funwithash, 09 May 2016Optimization with hardware smooth interface flawless performance requires testing and r&d ... moreWhat makes you think that Oppo and Vivo (and Gionee) aren't just doing the same? A lot of these manufacturers are just getting their phones built from off-the-shelf parts in ODM factories. Now, Xiaomi (for example) may not offer the OS upgrades, they may have an ODM product, but Vivo and Oppo are not known for OS upgrades either. So, the bigger question is - when the hardware is the same, and the situation with updates is the same, why are these brands costing more than Xiaomi/LeEco/Lenovo?
RishiGuru, 09 May 2016Why the heck should we (end consumers) care about some smartphone company which is able to cou... moreVivo is my bypass handset I am waiting for Nokia phones as something amazing is cooking in Nokia labs and I mentioned this in my previous comment however you left to shed light on cost hikes due to r &d testing of handset for several months and what do you feel all companies say top 5 manufacturers apple samsung Huawei oppo vivo want to kill there buisinesss and they launch their products without market research
funwithash, 09 May 2016Optimization with hardware smooth interface flawless performance requires testing and r&d ... moreWhy the heck should we (end consumers) care about some smartphone company which is able to coup up some discounted deals with some component manufacturers? What is the benefit for us in that?
You sound more like a Vivo representative who is busy justifying the sky high price of their phones rather than an end consumer concerned about how much he/ she is paying for the product.
What we all end consumers care about is the price at which we are having the phone. The build quality of the phone and its user experience. And on those account Lenovo/ Xiaomi/ LeEco is doing a stunning job. My Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 has more or less equivalent specs of Vivo V3Max at half the price. I have used a lot of Vivo phones and I personally find Redmi Note 3 product quality and in-hand feel to be very good. Also the MIUI on Redmi Note 3 provides decent user experience just as good as Funtouch OS of Vivo.
So what is your point?
RishiGuru, 09 May 2016What do we know about? What do we have to accept? Please be clear as none of your posts are ma... moreOptimization with hardware smooth interface flawless performance requires testing and r&d for several months which increases cost that's why moto X play is priced similarly as vibe x3 as leeco/xiaomi purchase department is in continuous search of discounted deals with component manufacturers as soon they finalize deal they assemble mobile and throw in the market without having much focus on user experience
funwithash, 09 May 2016You know but don't want to accept What do we know about? What do we have to accept? Please be clear as none of your posts are making any sense.
RishiGuru, 09 May 2016We don't know. Please tell us why?You know but don't want to accept
funwithash, 09 May 2016Why moto X play and vibe x3 cost similar? We don't know. Please tell us why?
RishiGuru, 09 May 2016How do you know that? Why moto X play and vibe x3 cost similar?
funwithash, 09 May 2016They are not providing cheap innards in their phone How do you know that?
funwithash, 09 May 2016Because buisiness don't run without profits and do you feel xiaomi or Lenovo or leeco don't wa... moreSo you are implying brands like Vivo, Oppo, Gionee are doing better justice to people by pricing their products 2x that of Xiaomi. Lenovo, LeEco.
RishiGuru, 09 May 2016Wouldn't it had been better if they stop pouring US $15 million in IPL advertisements and rath... moreBecause buisiness don't run without profits and do you feel xiaomi or Lenovo or leeco don't wanna be apple and samsung each company wants to be on top even apple and samsung also have huge marketing budget and further more offline handset sales are again rising around the globe google it you will get the facts sponsoring IPL is not bad creating lots of earning opportunities for daily wages workers after all economy should be widely dispersed not a toy of few hands
funwithash, 09 May 2016All it depends on volume sold by company if vivo became able to sell v3max in good numbers tha... moreWouldn't it had been better if they stop pouring US $15 million in IPL advertisements and rather made their phones available to us at half the price just like Xiaomi/ LeEco/ Lenovo does. That way they would have easly got the numbers and V3Max would have been instant hit in India with timely software updates.
I wonder is it Vivo/ Oppo / Gionee EGO that gets in their way of pricing their products so high.
All it depends on volume sold by company if vivo became able to sell v3max in good numbers than definitely there marketing team will ask for updates from company to get good faith of consumers as vivo has bet heavily on v3max sponsoring IPL to make there brand famous company has great expectations from v3max and as a owner I am feeling satisfied and I am saying this even after I was using note 3 however its my bypass handset as I am waiting for Nokia as something amazing is cooking in Nokia labs
XLR8R, 09 May 2016And they're very good for that! You have to realise these brands aren't really going after the... moreAll is good, except the prices are too high for Gionee/ Vivo/ Oppo phones. They don't have the R&D infrastructure or have the ability to provide timely software updates yet their prices are sky high.
Clash , 09 May 2016Well said. I do have to agree with your point. However, so far I'm happy with the performanc... moreAnd they're very good for that! You have to realise these brands aren't really going after the power user. These devices are designed for the "set-it, use it and forget it" crowd. Such consumers care less about OS versions and technicalities - they want good audio, good camera and a few basic apps like Instagram and Facebook with a VERY easy to use UI. And these devices from Gionee/Oppo/Vivo are doing very well to fill that need. They're durable enough to withstand an average user's day too, so what's really wrong? Most of my friends do not really obsess over OS upgrades anyway.
Jerry, 09 May 2016Hey I'm new to Android. What do u mean by this? Does this mean that these Chinese brands (op... moreIf these brands will in fact deliver any update, it will be VERY slow to reach the user. Oppo is planning to release Marshmallow to F1/R9 and the Find 9/Find 7 series. That's all, do not expect any updates for other series. Do not expect Android N at all. We have not yet heard of any Vivo phone ever getting updates. Some rare phones got Android KitKat from Jelly Bean, that's all.
It's similar with most other Chinese brands - Xiaomi updates the software but not the OS, for example, except with select few models. Same with TCL/Alcatel, Panasonic, Gionee, Micromax, etc.
OnePlus does deliver updates, but given that the brand was formed to cater to European markets, that makes sense. Lenovo also provides updates for some of its models. That's as far as you can put your trust in the Chinese brands for updates.
If you want brands that DO provide timely updates (even SECURITY updates, let alone android version upgrades), go for mid-rangers or high-end devices from LG, Samsung, Sony, Nexus Devices, Motorola and HTC's One series (not Desire).