Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970No i'm afraid i've overlooked the other 98 pages of posts.
The point I was trying to make is that i'm just a 'normal average user' who wants my phone to work. I don't feel I should have to scour the net for 3rd party bobbies to make the phone work to a normal standard.
I don't expect it to make my breakfast, I just want it to answer calls and send texts, but it cant do either of these very well. One thing I also dont get is why does it change certain words when you add a question mark or exclamation in predictive. Another sooo frustrating thing about this phone.
Anyway, rant over, the LG beast will be in hand today. I just feel that people need to know first hand what its like to own one of these phones as many of the reviews on here are from people who have either a) only seen this phone or used it once OR b)clever guys like you who have made the slow software a little bit faster.
Do bear in mind that average joe probably doesnt even know what firmware means.
jjsoviet, 22 Nov 2008Well, do all people want or know that their phones can multitask? No. Multitasking may open mo... moreUhmm no, actualy my N81 doesnt realy slow down when multitasking. It has On-Demand Paging which controls the Power useage of apps, CPU clockspeed, power consumption and speed of the device in general to insure a good user experience its a shame MOTO havent put it on their phones.
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2008Also, in response to this. Why should you have to install 3rd party programming to make your p... moreDude, just in case you didnt get it, 3rd party software is used only when you want to squeeze that extra bit out of your phone platform. While most of the users can live happily with factory settings, its only some power users who needs that extra tweaking. We hope you've gone thru older posts, coz we dont feel like explaining the same things to every other noob :P
jjsoviet, 22 Nov 2008I flashed a Bestwebs monsterpack and it worked great. The menus are snappier and the perfomran... moreAlso, in response to this. Why should you have to install 3rd party programming to make your phone work properly. It should work as soon as it comes out of the factory, not after you have searched the web for some knocked up code to replace the orignal UI with! I love the look of this phone, but everything just falls below standards. It's 2008 not 1999. Come Moto, up to speed please.
Maniac, 21 Nov 2008@anonymus last poster: before you go get yourself an LG (if you want to change your Motorola, ... moreHi, its me again. They guy who is going to buy an LG to replace my E8!! I have looked at the mm.us site, but to be honest i'm past caring about using the phone. I have a buyer on Ebay and a deal has been done.
I must say to the person who made a comment about this handset and its multi-tasking. This phone CANNOT vibrate and ring at the same time. I thini this is a crucial feature of any phone. If you set it to vibrate then ring it takes about 3 seconds to answer the call after you press accept. I know this doesnt sound like a long time but when your phone rings and the caller hears 3 seconds of silence they normally just hang up. Any phone should be able to answer straight away and vibrate and ring at the same time.
The vibe and ring features is one i've missed. I hate having to switch it to vibe when i'm out of the house and may not hear it, and ring when i'm in the house and the phone is on the side somewhere. It's a pain in the bloody arse.
coreSOLO, 21 Nov 2008mmus users have reported a noticable speed gain after reflash. also added support for new them... moreI flashed a Bestwebs monsterpack and it worked great. The menus are snappier and the perfomrance of the music player has gotten faster. Lags are not noticeable anymore as the skin was made simpler.
In short, the developers simplified the coding of the skin (Onyx) and reduced its filesize for the phone to be faster. Previous versions of the Onyx have intricate codes which made the E8 initially slower than normal.
Anonymous, 21 Nov 2008Lol @ Geeky phones.
By the way i see the E8 cant multitask (run multiple 3rd party apps at on... moreWell, do all people want or know that their phones can multitask? No. Multitasking may open more applications at the same time, but it would slow the phone down no matter how powerful the processor it has.
Why keep picking on the E8? Why not other ones that can have comparable features? Try the Z10, ZN5, Q9, etc. The E8 is only a music phone. Your N81 can easily bully us because of all those snazzy and unwanted features.
jjsoviet, 21 Nov 2008Indeed. Motorola has done some stuff wrong but that doesn't stop us from loving their top-qual... moremmus users have reported a noticable speed gain after reflash. also added support for new themes and updated menus.
aka v0xp haha we're so mean.. e8lovers! nokia n81 forever looser!
Look the code at down after post and in the middle. Nokia Fanboy "M@T2".
