AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Aha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal opinions on every point. So you are... moreonly a fool wud insert the spen in a opposite direction and it is not a OEM fault .what u r talking .is like one are trying to insert the usb type C port charging cable on a Usb 2.0 smartphone forcefully i mean who wud be that fool to do that. and break there lovely smartphone...having said that Z5p is one of most overrated smartphone for its gimmiky 4k screen and it is not at all Premium...
P.s even a QHD screen can do a quality VR so its not a like it is only limited to Z5p.
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Aha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal opinions on every point. So you are... moreI'm not beating around the bush at all, anyone reading my posts by now is more than aware of my current stance regarding Sony's mobile division. But unfortunately you fanboys are unable to comprehend the difference between trolling and critique.
GPU performance difference is minimal between the two devices, and besides, there is one aspect of performance that few reviews touch upon: sustained performance. If you go read the Anandtech review of any 810 based android devise this year, you'll see there in their findings there is a big issue with the sustainable performance of the 2015 generation of Android flagships based on 810.
So much of an issue in fact, that according to Anandtech the sustainable performance of the 810 is in many cases actually less than that of the 805, so whilst the Z5P may perform ever so slightly better in one or two benchmarks versus the Note 5, that performance will rapidly dip, much faster than the Exynos in the Note 5. Don't take my word for it, go and read the reviews yourself.
You also say "And it is faster in multitask much more than note5, slightly than iphone" Now whilst on the surface that is a vague statement, it hint at specific findings. So again, what metrics are you basing it on??? or is it just pro Sony rhetoric???
Design is subjective, yes there are pro's to Sony's take, there are also many cons, the fragility of the glass front and back for instance, or the relatively poor placement of the fingerprint scanner for left handed users. Pro's and con's, but all you ever seem to waffle on about are the pro's and accuse anyone mentioning the cons of trolling, it's childish to the extreme!
I actually like the design of the Xperia Z series, have for years, I would list it as a strength of the series, but again I weigh it's good points against it's negatives, with you, and cause it's Sony....it's all Good!!!!
As far as I am aware, the Z5P does not use it's 4k mode for VR, as that would be way to taxing on the GPU and battery, so other than glancing at photo's or the occasional video, in which case the vast majority of findings suggest there is little to no benefit of doing at 4k over 2k on a 5.5 inch screen, there is nothing that display offers.
Surprise Surprise, the Z5P is according to you the best Phablet out there, but then that was always going to be the case for you wasn't it??
I'm betting the Z5c is the best device with less than a 5 inch screen???
The Z5 is the best mainstream flagship too eh???
And it's no question that they were always going to be, weren't they Tann Hauser?????
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Yes I'll informed and biased to the extreme.
The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything o... moreAha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal opinions on every point. So you are right, no sense in debating between us ;-) .
But do learn to comprehend what you read.
Did not say its best exynos device did I?
And note is inferior in gpu performance, which the user actually notices more than cpu performance
And it is faster in multitask much more than note5, slightly than iphone.
About build,its easily objectifiable, just count pros that each build feature adds to useability of the device.
About note5, nope, nothing except faulty designed s pen and bigger screen against s6, and that 1 gb ram extra is never used by that SoC ( do see ram managment for proof).
About that 4k screen, there are still no apps that utilise it, but VR performance comes to mind. We shall wait and see
Each to its own
IMO z5 prem is most complete and best made flag phablet out there
IYO it is obviously not...
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015And here comes Dual heat pipes with its usual 'I am obsessed with loving Sony' propaganda!
... moreThe Z5 series are good phone, why you all only pay attention to the advantage of other phones especially Samsung?! And you only troll Sony products badly, why???? And you are frequently to do that.
Don't ever foolish people by your comments at Sony opinion page, you messing up quite obviously.
I know the competitors have a lot of trolls at here, because they really don't have a Z5 and they just giving faulty comments and misleading people. This the most rubbish and shameless marketing strategy.
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Yes I'll informed and biased to the extreme. The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything o... moreI bet people like you didn't complain when the vivo released the xplay 3s having a 2k display phone. And Samsung then also moved to 2k to some of their products and everyone thinks that Samsung is the best.Nobody complained about it because Samsung(everyone's favorite except me) moved to 2k.Nobody thought its gimmick because Samsung moved to 2k. And now, Sony( world's most underrated company) released their 2nd flagship this year which is z5p with a 4k screen, and everyone who heard it thinks its a gimmick. Sony,you should have let Sammy took the name of the first company to release a 4k screen phone, so when you release one, nobody would think its only a gimmick.
