Like I said in the original poll/article, living in the US doesn't give us much options at that range. Sure, Ulefone and Umidigi have phones in that range that work here but those phones are always missing...something.
The Armor 3W was so close. Just needs a headphone jack, 128GB of space, P90 at least or Dimmensity 820, 6.2" display, and Wireless/reverse wireless charging.
Really wish more of the Realme, Redmi, and Mi Note phones would work out here...
Anonymous, 31 May 2020What? These ones have the same dimensions:
https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_se_(2020)-... moreAnd add expandable storage, headphone jack, IP68... All that the bigger display, bigger battery, more cameras, FM Radio in USA, USB 3.1 Vs 2.0 compatible...
Obviously one is an outdated design not optimized with today components and the other one a nice phone with a good design and all space profited. And the funniest thing is that both cost the same in Europe. I choose the S10e any day if I want a phone of that size. With luck more will be released although it'll depend of the sales and demand.
Apple is another history because they don't have affordable alternatives and must do for refurbished or old phones or designs. For buy something like the SE 2020 I for sure jump to the Android alternatives.
Essen, 31 May 2020I am no fan of Apple, but I wish Android had an SE 2020 equivalent. For me, 4.7 inches, 16:9 i... moreWhat? These ones have the same dimensions:
Night and day at the same size. The button are in the screen so the functionality don't change, you have a larger display, more cameras, better profited space, bigger battery...
Are you trying to sell us an outdated phone? And sure that the S10e will not be the last one in Android. In the future even with under display cameras at that size and good specifications. Not a phone from the stone age at the price of a new modern one.
I am no fan of Apple, but I wish Android had an SE 2020 equivalent. For me, 4.7 inches, 16:9 is perfect. I have spent three years with a 4.5-inch phone and another 3 years with a 5-inch phone (at present). In fact, I find the 5-inch phone a tad larger than I like. But considering, the other options, I'd hold on my 5er with my life. This is not about having small or large hands. It's about comfort, ergonomics, one-handed usability, ability to fit comfortably in a pocket and that biggest point that makes a mobile phone, mobile -- mobility. And if there's an Android (preferably non-stock) phone with a 4.7-inch 16:9 screen and thick bezels with an FPS and navigation buttons on those bezels, I will gladly pay upto $800 to buy it. Ultimately, the size of the phone shouldn't matter as much as the size of the operable area. It'd make no difference to me if a phone has a 4.7 inch screen with no bezels or a 4.7 inch screen with thick bezels. What matters is my thumb should comfortably hit all four corners of the screen while my palm is comfortably -- note comfortably -- wrapped around the rest of the phone.
For this price , better go with last year flagships like p30 pro or s10+ in my opinion
why you need to mention the Iphone SE? beside the cpu, all the hardware is outdated.. look at the screen, battery. camera, etc
I wonder if people haven't read whatever the reviews about how bad & how great whatever the phones are & especially the performance....they would still buy whatever they actually liked without being influenced...it's like a war I swear, a typical human thing ? Just buy whatever you actually want
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Xiaomi goes so far to track all usage habits, they even monitor what apps you use, what music ... moreWhen you accept the terms of Apple and Google you are also agree to share them. If you don't accept then their services simply don't work in your phone. So for what you want their ecosystem if you don't want to share your data? Xiaomi phones, at least global ones, ask you before each of their own app use. If you choose NO! Then only works in a limited way but never send nothing. Today you even have to agree to send your location for the day weather widget or app.
I already have tested it in both system iOS and Android. Once you start to cut access permissions to their applications, they start to not work or with limited features, also with background services, you immediately discover it. Why you believe that a lot of their services are in background without your knowledge after accept the initial long history agreement that they know well almost nobody read? Apple also do that but try to hide it a lot more profiting that their system is propietary and locked to the customers.
At least, in Android you can deny them in the initial setup with separate agreements for every app and not merge all together in one like other OS. And then if needed, root and block whatever thing you want. Obviously with rootable and unlockable phones. Which are a lot in Android and new ones every year. Not like others that have all locked so you can't watch what they share and spy from you. Apple want that you believe in their words like in the iBible.
