funwithash, 09 May 2016Because buisiness don't run without profits and do you feel xiaomi or Lenovo or leeco don't wa... moreSo you are implying brands like Vivo, Oppo, Gionee are doing better justice to people by pricing their products 2x that of Xiaomi. Lenovo, LeEco.
RishiGuru, 09 May 2016Wouldn't it had been better if they stop pouring US $15 million in IPL advertisements and rath... moreBecause buisiness don't run without profits and do you feel xiaomi or Lenovo or leeco don't wanna be apple and samsung each company wants to be on top even apple and samsung also have huge marketing budget and further more offline handset sales are again rising around the globe google it you will get the facts sponsoring IPL is not bad creating lots of earning opportunities for daily wages workers after all economy should be widely dispersed not a toy of few hands
funwithash, 09 May 2016All it depends on volume sold by company if vivo became able to sell v3max in good numbers tha... moreWouldn't it had been better if they stop pouring US $15 million in IPL advertisements and rather made their phones available to us at half the price just like Xiaomi/ LeEco/ Lenovo does. That way they would have easly got the numbers and V3Max would have been instant hit in India with timely software updates.
I wonder is it Vivo/ Oppo / Gionee EGO that gets in their way of pricing their products so high.
All it depends on volume sold by company if vivo became able to sell v3max in good numbers than definitely there marketing team will ask for updates from company to get good faith of consumers as vivo has bet heavily on v3max sponsoring IPL to make there brand famous company has great expectations from v3max and as a owner I am feeling satisfied and I am saying this even after I was using note 3 however its my bypass handset as I am waiting for Nokia as something amazing is cooking in Nokia labs
XLR8R, 09 May 2016And they're very good for that! You have to realise these brands aren't really going after the... moreAll is good, except the prices are too high for Gionee/ Vivo/ Oppo phones. They don't have the R&D infrastructure or have the ability to provide timely software updates yet their prices are sky high.
Clash , 09 May 2016Well said. I do have to agree with your point. However, so far I'm happy with the performanc... moreAnd they're very good for that! You have to realise these brands aren't really going after the power user. These devices are designed for the "set-it, use it and forget it" crowd. Such consumers care less about OS versions and technicalities - they want good audio, good camera and a few basic apps like Instagram and Facebook with a VERY easy to use UI. And these devices from Gionee/Oppo/Vivo are doing very well to fill that need. They're durable enough to withstand an average user's day too, so what's really wrong? Most of my friends do not really obsess over OS upgrades anyway.
Jerry, 09 May 2016Hey I'm new to Android. What do u mean by this? Does this mean that these Chinese brands (op... moreIf these brands will in fact deliver any update, it will be VERY slow to reach the user. Oppo is planning to release Marshmallow to F1/R9 and the Find 9/Find 7 series. That's all, do not expect any updates for other series. Do not expect Android N at all. We have not yet heard of any Vivo phone ever getting updates. Some rare phones got Android KitKat from Jelly Bean, that's all.
It's similar with most other Chinese brands - Xiaomi updates the software but not the OS, for example, except with select few models. Same with TCL/Alcatel, Panasonic, Gionee, Micromax, etc.
OnePlus does deliver updates, but given that the brand was formed to cater to European markets, that makes sense. Lenovo also provides updates for some of its models. That's as far as you can put your trust in the Chinese brands for updates.
If you want brands that DO provide timely updates (even SECURITY updates, let alone android version upgrades), go for mid-rangers or high-end devices from LG, Samsung, Sony, Nexus Devices, Motorola and HTC's One series (not Desire).
XLR8R, 09 May 2016It's because these Chinese brands use contract developers to heavily skin/modify the Android O... moreHey I'm new to Android. What do u mean by this? Does this mean that these Chinese brands (oppo and vivo) will not get marshmallow update?? Tq.
