There is a reason that Samsung have 37 percent of the market. Dominating Apple in the mobile market. The reason inovation or the lack of it by Apple in their phones
Apple just can not compete any more and its about time the sheep that follow them relised
Samsung all the way baby
Anonymous, 10 Sep 2013The only difference is that the fingerprint scanner by Apple is about 100 times better and mor... moreIt should be considering the Motorola Atrix is more than 2 years old. So think about it, the company released the Atrix February 2011 which would have been designed around 2010. And Apple comes up with the same concept 3years later? Common sense would say it should be better.
Jesus you plastic android cheap fans, android still doesent work 100%, and samsung make phones with eye scrolling that is so lame and nobody use it. This phone is pure class and style.
Motorola Razar I already uses 64-bit, 64-bit doesn't increase cpu speed, it allows instructions to extract at large scale and requires huge amount of ram.
U.Beezy, 10 Sep 2013I mean really... Who cares??? EVEN if iphone got a 13mp camera. It doesnt change anything abou... moreLol. I couldn't agree with you more! I use the same argument with Apple fanboys as well!!!
this is all apple can do the same old boring design its a minor update I will never buy another iphone as long as I live I had a iphone 4 back in the days and it sucks sony z1 is the way to go water prove dust prove and 20 mega pixel camera io7 is bare shit
I mean really... Who cares??? EVEN if iphone got a 13mp camera. It doesnt change anything about how basic iphone is. My friends are sitting over here, hooking their iphones up to the other friends laptop... Hoping it doest erase their photos and stuff off... Smh.
Theres nothing to see on the homescreen, no lockscreen widgets.... Just icons that people swipe thru when they get bored. Then you open the app, which of course runs smooth... CUZ THATS ALL THE PHONE DOES!!!
Once android got instagram... It was inevitable
Theres so many more things android does that iphone just doesnt. You cant even say it the other way around without getting slammed
noone will buy this phone its he same as iphone 5 they just added fingerprint scener and nobody will use it!
Plus the Panoramas on the iPhone 6S are captures at 30fps, twice as fast as on the iPhone 5.
you mean 5s editor (: yaay do i get a free phone now ? :p haha
Iphone 5c just made iphone 5 owners looks cheap..and wanting to buy 5s..thats the point.
[deleted post]The only difference is that the fingerprint scanner by Apple is about 100 times better and more advanced that Moto's
otje, 10 Sep 2013they couldnt even compare the new chip to the Iphone 5 but the first Iphone from 2007..serious... moresorry guy . I think you havent read the Iphone 5s features on apple site exactly . they have compared the A7 chip with the A6 . A7 is 2 times faster than A6
Is there fianaly an onboard FM-radio??
thats the only thing missing on all iphone's
This is the beginning of the end of the company! Most innovative company is going down. They can not innovate any more! So sad!
Android already uses 64 bit
In the realm of the ARM chipsets which is the common factor, the entire Android stack, from the near-identical kernel based on Linux, are in fact, 32bit, cross-compiled from usually either a 32bit/64bit host environment, the host environment is usually one of the distributions of Linux. Recommended distribution, by Google, for building and cross-compiling Android is Ubuntu.
The Android run-time library (media, graphics, filesystem, to name but a few) are also 32bit, but as we reach the layer of the dalvikvm, then the number of bits becomes irrelevant as it is at this point, the apks coming from the Google Play Store are native bytecode (A "by-product" of generated Java code compiled into a portable bytecode) which targets the DalvikVM (Virtual Machine) which in turn interprets and translates the bytecode targetting the raw ARM instruction set.
Froyo was the last Android that enabled compilation under a 32bit hosted environment in which it was cross-compiled targetting the ARM chipset.
Gingerbread was the first of "future" Android, back then circa, three years ago, that introduced a requirement to use a 64bit hosted environment in which it was built. There was many hacks to get Gingerbread to be built under 32bit hosted environment.
ICS and JB, and upwards now definitely requires a 64bit environment to speed up compilation and to reduce turn-around time in building.
So to sum up, what you see on the Play Store has no bearing on whether 32bit or 64bit are used and thus irrelevant.
Side note: Typical 16GB RAM/Quad core/64bit Linux distribution, the time it takes to build ICS from scratch, takes 30minutes maximum, had this being a 32bit Linux distribution, it would have taken longer, in fact, may cause a CPU meltdown as there is simply, not enough processing power to churn and crank out cross-compiled code, which is a very demanding and taxing process!
Proof of this.
Pull in any native ARM binary found in /system/bin or /system/xbin, for example, /system/bin/dalvikvm, this is the Dalvik VM binary that is responsible for the upper layers of Java and APKs.
Now, examine the binary by issuing this command: file dalvikvm which gives a summary of the type of file it is, the expected output would be this:
dalvikvm: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
Notice the reference to 32-bit ELF, and is cross-compiled to ARM and is a binary executable.
Right, moving on, let's inspect a native shared library found in /system/lib, for example, /system/lib/libandroid_runtime.so, now issue file libandroid_runtime.so, the expected output would be this:
libandroid_runtime.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
Again, notice, its 32-bit ELF, cross-compiled to ARM and is a shared library.
The key to the host's cross-compilation can be found in the AOSP source, i.e., Gingerbread build originally had a requirement to be built on a 64bit host system, here's the newsgroup linky referring to how to patch the scripts to get it to build on 32bit host which has two patches, found here, for build/core.mk and build/main.mk (combined) on AOSP's Gerrit review.
As a subsequent result, this patch had made its way to ICS's build scripts in which I did have the privilege of compiling ICS on a 32bit platform which took 3 days to build (it was a port of ICS for the Zte Blade). Now, the requirements are ramped up, you do definitely need 64bit host to enable cross-compilation of building AOSP from ICS upwards :)
FVC, 10 Sep 2013i think apple should have put more effort into this iphone 5s . Even the design is the same as... moreI kept getting a notification in my SGS II (eligible for upgrade 04/ 2014) which I ignored as I couldn't find out what it was.
To stop it I accepted it, it turned out to be a software update from ICS to Jelly Bean my 2nd. It was 680 Mb and it took an hour, in 1 hour the 2ND upgrade took my SGS II into another dimension ONE HOUR, and Apple have had a whole year to upgrade the IP5
Much of it was already known yesterday and I said no way as this was to lower expectations as 12Mp and Quad Core were being bandied about.
I really do feel sorry as it now is going to cost $ 709 for the IP5S, the IP5 id now the IP5C and has not changed in price what it would have been except "cheaper" materials
I have a free standing Anti Theft as well as Samsung own TWO.
I accept that in some areas the IP5S better and faster but I am not disadvantaged by this
I now know that I don't have to upgrade this phone in April next year as I have one more Android update to come.
The IP5S is still another Dual Core all I lack is 4G LTE. I can just drop the price to £15 PM on a sim only contract as to upgrade my phone is to compete with Sony, Samsung , LG Nokia as Apple have dropped out of the race.
The Third Dual Core phone the 2ND 8Mp Camera phone
Put another way all I would get is 4G LTE finger print scanner but lose Bluetooth. Please tell me people are going to behave and NOT queue all night
Iphone 5s : 10 images in 1 second on 8 Mpix cam
Xperia z1 : 61 images in 2 second on 20 Mpix cam
64bit processor what for?
Photo editing? Not enough wide screen for detail editing
Games? Maybe, but im not playing games too much.. And i believe we all not playing game everyday either
Productivity? Even single core apps can do sync email, calendar, note etc
Sosial and web browsing? Cmon it is still 4inch. And depends on network
I think their biggest mistake is not make iphone wider.. 4 inch is too small if you want to cramp advance apps