In Android you can discover things. Apple lock all and prefer blind customers.
LilPhone, 31 May 2020$400-$600 range. In this price range the most popular phone is the Samsung A50/A50s/A51. He... moreThat's why you should look for last year's flagship instead. Soon you'll be able to get S10 on sale for close to $400.
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Xiaomi goes so far to track all usage habits, they even monitor what apps you use, what music ... moreSo does Google Play services which has permession to everything and pretty much spying on you.
Ever heard of ppl debloatimg their ROM of Google Analytics? On Xda?
Or for that matter different apps you install which have tons of ads (more ads than any system wide apps) and analytics which can't be disabled unless you use a modded version of the app.
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Xiaomi goes so far to track all usage habits, they even monitor what apps you use, what music ... moreAnd a product that is too expensive for what it offers what it is called then? Take your pick from all the smartphones in 2020, they are plenty of examples.
Also, I don't understand why you say Xiaomi is using our own data, probably illegally. Did you have a Xiaomi phone and have any similar problems? Did you have compromising data stolen from you or something? Or are you just copy paste some misleading information from internet?
All you people complain about security issues like you are some important person in the World, but have 3 games and 2 apps on your phones. Nobody cares, trust me.
I see people moving beyond SoC specs....if it is around $300-$400 they don’t mind bigger screen reasonable SoC, RAM, good display with latest OS!
In the Android world no one gives a crap about software upgrades since Android pretty much runs without any support for very very long. Only thing is you can’t resell later with obsolete software which they don’t mind for a $400 device!!! $400 android devices will run without major software issues for minimum three years! You don’t need to buy 4.7 LCD to prove that you are iPhone buff
Anonymous, 31 May 2020No ads on flagships, only on budget models.
Get your facts right pal
And the browser sendi... moreXiaomi goes so far to track all usage habits, they even monitor what apps you use, what music you listen to...
If you are comfortable having this data in China, get a xiaomi. But remember: When a product is too cheap for what it offers, then you are the product.
LilPhone, 31 May 2020More for less with aggresive ads in certain countries and a browser that sells data to Xiaomi'... moreNo ads on flagships, only on budget models.
Get your facts right pal
And the browser sending data was only limited Mi browser. Just use another browser.
Google Chrome with all the Google Play services integration is far worse for your privacy.
LilPhone, 31 May 2020$400-$600 range.
In this price range the most popular phone is the Samsung A50/A50s/A51. He... moreYes another example how the most popular phone in a segment isn't necessarily the best phone in that segment.
Mi note 10 has good camera but let down by SD7xx chip.
Better to buy last year's flagships from Xiaomi, OnePlus, Realme, etc.
LilPhone, 31 May 2020$400-$600 range. In this price range the most popular phone is the Samsung A50/A50s/A51. He... moreA50 is sub 300$ these days, it is fast enough for the average users, so they don't care much. Multimedia consumers are fascinated by the sAMOLED and doesn't care much about performance.
In this price range the most popular phone is the Samsung A50/A50s/A51. Heck, this phone is extremely slow and comes with a plastic back, it's a shame because the display is nice.
iPhone SE 2020 has a very fast SoC but marred by bad battery life.
Pixel 3a looks ugly.
I personally would pick the Mi Note 10 if the OS was more reliable and its browser not selling data to Chinese servers. Its camera setup is fantastic for the price point.
RC255, 31 May 2020'that's what make iPhones attractive' - yep, half the features for the same price ðŸ‘. Th... moreMore for less with aggresive ads in certain countries and a browser that sells data to Xiaomi's servers. I mean Xiaomi do make nice phones but keep these in mind.
Bogdan, 31 May 2020If I will have an One Plus 7T Pro, I will not sell it even for an iphone 11 Pro Max. Thus be... moreThe only kind of person that would sell a S20, OP8, P40... for a SE2020 (2014) will be a brainless one with 0 IQ or it's not happening as you claim. Anyways, he will be the perfect Apple customer, the majority of them are capable of that, even to grab an Apple pin from the poop to save it.