Sony Xperia Z5 Premium - user opinions and reviews
- Lex79
- LhP
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015This:
"But I'm not sure where your getting your 'why don't they focus on their software updat... more........what?????
Let me get this straight, I tell you that you are unable to tell the difference between critical comments and trolling.......
And your response is to copy and paste my critical comments into a reply in which you basically accuse me of trolling?!??!?!............right..........
You haven't actually refuted any of the points that you have pasted into your, frankly pathetic reply, all you have done here is make your usual silly accusations, can you not even see that???????
Whilst I have got you on the subject of...how did you put it: "Overexaggerating without actual substance in praise of another manufacturer device."
Here one of your prior posts:
"SD card,
stereo speakers, hifi audio, ldac bt sound (ie overall best connectivity),
best overall camera,
strongest gpu, fastest fingerprint sensor, fastest multitasking,
best blacks ips screen, best batterylife,
waterproof build, ps4 remoteplay,
best cost benefit ratio/ has sd card for up to 220 gb space, (ry buying iphone 6s or galaxy s6 with 128 gb with their pricetags, so you dont have to worry for your 4k video feature storage, or flac files, or ... and then talk about affordability)"
This is one of your earlier diatribes in which you basically claim that everything about the Z5 is the best, but you do so without any actual substance, as you say.
Now whose exaggerating without substance, based on bias???????
And again I have asked you twice now to back up your claim of faster multi tasking on the Z5P compared to the Note 5 and iPhone by using actual metrics or data that is not your own warped opinion, but you can't even do that can you??????
I wash my hands of you Tann, I have said it before, you are everything that is wrong about being a fanboy, you can't issue a comment at all unless it's to spout your own pro Sony popoganda or to make childish accusations.
I didn't start this latest conversation with you, but why dont we go back to an earlier agreement we made, I'll continue to praise or critique devices and manufacturers based on experience or research....and you can go back to claiming everything about every Sony smartphone ever is the absolute and unquestionable best in the mobile world...simply because you love Sony!
And we'll give each other's comments a wide berth!
- Dual heatpipes
- IVV
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Your right the Z5 series is a good smartphone series...just not perfect as you and your fellow... moreCritical comments only from you, if you love LG or Samsung just use it and don't trolling Sony at here, as a Sony fans I wouldn't like this, same with all others.
Then, You have to read this:
The Z5 camera is the world best smartphone camera!
http://petapixel.com/2015/10/01/dxomark-the-sony-xperia-z5-packs-the-worlds-best-smartphone-camera/
No need you agree or not, that's the fact, and my software updates always better than your Korea phones, you know why? They are busy on trolling at Sony side but not on something serious.
- AnonD-404798
- d%{
AnonD-436501, 03 Sep 2015RAM management on android works different from computers, android uses as much RAM as it can, ... morethat is sign of heavy overlaying skin boolsh*t like touchwiz which is lagging piece of crap.
- AnonD-391800
- Bmu
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Your right the Z5 series is a good smartphone series...just not perfect as you and your fellow... moreThis:
"But I'm not sure where your getting your 'why don't they focus on their software updates' line (your Sony obsessed delusional little mind as usual I'll bet) both Samsung ang LG at least appear to be making as much as, if not more of an effort to stay up to date in software terms as Sony. Isn't the G4 already getting is marshmallow update???? And there is an article on this very site containing a video showing the S6 Edge running its 6.0.1 firmware."
Ill informed comment based on bias against sony...
This:
"Sony's mobile division, despite the fanatical following it enjoys (fanatical, but no where near large enough to be profitable it seems) is not exempt from this."
Labeling sony fans whilst entirely excluding other manufacturer fans out of the same label.
This:
"The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything over the S6 Edge Plus, they were released at the same time. Like I said, I don't see the point of the Edge Plus.
The Note 5 however, offer's far more when compared to the Standard S6, than the Z5P offers over the Z5."
Overexaggerating without actual substance in praise of another manufacturer device.
This:
"As for 3d touch being gimmicky??, well we'll see what you have of say about that when Sony, like the rest of the Android world adopt it in their future devices. I remember Touch ID was also called a gimmick by Android (and Sony) Fans, now however they seem to have changed their tune. "
Bias to apples gimmicks being an owner of one and claiming it to be more valuable than other manufacturers gimmicks.
