigger battery (2600 vs 2300 mAh)
- Slightly bigger screen 4.6" vs 4.3" with basically the same size
- Stereo front-facing speakers vs Mono at the bottom (the stereo effect is loss after around 20cm / 8in)
- More camera features (High Sensitivity ISO, Slow Motion 120fps@720p, 60fps@1080p, 4K video Rec, etc) I don't know if these features will ever make it to the Z1C
- Quick Charge 2.0.
Now, there are a couple of things that in MY opinion, the Z1C was better...
- Built materials: the back is plastic instead of glass, which is prone to scratches BUT NOT TO CRACKING. IMO more robust (I keep my Z3C with a case, and probably wouldn't use one for the Z1C)
- The frame is metal instead of plastic.
- The resolution of the display is the same on a smaller size which equals to slightly better ppi (342 vs 319)
I love my Z3 Compact, but I think I might get the Z1 Compact to my wife, since the difference in price does not justify her kind of usage.
Maya, 25 Mar 2015I'm looking for a new phone. I found a Z1 compact at EUR 125 cheaper than Z3 compact. Can anyo... moreya choose z3c if u hav the budget
if not then z1c is gud enough
also remember that screen ppi is low on z3c(319) compared to z1c(342)
selfcracking is BIG BIG BIG lie. I've been a user for like 3 months already, dropped the phone many times but hell yeah it's still on its perfect condition. You just have to add more care on it. I love you z3 compact. you're my everyday bestfriend.