About Copy Cat. Look Nokia N96 Bruce Lee copy cat from Motorola E6 Jay Chow Edition. Nokia N76 want copy cat Motorola V3 Razr but not success like Motorola V3 Razr can sold 100 million units for single type. :D :D
jjsoviet, 21 Nov 2008Indeed. Motorola has done some stuff wrong but that doesn't stop us from loving their top-qual... moreIndeed. "mmus.us" is Motorola friendly forum include the admin and moderators. Also "m o t o r o l a z i n e . b i z" for Motorola News. Don't go to "modmymoto.com"; Motorola un-friendly forum specially the admin.
e8lover, 21 Nov 2008yes... we all know that motorola drops UIQ (8.1%) there current for 3Q 2008... but as a moto l... morehi there.yeah real motorola rokr e8 fans and lovers of this phone never looses hope!oh i won't agree anyone give that n81 to explain what kind of phone is that n81 is!now this what i can say about the nokia phones they keep imitating the super-cutie-motorola.phones why?? maybe they are,...so, scared that no ones gonna buy their phones...besides???motorola phones are really the social phones while nokia are not..cos they are the euww_phones,why???because of coying motorola phones faces!give it super total high shot... ahaha, its just so funny that nokia made the nseries maybe just to win against the motorola to improve the quality of nokia!how cheap,how poor,how corny nokia phones are the copycat phones!!haha ..ahaha,its just so funny to laugh at the poor nokia phones they made nseries! n-none s-sense e-elite r-reputated'phones i- improved'(only) e-elegantless s-stupid!oh meaning of nseries are really an ouchy-hurty feelings for the nokia fans,and nokia n81 fans!ahaha! cheers for e8 rokr! r-rebelous phone o- over cutie phone k- kind of uniqueness r-rewady phone the motorola e8, so,?good bye, nokia... hellomoto! as we all know that hellomoto that's why motorola got that calling_name because?they are the great phones,that everbody surely loves them!,,unlike nokia a big big good bye for them as motorola survives.remember:motorola.are.the.phone.that.can.ever.stean.an.attention of.eveyone. because if motorola was not? then why many voted rokr e8??haha..so,poor nlia n81 forever-a-cheapipay-phone nokia is a phone that's a really can be treated like a mess specially the stupid n81..haha i'l really brag against n81 and other nokia phones''',,,oh nokia-lovers morely n81-lovers->you think you can be so too lovable like e8?/oh,never... every nokia got clone while motorola phones don't they are the super original phones cheers to the motorola ..specially to the motorola rokr e8 and motorola razr2 v8....im very very proud of e8 for beina an award-winner phone,while nokia will surely loose hope ...for beina a-none-award-winner-copycat phone hahaha,....ahahahaha...haha.nokia-phones cheap than ever,surely?nokia forever a copycat phone!oh..nokia will surely loose,..oh nokia will surely loose
Lol @ Geeky phones.
By the way i see the E8 cant multitask (run multiple 3rd party apps at once) whats up with that?
For a device with 500MHz it SHOULD be able to multitask and run highquality videos but instead its waisting all that power, great example of bad software implementation, sorry JJ but i'd be mad if i knew my device was not running at its full potential due to poor implementation by its manufacturer.
Good luck with that, if i want something stylish to make me look serious in my suit i'd get a NOKIA E71 which is made out of metal allroun, a HTC TouchDiamond or a BlackBerry Bold, all 3 are well priced, all 3 are stylish, serious, business orientated, run powerful OSs, can multitask, and are for power users at the same time, NONE of those 3 are "geeky" sorry but both E8 and N81 are CLEARLY for the young 16-24 and by pulling out a MOTO you will simply be showing that you're life hasn't exactly turned out the way you were hopping it would, and now you're forced to get a MOTO, as well as being stuck in the past.
Maniac, 21 Nov 2008@anonymus last poster: before you go get yourself an LG (if you want to change your Motorola, ... moreIndeed. Motorola has done some stuff wrong but that doesn't stop us from loving their top-quality phones. We care about the consumer experience; we should not be daunted by all those reviews and ratings which can possibly hinder other consumer's decisions in making the right choice.