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Ill informed?
Duh, I see you came only to troll obviously...
What has note 5 over s6edge+ be... moreYes I'll informed and biased to the extreme.
The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything over the S6 Edge Plus, they were released at the same time. Like I said, I don't see the point of the Edge Plus.
The Note 5 however, offer's far more when compared to the Standard S6, than the Z5P offers over the Z5.
Being the best performing 810 device? aside from the fact that as far as I am aware, no one has as yet made that claim in an official review, that still places it firmly behind the Exynos 7420 competition (and the Apple A9). Best mutli-tasking???? what metrics are you basing that on??
Design is also another subjective issue, your opinion that it's better, is just that, your opinion, and it comes from you with as much bias as it would an official Sony sales rep.
As for 3d touch being gimmicky??, well we'll see what you have of say about that when Sony, like the rest of the Android world adopt it in their future devices. I remember Touch ID was also called a gimmick by Android (and Sony) Fans, now however they seem to have changed their tune.
I do agree with you though that the Edge on the S6 Edge series is a gimmicky as the 4k screen is on the Z5P.
And finally, though |I have explained this to you over and over, I am not bias against Sony, I am however critical of them, If you can't differentiate between the two, then it's pointless talking to you.
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Am not a fan of the iPhone 'Plus' series, nor do I like the S6 Edge Plus, that device is as ir... moreIll informed?
Duh, I see you came only to troll obviously...
What has note 5 over s6edge+ besides a faulty designed spen?
Z5 prem is best performing sd810 device, fastest multitasker, and also second best graphic performing flag phablet after iphone6s+
Design is already waaay ahead over any iphone or any galaxy no matter z5 or z5 prem, with its solid build, water resistance, extra shutter button, non protruding camera unit, stereo speakers placement, and side placed fingerprint scanner.
4k on z5 prem is as gimmicky as force touch on iphone or edge part of the screen on samsung...you do not really need it, but its there for extra feature sake...
Please stop being obviously bias against anything Sony.
Joe Philippines, 28 Dec 2015i'm so disappointed with the screen of Xperia Z5 Premium. .
what happen to you Sony? S6 Edge&... moreone of my colleague bought Samsung s6 edge + from Kuwait. problem came with overheating and battery charge draining, whenever he plays any games or even simple browsing he find his phone gets extreme hot and loses charges quickly.
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015It is the nature of the Android business model that devices utilising it never retain value, d... more100% correct i.e they are offering the free headphone to lure & fool the customers ,btw the same is going on for the MS lumia 950XL .&.dont even talk abt LG G4 it is available for nearly half of its orignal price.
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015As opposed to...for example more expensive iphone6+ or samsung galaxy s6+, being something ent... moreAm not a fan of the iPhone 'Plus' series, nor do I like the S6 Edge Plus, that device is as irrelevant as its name is silly.
However Samsung do offer the Note 5 which actually does offer real advantages befitting its size.
4K screen - Hugely redundant
Increased SOC performance??? The 810 lags behind other high end competing SOC's from 2015. The dozen or so extra points it scores in the Z5P over the Z5 doesn't even get close to making up that shortfall.
And a different back design.........right, yeah let's go with that 'innovation' shall we.
You are I see your usual woefully ill informed self. But at least you were honest, your comment was lame.
Lex79, 28 Dec 2015I agree, aside from the gimmicky 4K screen, which the rest of the device's hardware is never g... moreAs opposed to...for example more expensive iphone6+ or samsung galaxy s6+, being something entirely different than just bigger iphone6 or samsung s6?!? Or note5 being s6+ with spen added?
At least Sony gives extra tech 4k resolution screen, better SoC performance and different back design for that extra price, whilst apple and samsung give... just that extra inches and nothing more for extra price.
Lame comment. Duh...
AnonD-100398, 28 Dec 2015moreover the rear camera has f/ 2.0 and front camera is f/2.4 not like costly f/1.9 for both ... moreIt is the nature of the Android business model that devices utilising it never retain value, despite the specs.
Sony's mobile division, despite the fanatical following it enjoys (fanatical, but no where near large enough to be profitable it seems) is not exempt from this.
I just replied to another person mentioning a eBay advert that is on my screen showing the Z5P is falling right in line with expectations within the Android world.
I'll give the Sony faithful another example, in the uk the Z5 launched at 549.99, and the Compact at £449.99. The Z5 can now be bought brand new from Amazon for around £430 and the Compact is going for £379.99 and that includes a free set of Sony SBH60 Bluetooth headphones.