XLR8R, 09 May 2016For the price Vivo V3Max retails for, I can think of a number of good smartphones that do bett... moreWell said. I do have to agree with your point. However, so far I'm happy with the performance of the Vivo V3 Max as it fits my everyday simplicity use (social networking, youtubing, light gaming and occasional group pictures). :)
RishiGuru, 03 May 2016I differ from your thoughts after using the latest from Xiaomi, LeEco & Lenovo. There used... moreThere is still a difference, not in the actual electronics but in the accessory parts - the exterior assembly, the quality of radios used etc. I have looked at Xiaomi and it feels like a value product. It doesn't feel BAD, mind you, but it sure doesn't give me the feel of a "properly built" product. There are other issues like the quality and type of joints used inside the assembly, etc. - mind you, none of this actually affects using the phone. You'd need to be an engineering nut and start smashing things with hammers to actually see this difference....so for the average guy, I doubt there is a serious difference in quality. Engineering-wise, however....
Clash, 09 May 2016To be frank, some of these Chinese brand are really stepping up the market. Not necessarily sa... moreFor the price Vivo V3Max retails for, I can think of a number of good smartphones that do better with both OS, RAM management and Camera. Hi-Fi audio isn't really such a big deal as people think....in fact 24-bit/96 kHz is standard on a number of SoCs out-of-the-box already (the separate chips and amps are to increase isolation and reduce noise....nothing a good engineer cannot bypass anyway).
There's the Galaxy A8, Xperia C5/M4/M5, LG G4, G Flex2, a number of HTCs starting from Desire 828 to the One ME, Asus ZenFone2, Moto X series etc. each of them delivers a better experience than what Vivo does. That being said, Oppo and Vivo have VERY good products in sub-20K range (Oppo F1/R9 is pretty good, Vivo X3 Max also comes to mind).
But if I think Chinese, I only think of Gionee.
gaurav bigg, 09 May 2016Its not about iphone monopoly it's all about the performance and all knows that smartphone sta... moreTBH iPhone and Nexus are for those who don't want to bother much, set it and enjoy it type products. I do not agree that "iPhone 8 MP beats 21 and 23 MP of these brands". It is very subjective, because I've seen HTC, LG and Sony phones do better than Apple camera-wise. The chinese brands, well, some of them do really well (Gionee comes to mind), some do really badly, but its not because of the hardware, it's poor software coding (especially image processing and JPEG engine). I still wouldn't buy any Chinese brand over a known one, because you do get what you pay for....but it's up to the consumer, really.
RishiGuru, 08 May 2016Pathetic isn't it. Well if you want a Vivo be prepared to get stuck forever with the Android v... moreIt's because these Chinese brands use contract developers to heavily skin/modify the Android OS and rebrand it as ColorOS/EmotionUI/whatever....and then, it takes money and time to make these changes for a new version of Android. Moreover, it's easier to deliver one version of Android as no R&D team needs to be maintained and no developers need to be put on the payroll (especially for modules like camera drivers etc.) - how do you think these companies are selling phones so cheap?
gaurav bigg, 09 May 2016Its not about iphone monopoly it's all about the performance and all knows that smartphone sta... moreYou are comparing midranger to flagship phones what to do is it ok 23k phone vs 53k phone one more thing mid range mobile market is becoming revenue grosser than flagship ones what ever your previous experience with these brands but go and have hands on experience with vivo v3 max you will find it awesome for the asking price
funwithash, 09 May 2016Go and worship iPhone but sorry great word is not monopoly of iPhone at least after launching... moreIts not about iphone monopoly it's all about the performance and all knows that smartphone starts with the iPhone.Iphone 8 mp can easily beat so called 21 & 23 mp cam of these Chinese brands, in performance IOS is way ahed then any other OS, And Vivo,Xiaomi ,Oppo & One plus fails to perform in actual world of performance there are so many problems in all these smartphones .You know all these smartphones having high SAR value.Android is a good operating system but these Chinese brands just spoiling Android with their bad (ROM) UI over it.Look at the Nexus phone,Samsung Note Series,HTC 10,LG G5,Sony Experia Z series and Moto Devices these all are very good Android smartphone which performance brilliantly in the actual world of performance.
gaurav bigg, 09 May 2016What about the performance after 6 to 7 months my friend all these cheap brands smartphones co... moreGo and worship iPhone but sorry great word is not monopoly of iPhone at least after launching iPhone 5se it seems apple is losing path vivo /oppo are not crap rest is upto you buy whatever you want