Motomodding.us is very proficient and friendly in helping their Motorola users modify their software. The current best ones for the E8 are Bestwebs' software and martin_cz's firmware.
@anonymus last poster: before you go get yourself an LG (if you want to change your Motorola, change it for another good phone brand: Nokia, not LG :P just kidding ), try the following:
Use google and search "motomodding.us". Click on the first link the search engine returns (it should be something like "mmus.us") and you'll get to a forum where people will help you gladly with your E8 problems :) you can find there better and faster Software for your phone.
jjsoviet, 20 Nov 2008Yes, the stock Motorola software in the E8 is indeed lag-tastic. But what's keeping me from re... moreI have had my E8 software checked. I have also tried upgrading it via motorolas website, but alas, no luck.
I'm going to buy an LG tomorrow and put this E8 on Ebay!!
I work in a mobile gaming studio. We got this set way back as a proto and I have a long working experience with it (cant buy it though, but willing to, lack of money lol). I want to highlight 2 things from my perspective
1. I still remember the WOW factor it carried in our studio, with every other person wanted to get his/her hands on E8 and it still is a charm in new joinees lol
2. We have a rough time handling the sets and have got a bad history of screwing up nice sets, (ppl using ball pens as stylus :P) and broken keys here and there. Initially i thought E8 will not be able to stand tall against, but the build quality of this set is awesome. All the heptic keys are working fine and front panel has acceptable scratches. That includes super rough handling and daily game testing on this set...
E8 might not include frills from some higher end sets, but its a music set and what it does, it does with a punch :)
P.P.S:(and totally OFF-Topic)
I think everybody wishes they could send a phone to their loved ones up in the big blue sky, only to be able to text them an "I miss you!" now and then!
Again, this N81 vs E8 is pointless: different price tags, different specs and different consumers!
If you want to comapare the E8 with a Nokia, do it with the XM 5310.
In daily cellphone usage, 500Mhz or 312Mhz doens't matter that much if the Software(firmware/OS) the phone is using is tuned to the CPU and it's needs. And unfortunately, here is where the flaw of the E8 lies: it's badly optimized software. Of what user reports I've managed to gather in my search for a new phone, I've come to this conclusion that the carrier branded E8's are rubbish because of the software.
And most users aren't tech-saavy like some of us, so the whole idea of changing the software of the phone is somewhat daunting(and that's too bad, because on the *modding*(am I allowed to say that?) forums for Moto you can find nice people who are interested to help).
I can say that Moto is doing wrong nowdays is:
1) Bad marketing and badly targeted phones!
2) They are to slow to bring new offerings to the market!
3) They are destroying great hardware (the Moto hardware is top knotch, no matter what you will say...) with buggy, laggy, bad software(big part in this is played by the carrier branding).
On the N81 vs E8 thing: the biggest reason why I wouldn't buy the N81 (even above the fact that I don't need most of it's features) is that, while being dressed in a decent suit, and meeting some fancy people, you'll leave a much better impression if you pull out a sleek classy slab of dark UFO phone they can't quite pinpoint what it is than if you pull out a black brick of Nokia plastic. The Moto shows you have tastes in fashion and you are interested in how you are percieved, the Nokia shows that you like gadgets and geeky phones (hope nobody gets mad at me for this, I like geeky phones as well and the E8 has it's geekiness!)
About the bar phones for mum and dad: they aren't very tech-saavy and they need phones that can rough it out through the day. A clamshell, even if it's prettier and somewhat easier to use, also relies on a hinge to flip open/closed, and that is it's week spot.
About the lil'ones :P I don't want to look down on you, but writing a "OMG! E8 is so cool" message isn't of great help to people! It's better to describe your experience with the phone: how you handle it, how it takes the rough treatement (I'll asume that people in the 11-16 age bracket are less careful with their stuff...I for one was back in the day), what are your gripes with it (I for one find it rather wide, and I have decently large hands - not the biggest n'or the slimmest). Oh, and 1337 speach doesn't help either :P . Some can understand it, many can't!
PS: Sorry for the ExtraLong comments :)
Keep ROKR-ing with your E8's and be chillaxed with whatever phone you are using!