This:
"4K screen - Hugely redundant
Increased SOC performance??? The 810 lags behind other high end competing SOC's from 2015. The dozen or so extra points it scores in the Z5P over the Z5 doesn't even get close to making up that shortfall.
And a different back design.........right, yeah let's go with that 'innovation' shall we."
Deliberately reading my claims wrongly so to input his subjective points on tech matters and of course without proper sony user experience and also against a sony device in any way possible.
So yeah, an iphone biased, ill informed sony fan/user hater...
- Lex79
- gL@
AnonD-100398, 29 Dec 2015100% correct i.e they are offering the free headphone to lure & fool the customers ,btw th... moreAye, That G4 thing really bothers me, I paid £506 from Clove Technology (a UK online retailer) to get one on launch day and that was the plastic version, now it's going for £269.99 for the leather one.
Obviously I have since parted with the device, not because I was unhappy with it or anything, if fact I think it's a prime candidate for best Android phone of the year, but that's just my opinion before any of the Sony crowd jump down my throat!
- Lex79
- gL@
Dual heatpipes, 29 Dec 2015The Z5 series are good phone, why you all only pay attention to the advantage of other phones ... moreYour right the Z5 series is a good smartphone series...just not perfect as you and your fellow Sony zealots are constantly claiming, they have many flaws, just like the competition.
If I am overly critical of Sony, then it is because I know they can do better, they have made choices during the recent generations of their mobile products that I haven't agreed with, based on sales figures of such devices, I am not alone in that opinion.
Sorry that seems to upset you and those like you so much, but who cares!
You feel you have a right to your opinion, I therefore have a right to mine. I just don't base mine on bias towards or against any electronic goods manufacturing company.
You like Tann Hauser simply lack the ability to tell the difference between critical comments and trolling.
- Lex79
- gL@
Anonymous, 29 Dec 2015I bet people like you didn't complain when the vivo released the xplay 3s having a 2k display ... moreActually anonymous nobody, I am always sceptical when Oem's push the boat in terms of display resolution.
I watched live when Steve Jobs introduced the retina display, and was concerned the rest of the hardware wasn't up to the job of supporting the increased resolution (the A4 chip in the iPhone 4 was little more than and overclocked version of the SoC in the iPhone 3GS).
Was also watching live when LG debuted the G3, was really enjoying what I was seeing right up until the mention the of 2k screen, yes that was when I started rolling my eyes, because I knew LG were announcing a huge increase in display resolution without a corresponding jump in processing power, the Snapdragon 801 is itself little more than an overclocked 800.
To address another of your other silly points, Not everyone thinks Samsung is the best. I was also disappointed when I saw that the S6 was going to feature a 2k screen whilst having a smaller battery than it's predecessor , and considering how much the battery life of the S6 absolutely sucks, I was right to be disappointed.
Had Samsung or Apple or LG, HTC or any of the rest been first with a 4k screen, I would have been just as sceptical.
- AnonD-100398
- g33
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Aha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal opinions on every point. So you are... moreonly a fool wud insert the spen in a opposite direction and it is not a OEM fault .what u r talking .is like one are trying to insert the usb type C port charging cable on a Usb 2.0 smartphone forcefully i mean who wud be that fool to do that. and break there lovely smartphone...having said that Z5p is one of most overrated smartphone for its gimmiky 4k screen and it is not at all Premium...
P.s even a QHD screen can do a quality VR so its not a like it is only limited to Z5p.
- Lex79
- gL@
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Aha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal opinions on every point. So you are... moreI'm not beating around the bush at all, anyone reading my posts by now is more than aware of my current stance regarding Sony's mobile division. But unfortunately you fanboys are unable to comprehend the difference between trolling and critique.
GPU performance difference is minimal between the two devices, and besides, there is one aspect of performance that few reviews touch upon: sustained performance. If you go read the Anandtech review of any 810 based android devise this year, you'll see there in their findings there is a big issue with the sustainable performance of the 2015 generation of Android flagships based on 810.
So much of an issue in fact, that according to Anandtech the sustainable performance of the 810 is in many cases actually less than that of the 805, so whilst the Z5P may perform ever so slightly better in one or two benchmarks versus the Note 5, that performance will rapidly dip, much faster than the Exynos in the Note 5. Don't take my word for it, go and read the reviews yourself.
You also say "And it is faster in multitask much more than note5, slightly than iphone" Now whilst on the surface that is a vague statement, it hint at specific findings. So again, what metrics are you basing it on??? or is it just pro Sony rhetoric???
