I'm sorely disappointed in the upgrade between Z3C and Z5C. I purchased the Z3C in May understanding that the Z5C was coming soon, but I had to purchase a new phone due to various circumstances and couldn't wait any longer than the 2 months I'd already put the purchase off for. However I thought I'd just buy the Z5C when it did come out and sell off the still newish Z3C to recoup some of my costs. But after seeing the spec sheet, at this point I am underwhelmed and see no reason to upgrade. So while it is saving me money in not replacing a phone that's only 3 months old, I am also disappointed as I was looking forward to the Z5C and was prepared to spend the money - until I saw the specs.
The only upgrades really are:
1) CPU - Snapdragon 810 - however it has known heat issues and in most reviews of this chipset it has to throttle after a few minutes all processes down to the A53 (lower-power, slower cores) and turn off the faster A57 cores. I haven't seen a comparison of the throttled 810 vs the older 801 , but I suspect that while the 810 has its heat/throttling issues there will be no significant performance increase going to the 810 due to throttling. Certainly not big enough to make it an important factor in upgrading to it.
2) GPU - Adreno 430 (part of 810 SoC) - this is a significant upgrade, but may run into the same issues with heat/throttling as with the CPU cores.
3) Camera - more pixels, but how does it translate into image quality? The camera is a tertiary feature on a phone for me, it must have a 'decent' camera, but doesn't have to be a great camera/high pixel. I'm happy with the camera on my old galaxy S3 let alone the 20MP on the Z3C, so this isn't a big factor for me.
4) Front camera - significant upgrade, 2.1 -> 5MP (quality depending, more MP does not necessarily mean better). But I'm not big into selfies or other uses of a front camera, so it's not important to me, 2.1MP was more than adequate for MY usage patterns.
5) Faster LTE modem - again not a big benefit, I've never gotten above 30MBps on the current cat 4 (150/50) modem, so going to cat 6 (300/50) is meaningless when the telco's can't even give me full cat 4 speeds.
5) 32GB built-in storage. Again not a big deal as I already use a 64GB m-sd (40GB used) in the current phone for extra storage, so I'd still need a m-sd card in the Z5C. So again as long as it has the m-sd slot anything less than 64GB built-in is a non-event.
Pretty much everything else is the same (screen, memory) or a regression (bigger dimensions/weight, reduced battery life).
What WOULD have made it a significant enough upgrade to consider are, in addition to the above:
1) More built-in storage - 64GB (128 would be nice...)
2) MORE RAM! I was disappointed the Z3C had 2GB vs the Z3's 3GB. I'm still perplexed that a 2-year newer phone still only has 2GB RAM, I was expecting 3GB.
3) better (not bigger!) screen, 1080p.
4) USB-C !
5) Maybe a different SoC to the 810. I understand that one of the benefits of the 810 vs the other snapdragon
barameus, 03 Sep 2015And look at the battery standby time. Compare with z3c, this is a huge set back. Plus the 81... moreYea manufacturers have totally lost any common sense. Everyone knows SD810 is a huge fail, yet they keep insisting on using it. WTF?
Because it's hard to fit the kind-of-same hardware from Z5, into a smaller profile.
barameus, 03 Sep 2015And look at the battery standby time.
Compare with z3c, this is a huge set back.
Plus the 81... moreYes ur right. I just saw it compared to the z3c. SD 810 will still be a battery suckered. The official numbers seems to be a 30% lower battery life.
We will see the review but in this case I stay with my z3c.
Why no dual SIM version? Disappointing and a missed opportunity by Sony to increase their market share.
And look at the battery standby time.
Compare with z3c, this is a huge set back.
Plus the 810 this device will be a disappointed.
Seriously sony? Where is the great news and why are people excited about this weak upgrade? They are gonna lose money and marked on this weak upgrade, basically the same as Z3C.
So according to a German hands-on of Z5C, the frame is plastic. That's... surprising, considering the price range. One of the reasons I liked the Z1C was the metal frame, gave the device a premium feeling.
My Z3 Compact still good enough to be my friends (no lag etc like other phone with superior specs and sometime the price is cheap so some people buy it but in the end they just sucks), but with this z5 performance make me confuse to choose.
Should be name: Z5CompactPremium -lightning fast with HD and endurable beast(IPXX+battery time). Its wild west phone.
The z5c is an improvement in almost every department. No compromises no downgrade.Bigger battery, bigger internal, better material quality,better camera. it's the only choice for power user who don't like phablets. Z3c users know what I'm talking about.full HD display is not necessary. Design junkies please get lost.put ur thin great phones in a ugly case and admire it. Don't forget to hv ur charger always with you. USB c is the only thing what can be complained about. For me best phone of 2015. Good job Sony
Boy, 03 Sep 2015small is beautiful, but why it's not dual simI did not buy Z3 compact because it lacked dual sim support. I have been waiting for dual sim support in a compact body and Sony messed me up again. Why?. Is it that they find it difficult to add extra sim. What should I do now? Sony should consider a dual sim version as soon as possible.
waeb, 02 Sep 2015Good that the back is changed, but is very disapointed about only 2 GB ram and only 2700mAh. T... moreI have lenovo p770. decent specs with massive battery but no software updates. even i am planning for new phone. this has compact form factor and battery but software updates?
google nexus is coming with 2700mah but 5.2" FHD...really confused... and yes the price!!!
I waited long for this one! I think its the best phone available in the market in terms of size, specs, design, camera and more...
I will definitely buy a Z5C soon! I own a Z3C now with awesome battery life, decent camera and good performance, and its perfect in my hand, and Z5C is a decent upgrade over that.
Now to clarify the "CHUNKINESS" issue with the Z5C, I have a great Galaxy S5 which is very thin in my hand / book, it is 8.1mm thick, I handled the Z3c which is 8.6mm and felt very thin & comfortable for me, and REALLY compact like my very old S3, now this is .3 of mm thicker,,, like a hair breadth thicker, can anybody feel this in hand? No way. Now it looks thicker than the Z3c because of a very wise design choice SONY made to extend the metal frame to cover the glass edges for much better protection, KUDOS. Now what really matters in the comparison with the older model in my book? First, The doubled internal memory capacity since new android will not install anything on SD cards. Second, the fingerprint security. Third, the mentioned extra protection for the glass edges. So, in my book, a job very well done SONY. Now the only question is,,,,, WHEN CAN I GET IT???? Can't wait..
G4, 02 Sep 2015But Snapdragon 810 :(The newest snapdragon 810 doesn't over heats even in the recording of 4k video over 15 mins go check Youtube for the reviews bro.. And you that the same 810 chip is alos present in one plus two
So, don't ruin every sony z5 phones post by saying this .. Just stop spamming every z5 post