Nissan, 28 May 2018You are correct Rishi. No longer mobile handset manufacturers are equipping their models with ... moreVivo X5Max is still a benchmark when it comes to high fidelity sound in smartphones. This phone single handedly compelled me to leave and sell all my prized HiFi portable music players. It can easily drive any audiophile grade earphones and all low impedance over the head headphones like Creative Aurvana Live 2 or Edifier H840.
Lenovo Vibe X3 have same DAC as X5Max but much powerful headphone amplifier section, as many as 2. So it is capable to drive very high impedance headphones of over 300 ohms.
To have a more clear picture below are the audio paths:
Vivo X5Max (HiFi Mode): Snapdragon 615 --> ESS Sabre ES9018K2M (DAC) --> ESS Sabre ES9601 (I/V conversion) --> TI OPA1612 (Headphone amplifier) --> 3.5mm audio jack
Lenovo Vibe X3 (Turbo HiFi Mode): Snapdragon 808 --> ESS Sabre 9018C2M (DAC) --> TI OPA1612 (I/V conversion) --> 2 X (TI OPA1612) (Headphone amplifier) --> 3.5mm audio jack
Lenovo Vibe X3 (HiFi Mode): Snapdragon 808 --> Cirrus Logic WM8281 (Integrated DAC + Headphone amplifier) --> 3.5mm audio jack
Soomal happens to be one of the most revered & reputed Chinese tech website and I follow them avidly. It is from there only I came to know about X5Max, and when it arrived in India I bought it immedately. When it comes to Vivo XPlay 5 Elite, I can safely say it is the most extreme audio implementation on any smartphone till date. And yes it is the best smartphone money can buy when audio quality over headphones is your utmost priority. As XPlay 5 Elite phone is not available in India, I once thought to import an unit from China but later retreated as the hassles we have in customs + tax. Also no Google play store and no updates in Chinese mobiles.
Unfortunately Vivo current flagship in India, the X21UD marketed as X21 also comes with the same mundane audio chip like V5Plus. Hence don't expect any bump in audio quality over headphones.
You are correct Rishi. No longer mobile handset manufacturers are equipping their models with powerful dac like expensive ESS Sabre and using amplifier such as TI. Few lucky guys own Vibe X3 or X5Max which are things of the past. As you said even Vivo changed it's tagline from Smart & Hi-Fi to Camera & Music indicating HiFi is no longer it's priorities. Certainly that is a disappointing thing. LG also started using mediocre audio solutions in it's V and G series. Lenovo these days are not interested in producing audio centric sets.
I was browsing Chinese website Soomal which profusely admires another set of Vivo. It is a two-year old X Play 5 Elite which is equipped with same treo of ESS DAC, ESS IV Conv. & TI and puts the 6/128 GB set ahead of X5 Max. The model was however not released in India.
Earlier, BBK China had its focus clear defined OnePlus for performance, Oppo for camera and Vivo for hifi audio. They have completely messed up now.
While saying this I must pass an order that there is a large market in vacuum available for a smart phone maker available to rule, if properly configured premiun hardware is served along.
Anonymous, 25 May 2018I got new update of 310mb of sizeI also received the same. OTA build version 3.6.0 of 310 MB size. The OTA change log describes:
1) Updated management mechanism to make the software run more smoother and be more stable.
2) Updated user interface for better user experience.
3) Latest android security path for more security
4) Better game compatibility.
After the update:
1) The user experience is as smooth & lag free as before.
2) File Manager icons have changed, same features may be added here.
3) Latest May, 2018 android security patch.
Please inform if any of you find a new feature after the update.
AnonD-614611, 23 May 2018I ordered one V5 plus from Vivo India shop online for INR 14,990/-. The price was for 2 days o... moreYeh, I noticed the offer on Vivo official online store. They seem to be clearing V5 series stock from their inventory & offering some serious discounts!!!
I have a Vivo V3Max and comparing it with V5Plus I will call the later a far superior smartphone any given day. This is based on my personal experience with both the phones. Since I got hold of their flagship Vivo X5Max back in 2015, none of their subsequent flagships could impress me in terms of built quality & in-hand feel. I had their X5Pro, V1Max and I sold both of them. Then I got hold of V3Max, a well built phone with promising specs but missing that flagship grade feel.
With V5Plus, better known as X9 in China I am truly heading towards a flagship grade product from Vivo and I confirm V5Plus exudes the same in-hand feel & built quality of X5Max.