Design is subjective, yes there are pro's to Sony's take, there are also many cons, the fragility of the glass front and back for instance, or the relatively poor placement of the fingerprint scanner for left handed users. Pro's and con's, but all you ever seem to waffle on about are the pro's and accuse anyone mentioning the cons of trolling, it's childish to the extreme!
I actually like the design of the Xperia Z series, have for years, I would list it as a strength of the series, but again I weigh it's good points against it's negatives, with you, and cause it's Sony....it's all Good!!!!
As far as I am aware, the Z5P does not use it's 4k mode for VR, as that would be way to taxing on the GPU and battery, so other than glancing at photo's or the occasional video, in which case the vast majority of findings suggest there is little to no benefit of doing at 4k over 2k on a 5.5 inch screen, there is nothing that display offers.
Surprise Surprise, the Z5P is according to you the best Phablet out there, but then that was always going to be the case for you wasn't it??
I'm betting the Z5c is the best device with less than a 5 inch screen???
The Z5 is the best mainstream flagship too eh???
And it's no question that they were always going to be, weren't they Tann Hauser?????
- AnonD-391800
- Bmu
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Yes I'll informed and biased to the extreme.
The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything o... moreAha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal opinions on every point. So you are right, no sense in debating between us ;-) .
But do learn to comprehend what you read.
Did not say its best exynos device did I?
And note is inferior in gpu performance, which the user actually notices more than cpu performance
And it is faster in multitask much more than note5, slightly than iphone.
About build,its easily objectifiable, just count pros that each build feature adds to useability of the device.
About note5, nope, nothing except faulty designed s pen and bigger screen against s6, and that 1 gb ram extra is never used by that SoC ( do see ram managment for proof).
About that 4k screen, there are still no apps that utilise it, but VR performance comes to mind. We shall wait and see
Each to its own
IMO z5 prem is most complete and best made flag phablet out there
IYO it is obviously not...
- Dual heatpipes
- vV5
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015And here comes Dual heat pipes with its usual 'I am obsessed with loving Sony' propaganda!
... moreThe Z5 series are good phone, why you all only pay attention to the advantage of other phones especially Samsung?! And you only troll Sony products badly, why???? And you are frequently to do that.
Don't ever foolish people by your comments at Sony opinion page, you messing up quite obviously.
I know the competitors have a lot of trolls at here, because they really don't have a Z5 and they just giving faulty comments and misleading people. This the most rubbish and shameless marketing strategy.
- Anonymous
- Kg%
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Yes I'll informed and biased to the extreme. The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything o... moreI bet people like you didn't complain when the vivo released the xplay 3s having a 2k display phone. And Samsung then also moved to 2k to some of their products and everyone thinks that Samsung is the best.Nobody complained about it because Samsung(everyone's favorite except me) moved to 2k.Nobody thought its gimmick because Samsung moved to 2k. And now, Sony( world's most underrated company) released their 2nd flagship this year which is z5p with a 4k screen, and everyone who heard it thinks its a gimmick. Sony,you should have let Sammy took the name of the first company to release a 4k screen phone, so when you release one, nobody would think its only a gimmick.
- Lex79
- gL@
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Ill informed?
Duh, I see you came only to troll obviously...
What has note 5 over s6edge+ be... moreYes I'll informed and biased to the extreme.
The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything over the S6 Edge Plus, they were released at the same time. Like I said, I don't see the point of the Edge Plus.
The Note 5 however, offer's far more when compared to the Standard S6, than the Z5P offers over the Z5.
Being the best performing 810 device? aside from the fact that as far as I am aware, no one has as yet made that claim in an official review, that still places it firmly behind the Exynos 7420 competition (and the Apple A9). Best mutli-tasking???? what metrics are you basing that on??
Design is also another subjective issue, your opinion that it's better, is just that, your opinion, and it comes from you with as much bias as it would an official Sony sales rep.
As for 3d touch being gimmicky??, well we'll see what you have of say about that when Sony, like the rest of the Android world adopt it in their future devices. I remember Touch ID was also called a gimmick by Android (and Sony) Fans, now however they seem to have changed their tune.
I do agree with you though that the Edge on the S6 Edge series is a gimmicky as the 4k screen is on the Z5P.
And finally, though |I have explained this to you over and over, I am not bias against Sony, I am however critical of them, If you can't differentiate between the two, then it's pointless talking to you.
