I've seen pre-orders in Sony store - 590EUR for Z5c? Ridiculous.
AnonD-89334, 08 Sep 2015I cant belive in its fourth generation it still using a 720p screen (ZR, Z1C, Z3C and Z5C), th... moreThat 720p screen is not all bad according to me. Because you can save on power consumption. Which means more battery efficient than 1080p on screen that size. All Sony need to do is to play well on their screen technology like optimizing X-Reality, Triluminos, something like that.
AnonD-89334, 08 Sep 2015I cant belive in its fourth generation it still using a 720p screen (ZR, Z1C, Z3C and Z5C), th... moreIts the compact not the flagship, but i agree a 1080P screen would have been a nice addition
I am extremely dissapointed from the last two generations of mobiles.
I had G2, which I considered the best mobile I ever had, barable size, excellent bazels, so that you enjoy big screen estate for what you carry and fantastic battery, tgat letvyou use your phone without worries that it wont make it to home.
Then I got myself the G3, to continue the bazel trend. I was dissapointed, the size was a bit over the top to me and the battery was horrible, I am afrad to use my phone for everything else but calls, because I know it wont make the long day to home. Ever since I loom for smth smaller, with a better battery performance ideally it would be dust and water resistant as well, to avoid digitizer issues from dust and warranty void due to atmospheric humidity.
I believe that the mobile phone, in order to remain monile should not be over 15cm long and 150grams heavy. However, as I am a power user, I cannot make compromises at the performance of my device. So this phone seems to be my soulmate to be.
Compact size, without any compromises! I use my GPS with guided voice,so I need gps on at all times, a 3d Atlas anatomy occasionally, some random browsing for on the spot info, viber, fb mess and whatsup running in the background, in 4G inviroment and play one race/day of real racing3 for the bonus. Is that too much? Well for the 2.5k G3 it is...
I know that I should have bought the Z3c and I regret not buying it, but since its still 400euros here and the next one is around the corner, I thought that I should have waited.
The wait gave me 32gb of internal storage, which us great as a couple of ganes like RR3 wich a 3.5GB each are enough to give low memory messages, newer chip, prolonged OS development, far better camera, flapless charging, but the greatest question is will it have a similar battery?? I for one, I am glad that it is 720p, for this size the difference from 1080p to 720p, would be less than from G3 to G2 and I have decided that it is not worthy of the compromises. High resolution is just a gimmick and this coming from an owner of the first Qhd holders. 300ppi is more tgan enough to please anyones eyes, even on graphically intense apps. The trend nowdays is to increase tgecresolution and make it thinner by sacrificing battery capacity, as i developed an allergy on these and on huge size devices, I expect that Z5c will be the answer and I am glad that its 2mm thicker, so it can carry a bigger battery, kept the 720p who is still is +300ppi and adds uber perfomance and lower battery use, but what really bothers me are the preliminary gsmarena baterry tests, the Z5c comparing to Z3c, heck even G3, fails miserably at tslking and standby times, its even worse thats is bigger sibling Z5, how is it possible, could be some drain issue due to the beta stage OS? This will surely affect the overall battery performance and my final decision on this product. My number 1 choice would be, S6 active, but Samsung decided to keep it Us exclusive so the ball is now on Sony's court...
I cant belive in its fourth generation it still using a 720p screen (ZR, Z1C, Z3C and Z5C), the gap between the 323 ppi, and the 806 ppi from the premium its insane, it should have at least a 1080p screen for a 2015 flagship. Shame on you sony.
Great news for those who plan buying z5c... Great news indeed...
Top and bottom bezel are of different size, why? What happened to "omnibalance design"?
TeD, 06 Sep 2015Problem is that people are not willing to spend so much money 800 $ on a very small phone that... moreThe leaked price isn't 800$ if I'm not mistaken. Also, there are quite a few of us who want flagship specs in a Compact android phone. Sony introduced this concept with Z1 Compact. If you look at phones like S5 Mini and HTC one mini 2 and LG G3 beat, they are a huge step down from their respective big sized flagships, whereas Z1 Compact wasn't. It was actually better than Z1.
Your all complain is very easy to answer if you don't like the features and design of the z5 cuz u think nothing is special u can just look for another brand that catch ur interest and if you dont like the z5 but you luv sony then wait for the z5+ or z6... But if z5+ and z6 doesn't catch ur interest again well i must say you have to switch to another brand and if u really luv sony and again u don't like the the newer phone well u have to bring some buddy of urs and go to the main office of sony bro maybe that can help... :-D
TeD, 06 Sep 2015Problem is that people are not willing to spend so much money 800 $ on a very small phone that... moreNothing special for real bro? People dont buy compact size if they don't like compact size and if people don't like big phone even it is cheaper they will not buy it bro trust me...like me i like the features of the bigger bro of z5c but i don't like big phone that covers your whole face when someone is calling or calling... I like the new z5c cuz the price is right bro for the features and ist sony ur paying for the name bro...:-D
Only the Sony z5c catches my eye the design and material and the features... im currently using sony zr i do luv phone with a removable batt thats why i never upgrade phone since the new z line phone arrive but when z5c arrive the design and the features it make me say dang is this for real? My only concern is the sd810 soc hope it doesn't heat like hell cuz if not well another bby in my pocket i must say...:-D
Problem is that people are not willing to spend so much money 800 $ on a very small phone that looks nothing special. They can buy a good looking 5.5" phone they can show off for a lot less ...It just does look expensive for what you get...
