Lex79, 29 Dec 2015It is the nature of the Android business model that devices utilising it never retain value, d... more100% correct i.e they are offering the free headphone to lure & fool the customers ,btw the same is going on for the MS lumia 950XL .&.dont even talk abt LG G4 it is available for nearly half of its orignal price.
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015As opposed to...for example more expensive iphone6+ or samsung galaxy s6+, being something ent... moreAm not a fan of the iPhone 'Plus' series, nor do I like the S6 Edge Plus, that device is as irrelevant as its name is silly.
However Samsung do offer the Note 5 which actually does offer real advantages befitting its size.
4K screen - Hugely redundant
Increased SOC performance??? The 810 lags behind other high end competing SOC's from 2015. The dozen or so extra points it scores in the Z5P over the Z5 doesn't even get close to making up that shortfall.
And a different back design.........right, yeah let's go with that 'innovation' shall we.
You are I see your usual woefully ill informed self. But at least you were honest, your comment was lame.
Lex79, 28 Dec 2015I agree, aside from the gimmicky 4K screen, which the rest of the device's hardware is never g... moreAs opposed to...for example more expensive iphone6+ or samsung galaxy s6+, being something entirely different than just bigger iphone6 or samsung s6?!? Or note5 being s6+ with spen added?
At least Sony gives extra tech 4k resolution screen, better SoC performance and different back design for that extra price, whilst apple and samsung give... just that extra inches and nothing more for extra price.
Lame comment. Duh...
AnonD-100398, 28 Dec 2015moreover the rear camera has f/ 2.0 and front camera is f/2.4 not like costly f/1.9 for both ... moreIt is the nature of the Android business model that devices utilising it never retain value, despite the specs.
Sony's mobile division, despite the fanatical following it enjoys (fanatical, but no where near large enough to be profitable it seems) is not exempt from this.
I just replied to another person mentioning a eBay advert that is on my screen showing the Z5P is falling right in line with expectations within the Android world.
I'll give the Sony faithful another example, in the uk the Z5 launched at 549.99, and the Compact at £449.99. The Z5 can now be bought brand new from Amazon for around £430 and the Compact is going for £379.99 and that includes a free set of Sony SBH60 Bluetooth headphones.
Whether these aggressive price reductions result in increased sales for Sony, is anyone's guess (Amazon appears not to be selling out of stock of either as a result) but the same pattern has been true with previous Xperia devices and it has not helped Sony's mobile division turn a profit.
♧ Bravo &a, 28 Dec 2015SONY XperiaÂ™ Z5 Premium is the best smartphone ever, It has a 4K display which is impossible ... moreYou think other manufacturers are incapable of making a mobile 4K display?????......very naive if you.
As for your immature 'haters gonna hate' line, you are obviously to dum to be able to participate in conversation, so instead resort to the childish 'they are all haters' nonsense. Oh and I use a 128gb iPhone 6S, so I could more than afford to buy a Z5P if I choose too.
In fact, to the left of my page is an eBay advert showing Z5P's selling for as low as £470 (with free shipping no less) proof that the device's value is falling constantly and in line with all other Android flagships, it was going for around the £600 mark just a few weeks ago!
Dual heatpipes, 29 Dec 2015It looks like the Samsung and LG trolls are very hardworking giving comments at here. That's w... moreAnd here comes Dual heat pipes with its usual 'I am obsessed with loving Sony' propaganda!
You don't like Korean phone makers???? Well that's certainly your right, just as it is anyone else's to critique Sony's mobile contributions.
But I'm not sure where your getting your 'why don't they focus on their software updates' line (your Sony obsessed delusional little mind as usual I'll bet) both Samsung ang LG at least appear to be making as much as, if not more of an effort to stay up to date in software terms as Sony. Isn't the G4 already getting is marshmallow update???? And there is an article on this very site containing a video showing the S6 Edge running its 6.0.1 firmware.
It's not trolling, nor is it 'defaming', it's simply discussing facts and opinions, stop being childish and grow up.
I wants to know is Sony Xperia Z5 Premium Display better then Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus.
Dual heatpipes, 29 Dec 2015It looks like the Samsung and LG trolls are very hardworking giving comments at here. That's w... moreSo true,,, They see the SLEEPING Giant (Sony) in their rear view mirror. Haha
It looks like the Samsung and LG trolls are very hardworking giving comments at here. That's why I don't like Korea phone maker. Why they don't focus on their software updates? It is shame they are using the trolling strategy to defame Sony.