I opted for Vivo V5Plus over Xiaomi Mi A1 back in Oct, 2017, due to its excellent software & hardware optimization, great network reception, fast charging, great battery life, very compact size and excellent built quality which comes with every X series phone. And I must admit, I am very happy so far with my V5Plus. As much as my beloved Vivo X5Max.
My friend owns a Xiaomi Mi A1, and the handset has a lot of network issues and frequently looses network connection in the same place I work. My V5Plus on the contrary have excellent signal strength at the same place. Also the voice calls a very loud and clear & so is the speaker.
The main advantage of V5Plus over V3Max is in use of Snapdragon 625 SoC. Though slightly less powerful than Snapdragon 652 found on V3Max, 625 is built on very power efficient 14nm manufacturing process rather than 28nm of 652. Hence 625 cores does not throttle due to heat and saves a lot of battery due to sheer efficiency. The Vivo Funtouch OS experience have improved a lot in V5Plus providing very smooth experience with zero lag. With an even more bigger battery than V3Max, my V5Plus lasts twice as much as V3Max on a single charge. V3Max still runs on older Android Lollipop while V5Plus is on newer Nougat release, so the software experience is much better on V5Plus.
Regarding the dedicated AKM DACs found on current Vivo models, I will say they are passable in terms of a sound quality on audiophile ears. Be it AK4375 or AK4376 all are same and produce warm sound signature with good detailing. Make no mistake they are still superior to the integrated solutions found on other non dedicated DAC phones in terms of layering, instrument separation etc. For serious listening I always revert back to by trusty Vivo X5Max as its mighty ESS Sabre ESS 9018 DAC with Texas Instruments headphone amplifier is simply on another level, I mean the audiophile level sound quality. My Lenovo Vibe X3 also uses the same DAC as found in X5Max and is equivalently good.
You have made a very wise decision with Vivo V5Plus and it is excellent choice at INR 15K bracket. Enjoy!!!
Redmi are releasing new MiUi updates with new Android os for many phones in recent days.what is Vivo doing their i don,'t know ? Where v5 plus strucked at old Funtouch os(with exempting many features,gestures compared to older phones),older Os it seems,which are important to us.
When is the release date of android oreo update for our vivo v5 plus? Thank you.
I ordered one V5 plus from Vivo India shop online for INR 14,990/-. The price was for 2 days only and now increased to INR 19,990/-. The phone is quite similar to V3 Max but superior to the subsequent line up like V7, V9 etc. The set is fast and has equipped with good hardware. Funtouch is also smoother. Immediately, I got one update little over 1GB. Somewhere I felt the OS is little old. I work in a multistory building and many handsets disappoint in receiving network signals. V5+ is better in getting signals of all operators. did not notice any qualitative improvement in AKM4376 HiFi DAC over AKM4375, both are 32bit chips. Display is vibrant. metallic body and a good battery of course. Missing USB Type-C & FM Radio (The inlay card mentions FM yes, how ?) In all it is a better deal than Mi Note5 pro.
Anonymous, 14 May 2018What we do with update if fun touch remain sameIf Os is updated,from their we can get support of some particular apps from play store and even more optimistic Oreo Os can also increase battery life as well to some extent.
Anonymous, 03 May 2018Rishi did you bought v9,howz it ?does it work fine or u left with v5 plus ?I never buy Vivo phones that belong to their cheap budget oriented all plastic Y series lineup. The Vivo V9, V7+, V7 belongs to their Y series. For example V7+ is Y79 in China.
I always go for their higher end flagship grade X series lineup from China. That's the reason why I got the V5Plus which is indeed X9 in China.
The product quality of V5Plus is just superior to V9. As of now I will rather opt for Oppo F7 than the sub-par V9.
Rishi did you bought v9,howz it ?does it work fine or u left with v5 plus ?
RishiGuru, 03 Apr 2018In recent 3.5.2 OTA update for Vivo V5 Plus, there are no new features added in Funtouch OS. ... moreI am observing significantly improved battery life in my Vivo V5 Plus after recent 3.5.2 OTA software update. On a single charge the phone lasts for 2 days under moderate usage and almost 1.5 days under heavy usage.
Keep up the good work Vivo & bring to us the Oreo update which already is available in China for V5Plus/ X9.
SONU KKC, 15 Apr 2018In china vivo X9 is get oreo update funtouch os as a same in india vivo v5 plus update oreo.wi... moreIt would be simply great to have Android Oreo for Vivo V5Plus aka Vivo X9. We can only hope Vivo India gives us the Oreo update. Fingers crossed.
In china vivo X9 is get oreo update funtouch os as a same in india vivo v5 plus update oreo.with funtouch os 4.0