Eldakka, 05 Sep 2015"The Z5 camera is made in conjunction with Sony Alpha camera engineers, so its gonna be t... moreYou don't require a better camera, don't require a fingerprint reader, don't require better performance, don't require a better design or stronger chassis. So just say that only you feel that Z5 Compact is a incremental update. You don't require all the important things.
Hoping Wifi issue is solved on Z5C unlike what I experienced (xperienced)on my current phone which is Z3C.....my Z3C didn't even upgrade to Android 5.0 over Wifi ..I had to use bundles which was quit expensive considering I pay for Wifi services .
Eldakka, 05 Sep 2015"The Z5 camera is made in conjunction with Sony Alpha camera engineers, so its gonna be t... morePerformance increase is definite, no need of benchmarks. Also, Snapdragon 810 isnt more power hungry than 801.
AnonD-89316, 04 Sep 20152Gb of RAM is already enough you know. Now I ask you, what will you do with 4Gb of RAM on this... more"2Gb of RAM is already enough you know. Now I ask you, what will you do with 4Gb of RAM on this little phone? Play games? well... The truth is, the graphics on mobile games aren't that great compared to Console (PS, XBOX) or PC games. So, 2Gb of RAM is enough for mobile gaming in this size. Or, you want a multi task? Well... To make your phone faster, you can close the apps which aren't necessary from the recent app screen. And don't install unnecessary apps. Then you will realize that 2Gb of RAM is enough (or even over) for this 720p, 4.6" screen phone."
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Actually, under Android more than any other OS I've ever used, memory matters.
Nothing to do with graphics.
It's the way Android uses memory and what it decides to trash from memory. If you have multiple tabs open in a browser to various sites and say switch to another app (send an SMS, or answer a call, or switch to another browser with other open sessions in it) and Android may think you've 'closed' the browser and trash its memory and open sessions. What this means is that when you go back to the browser, the OS will reload the entire thing, re-download all the open pages again. Using up quota download and, at the same time, trashing login-session that are open and forcing you to re-login to sites that you may have open. What this also means is that if you had a notification type-webapp, say a social app or something, it's basically logged you out and now you are not getting notifications from the webapp in the browser because the OS has decided to trash it.
it's frustrating as hell to have a couple-dozen tabs open in a browser, 1 or 2 on sites that you login to (e.g. facebook) that notify you of messages or other events. but because you've answered a phone call the OS has decided to trash all the data memory of a backgrounded app. Then when you go back you have to re-download the pages, so switching tabs slows to a crawl as it re-downloads the pages that you were viewing 3 minutes ago. Virtual Memory management in Android sucks. I'm not even sure if Android DOES virtual memory management.
And closing apps from the recent app screen DOESN'T unload the app from memory. If the application itself provides no "quit" functionality, closing the app from the recent apps screen takes it out of the scheduler tree so it doesn't need to be loaded onto a CPU, but the memory is still there until Android decides to go clean it up.
As to your reference to games and what-not, it wasn't that long ago that a dual-core 2GHz (let alone a quad-or-more core) system with 720p graphics would have been considered a decent gaming rig...
S810 seems not good for battery endurance. Imo sony should choose s808 for z5c
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2015Yes, more megapixels doesn't mean more better camera. In the case of Z3C and Z5C, easily the Z... more"The Z5 camera is made in conjunction with Sony Alpha camera engineers, so its gonna be the best."
OK, I stand corrected, the camera is significantly better. But as I said, a better camera is not a buying point for me, the Galaxy S3's camera is adequate for my needs. I LIKE having a better camera, the Z3Cs blows away my previous S3's, but it is not an important upgrade factor. I have digital SLR cameras for when I want to take quality photos.
Fingerprint reader? For _ME_ irrelevant. I prefer the security of an 8 digit passcode.
"stronger aluminium frame, while the Z3C only had a plastic frame, glossy glass is replaced by frosted glass which gives better grip in Z5C." Excellent, but again not a compelling upgrade. Definitely a factor in choosing between phones when upgrading, but not a reason TO upgrade.
"better performance, battery, " I haven't seen any benchmarks of this phone yet. Like with a camera and megapixels, a newer SoC doesn't necessarily mean better performance. I HAVE seen many benchmarks of the 810 SoC in other phones, and the performance is not very impressive. The 810 SoC has thermal management problems. It has to turn off it's faster cores very quickly and leave just the low-power slower cores, which are slower than the 801 cores, running. As for the battery, this site is showing a roughly 33% REDUCTION in battery life. Again, a bigger battery with more mAh doesn't mean better battery if the power draw is greater and the total battery lifetime between charges is reduced.