- AnonD-391800
- Bmu
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Am not a fan of the iPhone 'Plus' series, nor do I like the S6 Edge Plus, that device is as ir... moreIll informed?
Duh, I see you came only to troll obviously...
What has note 5 over s6edge+ besides a faulty designed spen?
Z5 prem is best performing sd810 device, fastest multitasker, and also second best graphic performing flag phablet after iphone6s+
Design is already waaay ahead over any iphone or any galaxy no matter z5 or z5 prem, with its solid build, water resistance, extra shutter button, non protruding camera unit, stereo speakers placement, and side placed fingerprint scanner.
4k on z5 prem is as gimmicky as force touch on iphone or edge part of the screen on samsung...you do not really need it, but its there for extra feature sake...
Please stop being obviously bias against anything Sony.
- AnonD-442605
- Kh2
Joe Philippines, 28 Dec 2015i'm so disappointed with the screen of Xperia Z5 Premium. .
what happen to you Sony? S6 Edge&... moreone of my colleague bought Samsung s6 edge + from Kuwait. problem came with overheating and battery charge draining, whenever he plays any games or even simple browsing he find his phone gets extreme hot and loses charges quickly.
- AnonD-100398
- g33
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015It is the nature of the Android business model that devices utilising it never retain value, d... more100% correct i.e they are offering the free headphone to lure & fool the customers ,btw the same is going on for the MS lumia 950XL .&.dont even talk abt LG G4 it is available for nearly half of its orignal price.
- Lex79
- LhP
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015As opposed to...for example more expensive iphone6+ or samsung galaxy s6+, being something ent... moreAm not a fan of the iPhone 'Plus' series, nor do I like the S6 Edge Plus, that device is as irrelevant as its name is silly.
However Samsung do offer the Note 5 which actually does offer real advantages befitting its size.
4K screen - Hugely redundant
Increased SOC performance??? The 810 lags behind other high end competing SOC's from 2015. The dozen or so extra points it scores in the Z5P over the Z5 doesn't even get close to making up that shortfall.
And a different back design.........right, yeah let's go with that 'innovation' shall we.
You are I see your usual woefully ill informed self. But at least you were honest, your comment was lame.
- AnonD-391800
- Bmu
Lex79, 28 Dec 2015I agree, aside from the gimmicky 4K screen, which the rest of the device's hardware is never g... moreAs opposed to...for example more expensive iphone6+ or samsung galaxy s6+, being something entirely different than just bigger iphone6 or samsung s6?!? Or note5 being s6+ with spen added?
At least Sony gives extra tech 4k resolution screen, better SoC performance and different back design for that extra price, whilst apple and samsung give... just that extra inches and nothing more for extra price.
Lame comment. Duh...
- Lex79
- LhP
AnonD-100398, 28 Dec 2015moreover the rear camera has f/ 2.0 and front camera is f/2.4 not like costly f/1.9 for both ... moreIt is the nature of the Android business model that devices utilising it never retain value, despite the specs.
Sony's mobile division, despite the fanatical following it enjoys (fanatical, but no where near large enough to be profitable it seems) is not exempt from this.
I just replied to another person mentioning a eBay advert that is on my screen showing the Z5P is falling right in line with expectations within the Android world.
I'll give the Sony faithful another example, in the uk the Z5 launched at 549.99, and the Compact at £449.99. The Z5 can now be bought brand new from Amazon for around £430 and the Compact is going for £379.99 and that includes a free set of Sony SBH60 Bluetooth headphones.
Whether these aggressive price reductions result in increased sales for Sony, is anyone's guess (Amazon appears not to be selling out of stock of either as a result) but the same pattern has been true with previous Xperia devices and it has not helped Sony's mobile division turn a profit.
- Lex79
- LhP
♧ Bravo &a, 28 Dec 2015SONY Xperia™ Z5 Premium is the best smartphone ever, It has a 4K display which is impossible ... moreYou think other manufacturers are incapable of making a mobile 4K display?????......very naive if you.
As for your immature 'haters gonna hate' line, you are obviously to dum to be able to participate in conversation, so instead resort to the childish 'they are all haters' nonsense. Oh and I use a 128gb iPhone 6S, so I could more than afford to buy a Z5P if I choose too.
In fact, to the left of my page is an eBay advert showing Z5P's selling for as low as £470 (with free shipping no less) proof that the device's value is falling constantly and in line with all other Android flagships, it was going for around the £600 mark just a few weeks ago!
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