Lex79, 28 Dec 2015I agree, aside from the gimmicky 4K screen, which the rest of the device's hardware is never g... moremoreover the rear camera has f/ 2.0 and front camera is f/2.4 not like costly f/1.9 for both cameras and the low light photography also goes for a toss..Its very clear that sony is saving all those expenive specs for its future smartphones and charge even more for that later.
If you see the ps4 specs u will find that its specs are top notch and no console has any better better and expensive specs than ps4. sony is ready to even sell it for a lower price and take a loss for a while cause they know that they can recover the money from there psn accounts and the high games prices
As there are no games and there is no need for any psn accounts esp for Z5p and it uses a comman OS platform called android they do not have any way to recover the money as a result sony is being extra smart and fooling ppl with a uncooked and not at all premium z5p smartphone at a very expensive price .
I bet if android wud not have been there and if sony wud have got its own OS and some type of subcription wud have been needed to use there smartphone then no other OEM's wud have been able to touch there overall quality of the smartphone sony wud have offered.Then they wud have been even ready to sell that high end smartphone for a loss .cause they know how to recover the money.
But they sud know that they cannot fool everybody with this kind of game .and avoiding to offer quality and top notch specs.just cause they cannot recover there money later..
They sud know that if they wud offer best specs available in the market then even if they keep the prices high for there smartphones ppl wud still buy them..No matter what.
AnonD-100398, 28 Dec 2015along with only 32gb memory The other specs like sd810 , only 3gb ram, No super amoled screen,... moreI agree, aside from the gimmicky 4K screen, which the rest of the device's hardware is never going to be able to fully support (hence Sony's decision out of necessity to have it run in 1080p mode over 90% of the time) the Premium is little more than a slightly larger Z5.
SONY XperiaÂ™ Z5 Premium is the best smartphone ever, It has a 4K display which is impossible for other manufacturers to even think about. All other manufacturers are just crap against SONY. Haters gonna hate because they are cheap fellas who can't afford this amazing smartphone. SONY you are the best. I am a proud SONY user too. I've used HTC, Apple, Samsung, etc but nothing like a SONY.
Lex79, 28 Dec 2015The size of on device memory is an issue and I agree, 32gb is not what it used to be. Howev... morealong with only 32gb memory The other specs like sd810 , only 3gb ram, No super amoled screen, Thick bezels same design also makes the OEM costs a lot cheaper That is why i was saying that Z5p is Not at all Premium as sony is showing it to be and charging a high price for it ,This phone is just a Z5 Plus..Not a Z5 premium.
Lex79, 28 Dec 2015The size of on device memory is an issue and I agree, 32gb is not what it used to be. Howev... moreThat is why i was saying that Z5p is Not at all Premium as sony is showing it to be and charging a high price for it ,This phone is just a Z5 Plus..Not a Z5 premium.
kimhong, 25 Dec 2015Between Sony xperia Z5 and Z5 Premium , which one is better ? Premium
Joe Philippines, 28 Dec 2015i'm so disappointed with the screen of Xperia Z5 Premium. . what happen to you Sony? S6 Edge&... moreBecause Samsung is using AMOLED screen tehnology so it has more saturated colors and look better. But sony uses more realistic colors and it might not look that great
I dont like z5 or z5c but i would love to have an opportunity to use z5 premium. But fortunately in my country z5 premium isnt selling. ;(
AnonD-22824, 25 Dec 2015Bad memory management has nothing to do with the memory shortage warning i expected you to atl... moreThe size of on device memory is an issue and I agree, 32gb is not what it used to be.
However another issue, Just as, if not more important is memory speed. The Emmc used by most oems (including Sony) is amongst the slowest solution on the market.
This issue will become more visible as higher than 1080p content (and the hugely increased file size associated with such content) becomes more prevalent. Also, as device encryption is being made mandatory in devices using android 6.0, and given android oems (Samsung aside) failure to address the speed bottleneck by relying on software decryption, this issue may again become more apparent.
As far as I am aware, Sony along with most other Android manufacturers are going to continue using the Emmc solution. So this may become more of an issue in 2016, yes Emmc 5.1 is faster but it is still miles behind the UFS used by Samsung and the PCIe & NMVe used by Apple in the 6S. The guys over at Anandtech make several references to the importance of memory speed in their recent reviews of the IPhone 6S, Nexus 6P & 5X.