Whether these aggressive price reductions result in increased sales for Sony, is anyone's guess (Amazon appears not to be selling out of stock of either as a result) but the same pattern has been true with previous Xperia devices and it has not helped Sony's mobile division turn a profit.
♧ Bravo &a, 28 Dec 2015SONY XperiaÂ™ Z5 Premium is the best smartphone ever, It has a 4K display which is impossible ... moreYou think other manufacturers are incapable of making a mobile 4K display?????......very naive if you.
As for your immature 'haters gonna hate' line, you are obviously to dum to be able to participate in conversation, so instead resort to the childish 'they are all haters' nonsense. Oh and I use a 128gb iPhone 6S, so I could more than afford to buy a Z5P if I choose too.
In fact, to the left of my page is an eBay advert showing Z5P's selling for as low as £470 (with free shipping no less) proof that the device's value is falling constantly and in line with all other Android flagships, it was going for around the £600 mark just a few weeks ago!
Dual heatpipes, 29 Dec 2015It looks like the Samsung and LG trolls are very hardworking giving comments at here. That's w... moreAnd here comes Dual heat pipes with its usual 'I am obsessed with loving Sony' propaganda!
You don't like Korean phone makers???? Well that's certainly your right, just as it is anyone else's to critique Sony's mobile contributions.
But I'm not sure where your getting your 'why don't they focus on their software updates' line (your Sony obsessed delusional little mind as usual I'll bet) both Samsung ang LG at least appear to be making as much as, if not more of an effort to stay up to date in software terms as Sony. Isn't the G4 already getting is marshmallow update???? And there is an article on this very site containing a video showing the S6 Edge running its 6.0.1 firmware.
It's not trolling, nor is it 'defaming', it's simply discussing facts and opinions, stop being childish and grow up.
I wants to know is Sony Xperia Z5 Premium Display better then Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus.
Dual heatpipes, 29 Dec 2015It looks like the Samsung and LG trolls are very hardworking giving comments at here. That's w... moreSo true,,, They see the SLEEPING Giant (Sony) in their rear view mirror. Haha
It looks like the Samsung and LG trolls are very hardworking giving comments at here. That's why I don't like Korea phone maker. Why they don't focus on their software updates? It is shame they are using the trolling strategy to defame Sony.
Lex79, 28 Dec 2015I agree, aside from the gimmicky 4K screen, which the rest of the device's hardware is never g... moremoreover the rear camera has f/ 2.0 and front camera is f/2.4 not like costly f/1.9 for both cameras and the low light photography also goes for a toss..Its very clear that sony is saving all those expenive specs for its future smartphones and charge even more for that later.
If you see the ps4 specs u will find that its specs are top notch and no console has any better better and expensive specs than ps4. sony is ready to even sell it for a lower price and take a loss for a while cause they know that they can recover the money from there psn accounts and the high games prices
As there are no games and there is no need for any psn accounts esp for Z5p and it uses a comman OS platform called android they do not have any way to recover the money as a result sony is being extra smart and fooling ppl with a uncooked and not at all premium z5p smartphone at a very expensive price .
I bet if android wud not have been there and if sony wud have got its own OS and some type of subcription wud have been needed to use there smartphone then no other OEM's wud have been able to touch there overall quality of the smartphone sony wud have offered.Then they wud have been even ready to sell that high end smartphone for a loss .cause they know how to recover the money.
But they sud know that they cannot fool everybody with this kind of game .and avoiding to offer quality and top notch specs.just cause they cannot recover there money later..
They sud know that if they wud offer best specs available in the market then even if they keep the prices high for there smartphones ppl wud still buy them..No matter what.
AnonD-100398, 28 Dec 2015along with only 32gb memory The other specs like sd810 , only 3gb ram, No super amoled screen,... moreI agree, aside from the gimmicky 4K screen, which the rest of the device's hardware is never going to be able to fully support (hence Sony's decision out of necessity to have it run in 1080p mode over 90% of the time) the Premium is little more than a slightly larger Z5.
SONY XperiaÂ™ Z5 Premium is the best smartphone ever, It has a 4K display which is impossible for other manufacturers to even think about. All other manufacturers are just crap against SONY. Haters gonna hate because they are cheap fellas who can't afford this amazing smartphone. SONY you are the best. I am a proud SONY user too. I've used HTC, Apple, Samsung, etc but nothing like a SONY.